Opinions on minors commiting CTBing?

[NatsukiCookie]

I am curious, how do you feel about teens/minors commiting suicide?

 

[WorthlessTrash]

I don't think they should.

 

[PreCambrianBliss]

Your brain only really crystalizes and matures at like 25. There is still plenty of time for teens to change their mind and philosophy of life, which happens very often. Most adults are very different people than they were as teens, so I believe that there are essentially no circumstances when a minor should ctb.

 

[Lost in a Dream]

I think they should wait until 18 if at all possible, just because they get to have more control over their own lives legally by then. Minors might also be more impulsive than actual adults, so it's a good thing if they wait a while just to see if things do or can improve at all. I do think minors should have access to voluntary euthanasia in countries where it's legal, but getting it should require approval from their doctor and/or legal guardians and parents first.

 

[uniqueusername39]

I am curious, how do you feel about teens/minors commiting suicide?

I would preach that they shouldn't, but I often find myself think that I should've killed myself long ago. I'm an adult now lol. Nothing has changed about my philosophy towards life or what have you.

 

[NatsukiCookie]

I personally don't think they should and agree with waiting till 18 at the very least. I do understand wanting to do so much sooner as I have been there but most of my friends who wanted to ended up not doing so and they live extremely wonderful lives now.

 

[Hirokami]

It ultimately depends on why they want to end their lives. Regardless of the reason, though, I think they should have access to mental healthcare to the fullest extent first, along with other resources that might help. It's just that I might be more understanding if I knew the reason.
There are a lot of minors, for example, who want to kill themselves over a breakup. But then, there are minors who live in an inescapable and literal hell.

 

[nomotels1443]

It ultimately depends on why they want to end their lives. Regardless of the reason, though, I think they should have access to mental healthcare to the fullest extent first, along with other resources that might help. It's just that I might be more understanding if I knew the reason.
There are a lot of minors, for example, who want to kill themselves over a breakup. But then, there are minors who live in an inescapable and literal hell.

True. There was me, spending the last 6 years of my childhood drowning in dysphoria after realizing my parents wouldn't help me. Shit was hell and all I did was spent those years praying that I would die in my sleep. Fast forward to now I still feel the same and I'm gonna die soon. Personally, not killing myself as a kid just delayed the inevitable.

 

[JuliaOnTheNet]

I'm not someone to judge whether someone should (or is worthy of) ctb or not and it's fine if minors do decide to ctb.
Still, Minors should be able to seek help anywhere without having to worry about insurance or anything that could be extended as well :)

 

[Forever Sleep]

It's difficult really because I wanted to CTB as a minor. I was 10 when I first contemplated it. Years 10-18 were the worst of my life (so far.)

I think it can sound so dismissive to say that minors don't know their own minds. Still- I would say that I think we do become more able to cope with things emotionally as we age. Still- that in itself isn't exactly a great selling point! Wait till your older when you'll still have problems- plus CPTSD presumably- but hey- you'll be slightly better equipt to deal with them...

I think there are at least more opportunities to change your life when you are young- for some people anyhow. That I suppose is one positive- but it's going to be SO difficult for the person if they have already lost all hope and will to live.

Overall, I'd say I find it especially sad when minors CTB. That things were already that bad for them. That they had no one to help them and maybe most shocking of all- that no one in their lives apparently noticed how low they were.

I definitely don't like the idea of minors CTB. I don't think it should be allowed via assisted suicide clinics until a person is 18- unless there is chronic illness present- either physical or mental.

Still- on an individual level- I would never think that someone had made the wrong decision- as it were. Young or old and for whatever cause. Not that I'm encouraging suicide but I do understand the desire for it at any age. We're not living their life- we don't know just how bad things are for them and how much they can cope with. It would of course be great if they could get help- that was effective and ideally- it would be good if that option was explored. But it ISN'T always effective. I don't know. It's a very tricky subject because I can see it both ways.

