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S like Siren

S like Siren

Enlightened
Apr 29, 2021
1,564
A bottle of N
6.5 gms will kill me? In your opinion? I weigh 64/67 kg
Do you think it's risky? I can't fail,i can't permit to survive
 
lostmylove

lostmylove

Specialist
Apr 1, 2022
304
It will kill you, it's not risky at all. Don't overthink. People only do 2 bottles to speed it up really. If you plan to not be found for 24 hours you'll be fine.
 
S like Siren

S like Siren

Enlightened
Apr 29, 2021
1,564
it's not risky at all. Don't overthink.
Not risky at all?it seems a person could easily ended up in coma,"i'm young and healthy",not too skinny neither
It could also take more of 24 hours for some cases...
I can't help it,my worst nightmare is survive,i have to be sure...
 
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lostmylove

Specialist
Apr 1, 2022
304
Not risky at all?it seems a person could easily ended up in coma,"i'm young and healthy",not too skinny neither
It could also take more of 24 hours for some cases...
I can't help it,my worst nightmare is survive,i have to be sure...
It's still probably x2 the lethal dose that you've got
 
Red Scare

Red Scare

Wizard
Mar 1, 2022
647
It could also take more of 24 hours for some cases...
Damn, that makes me worry even with 2 bottles.

But I have read the threads here and people seem to think that is a rare occurrence, those are the outliers.

Barb addicts have been known to od on as much as 2g.
 
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S like Siren

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Apr 29, 2021
1,564
It's still probably x2 the lethal dose that you've got
I know that with two bottle or at least 1 and a half you can be more sure...i was asking because i could have the possibility to drink one bottle of N...but i read that one bottle is risky and i don't want survive
Damn, that makes me worry even with 2 bottles.

But I have read the threads here and people seem to think that is a rare occurrence, those are the outliers.

Barb addicts have been known to od on as much as 2g.
I don't have addiction to barbs or alcohol...i'm afraid that with my weight i could ended up in coma for weeks and not die...or that it could require more days to die and so i will be find before to die and saved or ended up as a vegetable,i have the feeling one bottle is not enough.
I don't even know if there are people in this site that thought to use one bottle and did it and died.i've just read of people that survived with one bottle and i remember some thread of people that had 2 bottle and that they drunk them and probably now are dead since they never came back on this site.
 
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Ta555

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Aug 31, 2021
1,317
Sorry to come off as a bit snippy but this has been going around again and again and again. You have already decided that one bottle is risky so why are you asking? You say in your posts that you think one bottle will not kill you so how is anyone supposed to change your mind?
This forum is a blessing for all the information and also a curse because people circulate information about extremely rare cases as if it was a common occurrence.
Death taking 24 or more hours is EXTREMELY rare ok? I don't know how anyone is supposed to convince you of that. We don't have access to any other information that you don't have access to.
There's a member here called OldDrummer who has been spreading a lot of questionable information saying shit like you need 72 hours to not be found and that one bottle is only enough if you weigh under 50kg. When you ask him for the source he just laughs at you and says he got it the info from a 'very reliable source' that he's not willing to elaborate on. There's also another member whose name I don't remember that scare mongered about prolonged coma as if it was happening to every other person who drank N.
If this is where you're getting your information from then I'm sorry, we can't help you.
I got pretty pissed with these two members in particular and with rumours and panicked posts in general and searched for it myself. I found a safety data sheet for N which said the minimum lethal dose is 36mg per kg of body weight. That means a 50kg person needs a minimum of 2g to ctb. One bottle contains 6.3g. (I made a post about it called 'N specifications')
Do your own research. No one here can convince you because you've already made some decisions based on fear, hearsay information and speculation. I don't mean to be harsh with you but this sort of thing comes up again and again and again and it feels like SS just becomes a rumour mill.
I know that with two bottle or at least 1 and a half you can be more sure...i was asking because i could have the possibility to drink one bottle of N...but i read that one bottle is risky and i don't want survive

I don't have addiction to barbs or alcohol...i'm afraid that with my weight i could ended up in coma for weeks and not die...or that it could require more days to die and so i will be find before to die and saved or ended up as a vegetable,i have the feeling one bottle is not enough.
I don't even know if there are people in this site that thought to use one bottle and did it and died.i've just read of people that survived with one bottle and i remember some thread of people that had 2 bottle and that they drunk them and probably now are dead since they never came back on this site.
Where? Where did you read people surviving with one bottle? Show me where. I want to see this. There's a member called sunnybird who made a goodbye thread about a month ago and used one bottle. She hasn't been seen since
 
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Cathy Ames

Cathy Ames

Cautionary Tale
Mar 11, 2022
2,109
A bottle of N
6.5 gms will kill me? In your opinion? I weigh 64/67 kg
Do you think it's risky? I can't fail,i can't permit to survive
There is a lethal dose calculator somewhere or other online.
 
