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pphinquiry

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Apr 15, 2023
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PPeH recommends morphine as part of the 5 drug protocol ddmaph. Any thoughts, especially from anyone with medical training on substituting oxycodone with morphine (thinking oxy should be easier to get)

Also any thoughts on skipping the phenobarbital all together and maybe upping the doses on some of the other parts?
 
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pharmacoepia

pharmacoepia

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Apr 9, 2023
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Oxycodone is more potent. If you can afford it, still just use phenobarbital. Up the doses as much as physically possible. If you are sure that PPeH is reliable (I haven't checked, I'm pretty sure a more dedicated member will inform you.) then it would be advisable to cash out on the highest doses possible. If you aren't confident that you want to actually to CTB, then take the minimum or somewhat above the minimum. Store them according to the instructions from the manufacturer (in general for most drugs, always store in cool or room temp places away from humidity. This might differ, so search it up on your favorite search engine.)
 
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Oxycodone never got me like morphine does. Don't know just never really felt a lot from it whereas oral morphine had me nodding and unable to move for hours in a state of utter serenity. I think oxy has a more stimulating feeling compared to other opioids.
 
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Maybe this helps:
 
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pphinquiry

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Apr 15, 2023
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Oxycodone is more potent. If you can afford it, still just use phenobarbital. Up the doses as much as physically possible. If you are sure that PPeH is reliable (I haven't checked, I'm pretty sure a more dedicated member will inform you.) then it would be advisable to cash out on the highest doses possible. If you aren't confident that you want to actually to CTB, then take the minimum or somewhat above the minimum. Store them according to the instructions from the manufacturer (in general for most drugs, always store in cool or room temp places away from humidity. This might differ, so search it up on your favorite search engine.)
Has nothing to do with affording. It's about sourcing
 
pharmacoepia

pharmacoepia

STEM nerd that is pro-CTB. Asmov looks far-out eh?
Apr 9, 2023
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Has nothing to do with affording. It's about sourcing
I have no idea where this user lives, obviously then the pseudoanonymity on this site would be dead, so I have no idea how the dealers price their pharmaceuticals. Some dealers might charge more for more potent substances. Sourcing would still be hard though I guess.

Wouldn't it be more expensive via clearnet/darknet purchase?
 
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jorheslen428

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May 4, 2023
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If you search "ddmaph" you can find other threads where people have considered replacing the morphine with other opioids like fentanyl, heroin, oxy, or even nitazenes.

I would go off the potency (oral potency, which is a lot lower than injected/ smoked) to calculate how much you need, and overshoot a bit just in case. I read that oxy is 1.5 times stronger than morphine, so it would require 10 g instead of 15.

Phenobarbital isn't really needed at all for the protocol, it just speeds up the time to death. Look up DDMA (acamaid, PPH).
 
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