Non binary issues?

[PressEnterToExit]

I'd like to talk with people with non binary issues or someone who isn't happy cause of not being desired by straight men.

 

[the-exit-plan]

nvm ^

am also nb. what's up?

 

[darksideofthebright]

Wait, what? You are gay and you want to be desired by straight guys??

Non-binary doesn't always mean they are gay/lesbian.

 

[PressEnterToExit]

Well I may didn't explain myself good but I believe that if there's someone with my problem he'll catch it. Thanks anyway

 

[grungeCat]

I'd like to talk with people with non binary issues or someone who isn't happy cause of not being desired by straight men.

I don't want to be rude but could you explain further what does it mean that you are a non-binary? Does it mean that you are not comfortable being both a man and a woman? I'm straight male but people always said I was quite femine.

 

[Merith]

I don't want to be rude but could you explain further what does it mean that you are a non-binary? Does it mean that you are not comfortable being both a man and a woman? I'm straight male but people always said I was quite femine.

It means that you are neither male nor female.
Not always related with physical appearances or demeanor, and not related to sexual orientation at all. But many people do opt for an androgynous appearance, especially if being perceived as their sexual assignment at birth causes a form of distress or discomfort.

 

[hoping to lose hope]

I'd like to talk with people with non binary issues or someone who isn't happy cause of not being desired by straight men.

Can you elaborate on what this means?
If you are biologically a man I think you need to use radical acceptance and realize straight men wont have romantic or sexual interest if what you are saying means what I think it does.

It means that you are neither male nor female.

No one in the history of existence has ever fit snuggly into the gender stereotypes of what a man or woman should be.
Why put yourself in a box for being yourself? why label yourself this way.

 

[Neowise]

I'd consider myself non-binary. My body is female but my mind and my character have always been more male or rather neutral. I even thought of myself as "genderless" before I knew non-binary was a thing.
If you like to talk to someone I'll be the one listening :)

It's true though that the entire gender thing is a construct of society and solely based on stereotypes, so I don't stress myself for not fitting in the frame. Biologically men and women are exactly the same except for a few different hormone concentrations. That's literally it.

I'm not really desired by straight men either. Sometimes it's hard to feel like leftovers but sometimes I enjoy being alone, I believe relationships bring more bad then good anyways.

 

[Nymph]

Hey I'm non binary and I've had a lot of crushes on guys but it's never both sided because I look androgynous and not very feminine. But I'm also of course not desired by gay men because I'm not "that" masculine plus I don't have the male genitalia.
I have body dysphoria and really want to get a mastectomy but I don't have enough money and my parents don't support m. I feel disgusted everytime I have to see my body and have to wear a binder (for the whole day (11+ hours) that is uncomfortable

 

[hoping to lose hope]

It's true though that the entire gender thing is a construct of society and solely based on stereotypes,

made my mind mush tingle- so like do you think men and woman have no specific traits at all and only gain them as they learn about stereotypes and try to fit in?
So for example that boys would never be rough and tumble or more likely to be than girls if they were raised in a gender flipped society?
If you do then can you explain why gender specific traits are observed the world over in males and females even in uncontacted tribes?
Can you explain how there is no biological basis and it is all social construct when you account for the influence hormones have?

 

[Neowise]

@hoping to lose hope
I think many traits were taught us by society, for example things like "boys don't cry" and "girls should look pretty". But not everything is taught. Men are more rough and tumble as you said because of the higher testosterone levels, this also causes men to appear more confident, mentally strong and gives men more muscles and taller bodies. I never said there are no biological differences, you got me wrong. I said the only difference are the hormones since they are the ones that influence your embryonic development (with the genitalia!) and behaviour. Those are the differences we perceive and I think that's why many cultures observe those traits the same.
But traits are just traits, humans have always made so much drama about men and women where there should be no drama. If a man likes the colour pink he is gay, if a woman hates makeup she is a tomboy. That's what I meant with "genders are based on stereotypes". We have come to a point where a person has to be ashamed for not fitting in the frame which is just sad.