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Judy Garland

Judy Garland

HoHum
Mar 23, 2022
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Sorry to come off as a bit snippy but this has been going around again and again and again. You have already decided that one bottle is risky so why are you asking? You say in your posts that you think one bottle will not kill you so how is anyone supposed to change your mind?
This forum is a blessing for all the information and also a curse because people circulate information about extremely rare cases as if it was a common occurrence.
Death taking 24 or more hours is EXTREMELY rare ok? I don't know how anyone is supposed to convince you of that. We don't have access to any other information that you don't have access to.
There's a member here called OldDrummer who has been spreading a lot of questionable information saying shit like you need 72 hours to not be found and that one bottle is only enough if you weigh under 50kg. When you ask him for the source he just laughs at you and says he got it the info from a 'very reliable source' that he's not willing to elaborate on. There's also another member whose name I don't remember that scare mongered about prolonged coma as if it was happening to every other person who drank N.
If this is where you're getting your information from then I'm sorry, we can't help you.
I got pretty pissed with these two members in particular and with rumours and panicked posts in general and searched for it myself. I found a safety data sheet for N which said the minimum lethal dose is 36mg per kg of body weight. That means a 50kg person needs a minimum of 2g to ctb. One bottle contains 6.3g. (I made a post about it called 'N specifications')
Do your own research. No one here can convince you because you've already made some decisions based on fear, hearsay information and speculation. I don't mean to be harsh with you but this sort of thing comes up again and again and again and it feels like SS just becomes a rumour mill.

Where? Where did you read people surviving with one bottle? Show me where. I want to see this. There's a member called sunnybird who made a goodbye thread about a month ago and used one bottle. She hasn't been seen since
It seems some people are doing the same thing about SN and freaking people out.
 
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watchingthewheels

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Jan 23, 2021
1,415
Sorry to come off as a bit snippy but this has been going around again and again and again. You have already decided that one bottle is risky so why are you asking? You say in your posts that you think one bottle will not kill you so how is anyone supposed to change your mind?
Right? And I'm wondering how many of those people who were making multiple fear-mongering threads doubting that N is really as painless as has been said are now starting multiple threads in a panic asking if D has really stopped selling...
 
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Ta555

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Aug 31, 2021
1,317
Right? And I'm wondering how many of those people who were making multiple threads doubting that N is really as painless as has been said are now starting multiple threads in a panic asking if D has really stopped selling...
Yup...I mean it's normal to doubt right? Like for me it's still hard to wrap my head around the fact that 100ml of liquid can kill me. Like dying is as easy as drinking half a glass of substance because I associate death with disease or something violent like hanging etc. But I'm following the science and longstanding sources like PPeH which say that one bottle is good for most people.

It's just hilarious how lately people even doubt two bottles is enough and start asking if they should get three when they're normal weight/height. And when you question where they get their panic info from you never get anywhere.
 
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I want to end it

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Apr 29, 2018
475
Where? Where did you read people surviving with one bottle? Show me where. I want to see this. There's a member called sunnybird who made a goodbye thread about a month ago and used one bottle. She hasn't been seen since
Do you know how heavy that member was?
 
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bluedreamscape

Member
Apr 17, 2021
35
Does a person really need 24 hours to Ctb with only one bottle?
 
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A dream inside a locked room
Sep 6, 2021
673
Does a person really need 24 hours to Ctb with only one bottle?
Very rare. I think someone already answered that in this very thread.

Scary, rare thing happen from most reliable method possible = panic and multiple people scrambling to ask about it = becomes prominent in the mind.
This is psychology 101 stuff. It's an example of a mental shortcut called the availability heuristic.

'The availability heuristic describes our tendency to use information that comes to mind quickly and easily when making decisions about the future.'
 
