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hadenough

Student
Aug 24, 2019
151
I posted about this 5 weeks ago, but a quick recap: mum was elderly and had had a few health problems over the years including heart problems and had a defibrillator fitted, but overall she was fit, strong, and healthy. A few years ago she had a fall that restricted her mobility and she couldn't fully care for herself. She had carers come in in the morning to get her up and make her breakfast, and again at lunchtime. One of my sisters visited 3 or 4 times a week and cooked her dinner and made her lunch (mum didn't like the carers doing this), and after I lost my job a few years before her fall (I was dismissed for gross misconduct so my career is over, no one will employ me with that record) I would cook, clean, make her lunch, and get her into bed in the evening. My sister always complained about what she had to do, but I didn't mind at all – it gave me a purpose in life after losing my job, which just shows you how selfish-thinking I am. On a Saturday I had a hacking cough and knew I was coming down with a cold, so I stayed at home Sunday and Monday and my sister visited her then. On the Tuesday I still wasn't well but mum called me to see if I would visit to get her dinner etc. One of my other sisters said she would do that but she has a family of her own and wouldn't be able to visit until later but mum wanted/needed her dinner early, so I visited. I should have worn a mask and sat in another room from her but I didn't – I'm selfish, thoughtless, and lacking empathy. I knew she had weakened immunity but I still came and made no effort to avoid infecting her.

The following Saturday mum felt ill – she must have caught that cold from me. The following Wednesday morning she spoke to one of my sisters and said that she was having difficulty breathing. When no one could contact her someone came round but she had passed away.

They had to perform a Post Mortem, which was difficult reading – they removed organs like the heart, brain, lungs etc. They ruled that the cause of death was cardiorespiratory failure, bronchopneumonia and ischaemic heart disease, and diabetes. It said that there was copious haemorrhagic oedema fluid, mucopurulent secretions in the airways, and pus in the lungs. My take is that a respiratory condition, caused by pneumonia (pneumonia can develop from a cold in older people), which I infected her with, caused too much of a strain on her heart, resulting in her passing away. I killed my mum. Did I mean to do it? Did I want this to happen? Was that my plan? No, of course not. But was it my fault? Yes, absolutely. If I hadn't have seen her she would still be here today.

I told some of my family this and they rolled off the old clichés: "It wasn't your fault; she could have caught this anywhere." But she didn't, she caught it off me. This is just shielding me from the truth, that I am to blame. I hate lying to myself and always need to be truthful with myself. I was to blame.

Mum had so much to live for, so much still to do. She had children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren. People loved her, unlike me, who has no one. If there is an afterlife she must be cursing me for denying her more experiences in her life. The only person in my life that ever cared for me was mum, she accepted me with all my flaws, and she was the only person I cared for. She stood by me when I lost my job when all my "friends" deserted me. She made me feel that I wasn't the total failure that I truly am.

Why am I writing this? I guess it's just to help me understand. I don't expect people to read it, you all have your own problems, and why should anyone care? No one who knows me anymore cares about me. Am I feeling sorry for myself? Perhaps, I am a selfish person who is even thinking about myself now, as evidenced by this post. Do I want people to comfort me, say it's not my fault? No, because you'd all be wrong. It was my fault, I am to blame, and nothing anyone can say will change my mind. As you can see, I've been here for quite a while; I signed up when I lost my job, but mum said it would finish her off if I committed suicide so I didn't, but in the end I did finish her off with my selfishness and thoughtlessness. How can I live with myself after what I have done?

Now my mum's gone, thanks to me, there's nothing stopping me from CTBing. I have a rope, but I'm a coward. I worry that it would be painful and could be unsuccessful if the rope breaks, the tethering point breaks etc. I have quite a lot of valium – what's the lethal dose, if it is lethal? I've still got some sodium nitrite but it is old and may have gone off. But what I'd really like is to blow my head off with a shotgun, but they're difficult to come by living in the UK. I've searched the dark web but can only find hand guns, and they may not do the job properly. I'll continue my search.
 
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socksnsandles

Experienced
Oct 7, 2025
260
i dont know you or your mom, but i would imagine the last thing your mom wants after you supposedly killed her (which i dont think you did) is kill yourself. live life and go make experiences for her. you are her offspring, she created you so that when she dies, there is someone to live on in her legacy. carry it. dont kill yourself (unless you really want to, then who could blame you). try to live life for her man.
 
