No one said SN is painless

[blueclover_.]

Seriously, no one ever said that. If you want a 100% painless method then try N/Nitrogen/Partial/ etc. I'm sure most people can handle some discomfort in the stomach, anxiety-induced nausea, and painless tachycardia. If you have 0 tolerance for pain then you probably aren't ready to ctb. SN is rated 7/10 for peacefulness in the PPeH, so it is obviously not as painless as Nembutal, duh. If you don't have the money or patience for Nembutal/Nitrogen, SN is your best bet. I'm wondering where some of you guys get the idea that SN is supposed to be just as painless as N?

 

[wereqryan]

N is of course the best when it comes to reliability and peacefulness, but the things that puts SN over the line are availability, accessibility and low cost. SN is far easier to obtain and far cheaper than N.

 

[Darkover]

i just hope SN does it job has some have reported it failing, it's got to be better than drowning or hanging ones self, drinking SN is alot easier

 

[Disco Biscuit]

I remember listening to an Exit podcast some time ago where they interviewed people who witnessed their loved ones dying from SN, in person. They all said that their loved ones experienced a peaceful death and one man even said that he would be using SN after seeing what a painless death it was. .

This is what convinced me that SN isn't a bad way to go. Not sure when I'm going to do it but it brings me a lot of comfort to know I have a peaceful way out any time I like.

 

[blueclover_.]

i just hope SN does it job has some have reported it failing, it's got to be better than drowning or hanging ones self, drinking SN is alot easier

Most people who survived SN reported that they were saved/didn't drink enough SN. A guy drank only 2g to test it and almost died at the hospital. I read somewhere a person drank 25g and survived without any medical help, just woke up feeling dizzy. It depends on your metabolism, but yeah most people just feel pukey, pass out, and die.

I remember listening to an Exit podcast some time ago where they interviewed people who witnessed their loved ones dying from SN, in person. They all said that their loved ones experienced a peaceful death and one man even said that he would be using SN after seeing how peaceful it was.

This is what convinced me that SN isn't a bad way to go. Not sure when I'm going to do it but it brings me a lot of comfort to know I have a peaceful way out any time I like.

Yeah, we all wish we could get access to Nembutal, but SN is the second best bet if you're poor and unmotivated like me. I can never bring myself to jump off a bridge, travel abroad to get N or complicated things like that, so this is my preferred method as well.

 

[Someone123]

Seriously, no one ever said that. If you want a 100% painless method then try N/Nitrogen/Partial/ etc. I'm sure most people can handle some discomfort in the stomach, anxiety-induced nausea, and painless tachycardia. If you have 0 tolerance for pain then you probably aren't ready to ctb. SN is rated 7/10 for peacefulness in the PPeH, so it is obviously not as painless as Nembutal, duh. If you don't have the money or patience for Nembutal/Nitrogen, SN is your best bet. I'm wondering where some of you guys get the idea that SN is supposed to be just as painless as N?

I think it was Stan's guide that talked about six cases of SN that were monitored that appeared to have very little distress, and there are other cases that are posted here that seem similar to this, but quite a few cases posted seemed to have a lot of distress even though they did ctb, and many other cases posted had quite a lot of distress and failed to ctb. There seem to be a whole spectrum of responses based on how all the variables come together for an individual person. It appears that sticking as close as possible to Stan's Guide helps improve chances but is no guarantee of a certain outcome.

 

[Ch92921]

Dont understand why people chose this methode.

 

[blueclover_.]

I think it was Stan's guide that talked about six cases of SN that were monitored that appeared to have very little distress, and there are other cases that are posted here that seem similar to this, but quite a few cases posted seemed to have a lot of distress even though they did ctb, and many other cases posted had quite a lot of distress and failed to ctb. There seem to be a whole spectrum of responses based on how all the variables come together for an individual person. It appears that sticking as close as possible to Stan's Guide helps improve chances but is no guarantee of a certain outcome.

Did they not read the PPeH? It's rated 7/10 of course it's not as peaceful as the N. They're too scared of some puking, headache, and painless tachychardia? A normal migraine is worse than that. Well, are most people just scared for no reason? Seems like they're not ready to ctb.

 

[Someone123]

Dont understand why people chose this methode.