 

[hoping to lose hope]

@hoping to lose hope
I think many traits were taught us by society, for example things like "boys don't cry" and "girls should look pretty". But not everything is taught. Men are more rough and tumble as you said because of the higher testosterone levels, this also causes men to appear more confident, mentally strong and gives men more muscles and taller bodies. I never said there are no biological differences, you got me wrong. I said the only difference are the hormones since they are the ones that influence your embryonic development (with the genitalia!) and behaviour. Those are the differences we perceive and I think that's why many cultures observe those traits the same.
But traits are just traits, humans have always made so much drama about men and women where there should be no drama. If a man likes the colour pink he is gay, if a woman hates makeup she is a tomboy. That's what I meant with "genders are based on stereotypes". We have come to a point where a person has to be ashamed for not fitting in the frame which is just sad.

How about instead of adding all these labels to ourselves that supposedly tell others who we are we just bee ourselves and not care what about stereotypes.
I would count as non binary but I do not box myslef in as that to me seems so silly and ********

 

[Neowise]

How about instead of adding all these labels to ourselves that supposedly tell others who we are we just bee ourselves and not care what about stereotypes.

Couldn't agree more :)

 

[hoping to lose hope]

Couldn't agree more :)

All these labels and identity politics in general of any kinds seem to be is tribalism in the digital age.
It is an unconscious response to the threat of nihilism that following reason with pure secularist philosophy concludes with,
god did not die these people are using his carcass as a church of their own to find a sense of belonging and meaning.

 

[liluglibih]

I know you said that you are NB, but are you a male or female? I'm not really getting the context

 

[hoping to lose hope]

I know you said that you are NB, but are you a male or female? I'm not really getting the context

well you would never actually get the answer using their new terminology which is half the problem.

 

[Deleted member 23586]

I'm an enby if you wanna talk hun . Just DM me ok? I hope you have a good one

 

[hoping to lose hope]

I'm an enby if you wanna talk hun ☺. Just DM me ok? I hope you have a good one ☺

Gets asked by a confused user in a sincere way if they are male or female and responds with
>i'm an enby
Why not just say your biological sex? good job on confusing everyone.

Imagine not just being yourself and instead applying all these labels to yourself which aid in fitting into a political or social movememnt.

 

[PressEnterToExit]

Hi I'm still looking for people to talk about this topic....... ANYONE ????????

 

[PressEnterToExit]

Let's talk about this again! After many experiences in my life, I've arrived to the conclusion that most men are bisexual and they like both fem and masc guys, but they say don't like fem because they associate it with negative things that has nothing to do with feminity. I consider myself a feminine boy deep down but I act very masculine for reasons I won't explain,cultural reasons, I won't call myself non binary I am a fem nature boy and that's all. I have found out that bisexual men are not interested in relationships with men in general( most of the times). I don't feel attracted to gays, I believe deep down most gays are fem despite how they look. The same way there are so many straight men very masculine who actually feel like a woman. Leaving behind all of this, the problem is when it comes to love, not sex because that's easy, but love seems impossible. I don't wanna live a life without love and passion and everything I deserve. I'm tired of people telling I must date other gay guys because I have a fetish with bisexual men. I don't have a fucking fetish, it's my nature. People don't understand this.

I know you said that you are NB, but are you a male or female? I'm not really getting the context

Male

Hey I'm non binary and I've had a lot of crushes on guys but it's never both sided because I look androgynous and not very feminine. But I'm also of course not desired by gay men because I'm not "that" masculine plus I don't have the male genitalia.
I have body dysphoria and really want to get a mastectomy but I don't have enough money and my parents don't support m. I feel disgusted everytime I have to see my body and have to wear a binder (for the whole day (11+ hours) that is uncomfortable

I don't think you'll feel better just for changing your body so you can "fit" in society. This problem will never end and will cause you more trouble even. But if you do really believe that surgery will make you feel good in the long run let's go for it!