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wishingiwasok

Member
Dec 18, 2024
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I like to believe that in heaven we find a peace so healing that we have no anger or resentment for any of the things that happen in the past. That there would be no need for blame or cursing you or anyone else.
 
SummerTrip

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aiygiwgwyaiydiwdwy
Feb 23, 2026
43
Oh man, I know your pain. Truly. I'm not open to talking about the circumstances that led to the death of my mom, but just like you I know I directly am at fault. Neither of us knew what was gonna happen as a result of our actions but here we are.
People don't understand this kind of guilt. Not knowing isn't an excuse for us. Only someone like us knows how it feels. I wish I could give you a physical hug right now, sit with a drink and just talk about our moms and our guilt.
One thing I can say for certain is that if afterlife does exist, I ensure you, your mom doesn't hate you or curse you. She's still herself, as human as she was. Loving moms don't really get that mad or upset with their children, they just pretend to make us learn. A promise from a stranger on the internet may mean nothing, but I promise you she doesn't hate you.
 
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Karrikin

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Nov 3, 2024
73
I remember seeing your other post, I could not come up with something to say since that avenue of "it wasn't your fault" you've accepted as being complete falsehood and anything I could think of you might've seen as empty platitudes. This is one of the more agonizing stories I've seen, I'm still very naive myself so the only thing I can really say is why do you think she would want to curse you for that? She accepted you --flaws and all, as you've mentioned. You know you did not mean to, do you still believe that she'd hold you in disrepute?

A bit of a side tangent story but, I will say that my grandmother was someone who I recall as being my only close family member I had years back. Someone who would be the only one who would hold me when I came back crying from school because of some stupid bullying situation. She would tell me all these things about why I even had a place in this world. why I mattered, etc. Then the day came when she died, I was much older by then but I could not bring myself to cry no matter how hard I tried, that guilt still eats at me. Now, this is a very different situation compared to yours but I guess from the perspective of "what would she tell me?" I find some consolidation, almost as if she is still here. What would they do with that guilt of mine? If I do remember her for being this kind-hearted person I would just be lying to myself in saying she would not like me any longer as a grandson, even if it was what I would like to believe. The truth is, in that compassion that I remember I cannot devise any other possibility than that response from her. As someone else has already mentioned, what would she want you to do with that conviction of yours? To kill yourself while carrying that is something I doubt she would ever want.

I might not be saying the right thing entirely, this is more so feeling like I need to say something. Even if it's just elementary soothsaying just please consider those things, I do apologize for a lack of further understanding of your situation beyond that --perhaps I could be able to say something more meaningful. Know she would still love you, please. I hope these words have meant something to you --I do realize dissuasion is not what you want to hear, but this would feel like a failure on my part to help you consider other avenues, ones which the tunnel vision of guilt might be blocking. It is challenging to really come up with a way to approach such a heavy situation but I hope my trying has yielded something.
 
fadedghost

fadedghost

Found SaSu after reading BBC & watching YouTube
Dec 10, 2025
323
I posted about this 5 weeks ago, but a quick recap: mum was elderly and had had a few health problems over the years including heart problems and had a defibrillator fitted, but overall she was fit, strong, and healthy. A few years ago she had a fall that restricted her mobility and she couldn't fully care for herself. She had carers come in in the morning to get her up and make her breakfast, and again at lunchtime. One of my sisters visited 3 or 4 times a week and cooked her dinner and made her lunch (mum didn't like the carers doing this), and after I lost my job a few years before her fall (I was dismissed for gross misconduct so my career is over, no one will employ me with that record) I would cook, clean, make her lunch, and get her into bed in the evening. My sister always complained about what she had to do, but I didn't mind at all – it gave me a purpose in life after losing my job, which just shows you how selfish-thinking I am. On a Saturday I had a hacking cough and knew I was coming down with a cold, so I stayed at home Sunday and Monday and my sister visited her then. On the Tuesday I still wasn't well but mum called me to see if I would visit to get her dinner etc. One of my other sisters said she would do that but she has a family of her own and wouldn't be able to visit until later but mum wanted/needed her dinner early, so I visited. I should have worn a mask and sat in another room from her but I didn't – I'm selfish, thoughtless, and lacking empathy. I knew she had weakened immunity but I still came and made no effort to avoid infecting her.