 

[fuzzy-clown]

It would be unfortunate if they CTB for reasons that they could resolve once they become independent adults.

 

[OceanBlue]

First and foremost, I do not support any type of death - best to prevent births.

I agree with the laws in the Netherlands (set to include children under 12 with terminal illness and unbearable pain).

And when the age of consent is reached, any reason should be accepted.
It's ageism to discount teenagers' suffering and if we ban a peaceful option, they will find a brutal way.

 

[noobpro64]

I would say if the person is certain and isn't emotionally driven during CTB it should be tolerated. As a minor you will of course most likely be emotionally driven a lot more often and therefore make decision's that you would, under other circumstances, not make. But as CTB is something you cant do just because you are sad in the moment i think it is justified in a way. I just hope they didn't have a painful leave.

 

[WorthlessCoward]

The world, their parents, they really failed those kids. Not like I care though.

 

[aubrey!]

It's complicated. Some people don't have a reason, a lot of teenagers just face a harsh phase. but having been a teenager, i had a good understanding why and a good amount of self awareness. i think it's always worth chasing recovery before death. if all else fails, and you understand the consequences and understand why and have the self awareness i think they have a point.

 

[IfyouareamanWinston]

I don't believe we should live in a world where so many people want to die. If we just provided people with dignity and service for housing and welfare maybe the numbers would be lower.

I had a bad time as a kid and it was nothing and I mean really not even a drop in the bucket compared to the abuse some kids suffer from their family. How can we force anyone to live in those conditions? If anything minors need more rights and resources.

If we had access to mental health services and actually removed kids from abusive homes then yes I think you should wait and seek help because when you are young there is still a chance for you to change and get to a better place thanks to neuroplasticity.

 

[Death is my goal]

well i wish i died as a minor, so if their reasoning to ctb is legit and not something like "i don't have a gf" then yeah they should

 

[NoLoveNoHope]

If it is a chronic and unbearable condition whether that be PTSD or a physical condition.

In an ideal would children like that would never be born, if it's some dramatic kid BS I think prevention is required. It's still a very tricky subject matter.

 

[charlotte_]

It's a rather tricky subject. It is true that minors aren't mature enough and still have a lot of things to come in life, however suffering is still suffering and could be unbearable to everyone. We can't judge situations that we haven't experienced either. A lot of minors can't have access to the help they need either, so there's a high chance their condition would've been too bad to resolve in adulthood. It's a sad reality, and while I wish that there would be a way to help them, we all know that's highly unlikely to ever be achieved considering how society, the mental health and education systems and parenting are right now

 

[enviro400mmc]

And here we have exhibit A of a forum meant to provide non-judgemental support to suicidal people judging suicidal people...

 

[vaguebluur]

I am curious, how do you feel about teens/minors commiting suicide?

They need support suicide is the last option

 

[hellispink]

I was 11 when I first considered suicide. Our brains not fully developed when we are children which affects the accuracy in taking decisions. But its not about what we want or what we think. It happens and will continue to happen and why? Because of adults and disgusting society. We need to save the children by offering them love support a safe place which most fail to do. This world is cruel to children. Mostly now with all the cyberbullyng even worse than what it was before. This world is cruel, it shouldn't happen but it will continue happening until society is abolished.

 

[KarmicRain]

I think it definitely depends on the situation and the person. some people are able to find things that change their mind: others are just somehow able to exist long enough to distract themself from those thoughts. I do however, think teens should wait a bit longer at least from personal experience: I used to have a fuckton of mood swings back in highschool. It's better now that I'm able to control them, but my overall thoughts haven't actually changed. if anything the longer i live, the more i wish i ctb'd sooner. whenever the thought hits it just becomes obsessive until i can distract myself long enough to stop for a while. But it always comes back.
Maybe you'll be different: if there's something you've ever remotely thought about wanting to do in life, wait til you've at least tried to accomplish that. Find out whether or not that goal or distraction's enough to keep you around.

 

[jruo]

I think a lot of things in life can change from 13-18.

