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Mircea

Mircea

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Apr 15, 2019
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You know what else is linked to suicide usually? An unavailable or harmful support network.
People let their loved ones slip through the cracks then blame this site for providing a painless solution to a problem that would be there anyway regardless of the existence of this place.
And sadly some still think it's because we live in a fairytale where government oligarchs care for ordinary people for some magical reason. In reality they're scared that if more people exit, they'll be left without "slaves" to build their mansions or animate the corpse of a world that died years ago. Sucks to tell all those "caring" politicians and CEO's around the world, but tying to keep people alive by force isn't going to give you more or cheaper products, you can stop caring for us and prepare those doomsday bunkers you've been renovating lately.
 
dweams

dweams

i feel tired…maybe I’ll get wings
Feb 26, 2023
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I wish you weren't focussing your case from the US 'freedom of speech' vs UK 'foreign government is trying to silence a U.S-based forum' angle. It feels Trump-ish.
It's not "Trump-ish". It's literally exactly what they're doing. The UK government is basically saying that their law is superior to those of every other nation. I understand that you want to defend your country, but sugarcoating their actions doesn't help anyone.
 
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M19R

M19R

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Aug 12, 2024
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I wish you weren't focussing your case from the US 'freedom of speech' vs UK 'foreign government is trying to silence a U.S-based forum' angle. It feels Trump-ish. I am writing from the UK. But I kind of understand why you might want to do so from the perspective of a more likely positive outcome from a legal perspective.

For me it is a moral argument. It is a case of 'people' in the UK - including the BBC, Ofcom and, sadly, even the Samaritans, as well as the 'general public' and bereaved loved ones, misunderstanding what the suicidal mind is like and what it sometimes needs.

I feel your case would be more convincing, on a human level, if it were more aligned to the argument given by some of your supporters on X (a platform I generally dislike). For example: 'This forum supported me during my darkest time — when no UK mental health service was accessible. It kept me alive. The state of mental health services in the UK is shocking. That is what needs addressing, not this' and: 'I still don't understand how we haven't evolved past hasty generalization. Everyone acts like children, wanting to hate faster than just trying to understand or critically think. There were maybe a few people who promoted suicide and self harm, and they're generalizing us all.'

It is complicated, nuanced, dark, not where 'normal' people go.

The UK is (relatively) a good place. It has got it wrong in this instance in my opinion. I don't want to use a VPN. I have no shame in or fear of what I am saying.

I would like to know who the woman in Merton (London) is who has been arrested 'on suspicion of intentionally doing an act capable of encouraging or assisting the suicide of another' [BBC} is, and who her lawyers are.
Have you even seen the Trump administration? They dont give a single shit about free speech. The idiot had to be told by judges that he couldn't make it illegal to insult him online.
 
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