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S like Siren

Enlightened
Apr 29, 2021
1,564
Sorry to come off as a bit snippy but this has been going around again and again and again. You have already decided that one bottle is risky so why are you asking? You say in your posts that you think one bottle will not kill you so how is anyone supposed to change your mind?
You see...SS for me is the only place and the only family I have, the only contact with the world I have.
I have no one to talk to and when I feel the need to express something, a fear, an emotion or I need advice etc ... this is the only place for me.
You are right,i know this topic has been posted more times before and I often find myself too reading the same threads running around as new members come in and ask for things that have already been discussed.
I felt the need to write my doubt here because i was very nervous and feeling very anxious and sometimes having someone that answer you helps.
This forum is a blessing for all the information and also a curse because people circulate information about extremely rare cases as if it was a common occurrence.
Death taking 24 or more hours is EXTREMELY rare ok? I don't know how anyone is supposed to convince you of that. We don't have access to any other information that you don't have access to
With the "luck" I have
I could certanly be one of these extremely rare cases :/

Also,this is what the forum is for, in addition to discussing the methods,we can find out more about the risks that can happen based on the experiences of others that went throught it, so we are more prepared on what can happen and what can go wrong.Better knew it before and not surviving an attempt,even if these cases are very rare.
I got pretty pissed with these two members in particular and with rumours and panicked posts in general and searched for it myself. I found a safety data sheet for N which said the minimum lethal dose is 36mg per kg of body weight. That means a 50kg person needs a minimum of 2g to ctb. One bottle contains 6.3g. (I made a post about it called 'N specifications')
Thank you for your researches and for this information
No one here can convince you because you've already made some decisions based on fear, hearsay information and speculation.
It is true that no one can convince me that I will die 100% sure with 1 bottle of N and that I have to make the decision myself...but I needed to write down my doubt and read some answers to comfort myself.

I don't mean to be harsh with you but this sort of thing comes up again and again and again and it feels like SS just becomes a rumour mill.
I understand ... it's true, it can be annoying to have to always read and answer the same things but that's also the great and unique thing of this forum, having the opportunity to vent,to post our fears, doubts etc ... even if they are repetitive,it makes us feel less alone and seen,heard.

Where? Where did you read people surviving with one bottle? Show me where. I want to see this. There's a member called sunnybird who made a goodbye thread about a month ago and used one bottle. She hasn't been seen since
This thread in particular made me worry about the effectiveness of Nembutal.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-lethal-is-nembutal.72620/
I'm just too scared to survive because i can't fail again.
There is a lethal dose calculator somewhere or other online.
Thank you for this information
Very rare. I think someone already answered that in this very thread.

Scary, rare thing happen from most reliable method possible = panic and multiple people scrambling to ask about it = becomes prominent in the mind.
This is psychology 101 stuff. It's an example of a mental shortcut called the availability heuristic.

'The availability heuristic describes our tendency to use information that comes to mind quickly and easily when making decisions about the future.'
Very interesting
 
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Lost Magic

Lost Magic

Illuminated
May 5, 2020
3,200
One bottle is enough to kill the average sized person, but since I am on the larger size I am going to drink 2 bottles. But to be honest 1 bottle would have probably done the job too.
 
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S like Siren

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Apr 29, 2021
1,564
One bottle is enough to kill the average sized person, but since I am on the larger size I am going to drink 2 bottles. But to be honest 1 bottle would have probably done the job too.
If you weighed like me and only had one bottle of N ... would you drink it?
 
Lost Magic

Lost Magic

Illuminated
May 5, 2020
3,200
If you weighed like me and only had one bottle of N ... would you drink it?
If one bottle is all I had, of course I would drink it. For me it would be worth the risk, if any. One bottle has 6.3 g of N. That's plenty, in my opinion. I will be drinking two though.
 
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Efilismislife

Efilismislife

Psychopath family tortured me
May 25, 2021
642
So many stories here about every methods being a big failure . While people die from accidentally choking on a drink/snack.
Its really confusing and makes it really hard.

i do understand that a reliable method an prep are needed. But its hard to tell a valid source of information and not anymore.
Sorry to come off as a bit snippy but this has been going around again and again and again. You have already decided that one bottle is risky so why are you asking? You say in your posts that you think one bottle will not kill you so how is anyone supposed to change your mind?
This forum is a blessing for all the information and also a curse because people circulate information about extremely rare cases as if it was a common occurrence.
Death taking 24 or more hours is EXTREMELY rare ok? I don't know how anyone is supposed to convince you of that. We don't have access to any other information that you don't have access to.
There's a member here called OldDrummer who has been spreading a lot of questionable information saying shit like you need 72 hours to not be found and that one bottle is only enough if you weigh under 50kg. When you ask him for the source he just laughs at you and says he got it the info from a 'very reliable source' that he's not willing to elaborate on. There's also another member whose name I don't remember that scare mongered about prolonged coma as if it was happening to every other person who drank N.
If this is where you're getting your information from then I'm sorry, we can't help you.
I got pretty pissed with these two members in particular and with rumours and panicked posts in general and searched for it myself. I found a safety data sheet for N which said the minimum lethal dose is 36mg per kg of body weight. That means a 50kg person needs a minimum of 2g to ctb. One bottle contains 6.3g. (I made a post about it called 'N specifications')
Do your own research. No one here can convince you because you've already made some decisions based on fear, hearsay information and speculation. I don't mean to be harsh with you but this sort of thing comes up again and again and again and it feels like SS just becomes a rumour mill.