 

[unnormal9]

It is no surprise such new users come to ask these very targeted questions given the rise lately.

 

[Volo vent]

I dont know some people is just born to be miserrable

 

[FuneralCry]

The way that I see it, why is it anything to do with us if people decide to ctb, it's not our existence, the reality is that the right to take control over our inevitable fate is a basic human right as without that existence is no different to slavery, it's inhumane to want to trap people in existence and imprison them against their wishes. The potential for the most extreme suffering will always exist as long as one is trapped in this harmful world which is why to me wishing to cease existing will always feel like the most logical option and even if there wasn't extreme suffering nobody is obligated to continue existing anyway. When to leave this world is a completely personal decision after all that can only be made by the individual.

There is no point to existing, why should anyone have to continue this involuntary experience if they don't wish to, we only exist because some people were selfish enough to unnecessarily force life here, there is no meaning to life other than it being a tragic consequence of evolution and anyway we are all destined to die, it doesn't make much difference if someone dies now or in 50 years at the end of the day other than all future suffering would have been prevented and I personally always see it as being preferable to cease existing as existing here is something completely unappealing and futile, I would rather avoid all future harms and I know that I've existed for far too long.

I'm 22 now and I wish that I left when I was much younger, as the longer spent here the more meaningless, unnecessary suffering experienced all for the sake of it. I admire those with the courage to take control over their inevitable fate, freeing themselves from this burden, to me the thought of not existing forever with all problems solved and everything finally forgotten about is so beautiful but in reality the best outcome is never existing at all as then nobody would have to die. I see nothing more ideal than not existing which is why suicide is self care to me, life itself really is the true problem.

 

[ChildrensITV]

Pointless discussion when we don't even let adults to it. Hell it is hard for us to allow dying 80 year olds to do it. It doesn't matter the country or culture - the most progressive or the most backward - every society feels that you should be forced to live unless that society decides that you shouldn't.

Mankinds biggest fear is death. We see it as a bad thing, even if we have indication that it is a peaceful sleep.

 

[NorthernMonkey]

I think that if it is possible you should at least wait until you have left home and experienced life away from your parents. Reading through threads here, a lot of younger people's problems stem from how they are treated by their families. It's a situation that will change eventually, and the freedom of living alone and being able to do what you want, is one of life's highlights. I'm not saying it doesn't go downhill at some point but at least get to enjoy the good bits first. Of course, life can become unbearable at any age, this is why I say if it is possible.

 

[unnormal9]

The way that I see it, why is it anything to do with us if people decide to ctb, it's not our existence, the reality is that the right to take control over our inevitable fate is a basic human right as without that existence is no different to slavery, it's inhumane to want to trap people in existence and imprison them against their wishes. The potential for the most extreme suffering will always exist as long as one is trapped in this harmful world which is why to me wishing to cease existing will always feel like the most logical option and even if there wasn't extreme suffering nobody is obligated to continue existing anyway. When to leave this world is a completely personal decision after all that can only be made by the individual.

There is no point to existing, why should anyone have to continue this involuntary experience if they don't wish to, we only exist because some people were selfish enough to unnecessarily force life here, there is no meaning to life other than it being a tragic consequence of evolution and anyway we are all destined to die, it doesn't make much difference if someone dies now or in 50 years at the end of the day other than all future suffering would have been prevented and I personally always see it as being preferable to cease existing as existing here is something completely unappealing and futile, I would rather avoid all future harms and I know that I've existed for far too long.

I'm 22 now and I wish that I left when I was much younger, as the longer spent here the more meaningless, unnecessary suffering experienced all for the sake of it. I admire those with the courage to take control over their inevitable fate, freeing themselves from this burden, to me the thought of not existing forever with all problems solved and everything finally forgotten about is so beautiful but in reality the best outcome is never existing at all as then nobody would have to die. I see nothing more ideal than not existing which is why suicide is self care to me, life itself really is the true problem.

And, the pain is only prolonged the longer I remain.