The following Saturday mum felt ill – she must have caught that cold from me. The following Wednesday morning she spoke to one of my sisters and said that she was having difficulty breathing. When no one could contact her someone came round but she had passed away.

They had to perform a Post Mortem, which was difficult reading – they removed organs like the heart, brain, lungs etc. They ruled that the cause of death was cardiorespiratory failure, bronchopneumonia and ischaemic heart disease, and diabetes. It said that there was copious haemorrhagic oedema fluid, mucopurulent secretions in the airways, and pus in the lungs. My take is that a respiratory condition, caused by pneumonia (pneumonia can develop from a cold in older people), which I infected her with, caused too much of a strain on her heart, resulting in her passing away. I killed my mum. Did I mean to do it? Did I want this to happen? Was that my plan? No, of course not. But was it my fault? Yes, absolutely. If I hadn't have seen her she would still be here today.

I told some of my family this and they rolled off the old clichés: "It wasn't your fault; she could have caught this anywhere." But she didn't, she caught it off me. This is just shielding me from the truth, that I am to blame. I hate lying to myself and always need to be truthful with myself. I was to blame.

Mum had so much to live for, so much still to do. She had children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren. People loved her, unlike me, who has no one. If there is an afterlife she must be cursing me for denying her more experiences in her life. The only person in my life that ever cared for me was mum, she accepted me with all my flaws, and she was the only person I cared for. She stood by me when I lost my job when all my "friends" deserted me. She made me feel that I wasn't the total failure that I truly am.

Why am I writing this? I guess it's just to help me understand. I don't expect people to read it, you all have your own problems, and why should anyone care? No one who knows me anymore cares about me. Am I feeling sorry for myself? Perhaps, I am a selfish person who is even thinking about myself now, as evidenced by this post. Do I want people to comfort me, say it's not my fault? No, because you'd all be wrong. It was my fault, I am to blame, and nothing anyone can say will change my mind. As you can see, I've been here for quite a while; I signed up when I lost my job, but mum said it would finish her off if I committed suicide so I didn't, but in the end I did finish her off with my selfishness and thoughtlessness. How can I live with myself after what I have done?

Now my mum's gone, thanks to me, there's nothing stopping me from CTBing. I have a rope, but I'm a coward. I worry that it would be painful and could be unsuccessful if the rope breaks, the tethering point breaks etc. I have quite a lot of valium – what's the lethal dose, if it is lethal? I've still got some sodium nitrite but it is old and may have gone off. But what I'd really like is to blow my head off with a shotgun, but they're difficult to come by living in the UK. I've searched the dark web but can only find hand guns, and they may not do the job properly. I'll continue my search.

people can get colds from a can that they pick up from their cupboard that still had germs from the supermarket. the germs may be from you, but they may be from someone else. also, keep in mind, she was super old if she had great grandchildren. when people get up to that age, things happen. your mom lived a long long long life and got to meet her great grandchildren. she would not have wanted you to feel bad about this.
 
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hadenough

Student
Aug 24, 2019
151
Thank you all for your kind words. I am in tears as I read them. I knew I could come here and be listened to, and not patronised. You are the best friends I have. and I find it so sad that all you good, kind people are here thinking of CTB when this world needs more people like you.

socksnsandles - I'm sure she would want me to go on, she didn't want me to leave before, but I feel I cannot live without her.
wishingiwasok - my mum probably wouldn't hold a grudge against me, she always saw good in me even when there was none.
SummerTrip - thank you for understanding and I am so sorry that you are going through the same. I wish we could have a drink and talk about our mums and our guilt, but judging by your spelling (mom vs mum) I guess you are in the US whereas I am in the UK. I truly wish you well.
Karrikin - thank you for remembering me, that means so much to me. I am so sorry to hear about your grandmother, she sounded just like my mum, kind and caring. You have been helpful to me and I appreciate it, although I still feel the same.
fadedghost - I know she could have picked up germs from anywhere but I believe it was from me, and you are right, she would not want me to feel bad.

The thing is, I remember when I was about 14, about 40 odd years ago, hearing about a famous person who had died. As I walked to school I remember thinking "Why couldn't it have been me? He bought joy to others life whereas I didn't." So I've been struggling with suicidal thought for a long time. I don't really want to go on without my mum, especially given how I am to blame for her passing.
 

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