Where? Where did you read people surviving with one bottle? Show me where. I want to see this. There's a member called sunnybird who made a goodbye thread about a month ago and used one bottle. She hasn't been seen since
That story is odd. He lives alone. How could people just walk in into his room whenever they want, like hes an adult but cant own a room with a lock and have no privacy? yet he said he lives alone.
This thread in particular made me worry about the effectiveness of Nembutal.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-lethal-is-nembutal.72620/
I'm just too scared to survive because i can't fail again.

Thank you for this information

Very interesting
 
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hankbank3928

hankbank3928

Student
Dec 30, 2021
186
Yea that story looks fake to me.
 
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Ta555

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Aug 31, 2021
1,317
So many stories here about every methods being a big failure . While people die from accidentally choking on a drink/snack.
Its really confusing and makes it really hard.

i do understand that a reliable method an prep are needed. But its hard to tell a valid source of information and not anymore.

That story is odd. He lives alone. How could people just walk in into his room whenever they want, like hes an adult but cant own a room with a lock and have no privacy? yet he said he lives alone.
It's not confusing. It's only this forum that makes it confusing because it constantly talks about failure so it skews people's perspective and makes it seem like almost every ctb is going to fail. People here are obsessed with failure, and in a way that's good because it makes them prepare more thoroughly but at the same time it creates false ideas and views on how likely things are to work. It's like let's say for examples sake a thousand people drink N. Two of those people don't die and go into extended coma or something and 998 pass away with no problem. Then people make twenty threads about these failures and bring them up over and over while no one talks about the successes. This now makes it seem like failure is really likely. It's like @VoidDesirer22 said, it's the availability heuristic that makes that information stick in your mind because everyone is always talking about it. That's it.
You see...SS for me is the only place and the only family I have, the only contact with the world I have.
I have no one to talk to and when I feel the need to express something, a fear, an emotion or I need advice etc ... this is the only place for me.
You are right,i know this topic has been posted more times before and I often find myself too reading the same threads running around as new members come in and ask for things that have already been discussed.
I felt the need to write my doubt here because i was very nervous and feeling very anxious and sometimes having someone that answer you helps.

With the "luck" I have
I could certanly be one of these extremely rare cases :/

Also,this is what the forum is for, in addition to discussing the methods,we can find out more about the risks that can happen based on the experiences of others that went throught it, so we are more prepared on what can happen and what can go wrong.Better knew it before and not surviving an attempt,even if these cases are very rare.

Thank you for your researches and for this information

It is true that no one can convince me that I will die 100% sure with 1 bottle of N and that I have to make the decision myself...but I needed to write down my doubt and read some answers to comfort myself.


I understand ... it's true, it can be annoying to have to always read and answer the same things but that's also the great and unique thing of this forum, having the opportunity to vent,to post our fears, doubts etc ... even if they are repetitive,it makes us feel less alone and seen,heard.


This thread in particular made me worry about the effectiveness of Nembutal.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-lethal-is-nembutal.72620/
I'm just too scared to survive because i can't fail again.

Thank you for this information

Very interesting
That's fine. I understand you want to get your fears and doubts out etc since this is the only place we can really talk about it but you need to really practice your critical thinking skills because no matter how many people on here reassure you one bottle is enough you won't believe it because you're making decisions based on emotions based on scary posts and also I second everything @VoidDesirer22 said about the availability heuristic.
 
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S like Siren

Enlightened
Apr 29, 2021
1,564
So many stories here about every methods being a big failure . While people die from accidentally choking on a drink/snack.
Its really confusing and makes it really hard.
Unfortunately if there is one thing I realized after my suicide attempt ... it is that dying by committing suicide is not as easy as I thought and I read in the suicide news that I read every day.
It is true that many people make it on the first try and honestly
I don't know how they did it so quickly and easily... I feel a lot of envy.
you need to really practice your critical thinking skills because no matter how many people on here reassure you one bottle is enough you won't believe it because you're making decisions based on emotions based on scary posts
Yeah...you are right on this.
Thank you for your advice and your messages:)
 
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