Discussion Objective Morality Vs Subjective Morality

[Death Diviner]

Where Objective Morality is defined as moral facts that are independent of human opinions, experiences, beliefs and cultural contexts, and Subjective Morality is defined as moral values that are determined by individuals or societies rather than them being universal truths, which view do you take?

 

[Forever Sleep]

There clearly aren't morals in nature. Some animal parents will kill and eat their offspring. Animals will gang rape and murder one another. It seems clear to me- that morals are a human creation. Also- that our own moral codes are very individualistic. Some humans will happily break laws and violate other people's rights- seemingly with little guilt.

The universe- as I see it- is governed by forces- like gravity, natural selection, chemical reactions etc. Those forces don't have feelings. Weather fronts don't care if they will kill things. They just happen- surely? A tornado doesn't think- Hmm- I better try and miss that school...

But then- I tend to doubt there is a God. Or at least- a God with the morals humans have been taught to have- by religion for one- ironically.

 

[Hvergelmir]

It seems clear to me- that morals are a human creation.

While definitely subjective, I refute the idea that is would be strictly humans.
Morals are just what 'feels right' - a way to regulate behavior, and many animals has that. For evolutionary reasons animals tend to not eat members of its own species. I'd argue that the emotional mechanism enforcing that is what we describe as moral.

Animals will gang rape and murder one another.

Just like humans... but usually they don't. It's not pleasant, and it's not a good survival strategy.