For people who get this to work the best it can it seems like about the most peaceful way that most people can access, but there are so many variables and it often does not go well or work at all.

 

[blueclover_.]

Dont understand why people chose this methode.

Because many of us don't want any legal trouble regarding N and many more of us don't have the money or patience for N. Also, SN won't leave any permanent damage to your body so i'd rather drink the stuff than forced to jump off a bridge and possibly end up brain dead.

 

[Someone123]

Did they not read the PPeH? It's rated 7/10 of course it's not as peaceful as the N. They're too scared of some puking,headache, and painless tachychardia? A normal migraine is worse than that. Well, are most people just scared shitless?

To me the biggest fear is for it to not work and to end up in a hospital, which won't help anyone's life, the hospital situation is typically set up to exploit you for money and won't help most people- and can lead to job loss and all kinds of other problems. So many people have posted on here that they are going to ctb by this method and it seems like the majority post within a week or so that it didn't work, usually due to vomiting or to being scared and calling an ambulance- to sit there feeling sicker and sicker for 20 minutes and not to call for help is something a lot of people can't do- it goes past the amount of pain they can tolerate. Some people are lucky and pass out in five minutes or so and seem to ctb- experiences vary widely.

 

[Nolen]

and it often does not go well or work at all.

Sorry but that's just spreading misinformation at this point and far from the documented reality.

 

[Someone123]

Because many of us don't want any legal trouble regarding N and many more of us don't have the money or patience for N. Also, SN won't leave any permanent damage to your body so i'd rather drink the stuff than forced to jump off a bridge and possibly end up brain dead.

A 200 foot high bridge is pretty reliable, but those are few and far between- the golden gate bridge at 210 feet seeems interesting until you know how heavily patrolled it is so that single people are swarmed by police and it's almost impossible to do there- I know they mean well by doing this but some people do just need relief from their pain.

 

[blueclover_.]

To me the biggest fear is for it to not work and to end up in a hospital, which won't help anyone's life, the hospital situation is typically set up to exploit you for money and won't help most people- and can lead to job loss and all kinds of other problems. So many people have posted on here that they are going to ctb by this method and it seems like the majority post within a week or so that it didn't work, usually due to vomiting or to being scared and calling an ambulance- to sit there feeling sicker and sicker for 20 minutes and not to call for help is something a lot of people can't do- it goes past the amount of pain they can tolerate. Some people are lucky and pass out in five minutes or so and seem to ctb- experiences vary widely.

Then make sure you don't get saved. If you vomit, drink a second glass. Lack of preparation is entirely one's fault. Ask yourself: do you really want to die? If it's a yes then you better make a second glass, go somewhere isolated, take antiemetics, etc. If there's any slight possibility of people interrupting you, then leave. Go to a hotel or a quiet forest. Ask yourself: Do you really want to die? Then fucking prepare a second glass.

 

[Someone123]

Sorry but that's just spreading misinformation at this point and far from the documented reality.

If you search on this site for posts on SN just in the past month or so you will see a lot of posts of people saying they are about to ctb (SN) and within a week or so they are posting that it did not work- either due to vomiting or due to getting scared and calling an ambulance- these posts are all over this site. And sometimes it does seem to work. It seems like going as close as possible to Stans Guide helps but is no guarantee.

 

[blueclover_.]

A 200 foot high bridge is pretty reliable, but those are few and far between- the golden gate bridge at 210 feet seeems interesting until you know how heavily patrolled it is so that single people are swarmed by police and it's almost impossible to do there- I know they mean well by doing this but some people do just need relief from their pain.

Yeah, jumping has a very high risk of being saved and becoming a vegetable. SN only need methanyl blue as the antidote and you're good to go. Most people who whine about SN being scary are just anxious for no reason. Or maybe they have some anxiety problem already and blame it on SN.

 

[Someone123]

Then make sure you don't get saved. If you vomit, drink a second glass. Lack of preparation is entirely one's fault. Ask yourself: do you really want to die? If it's a yes then you better make a second glass, go somewhere isolated, take antiemetics, etc. If there's any slight possibility of people interrupting you, then leave. Go to a hotel or a quiet forest. Ask yourself: Do you really want to die? Then fucking prepare a second glass.

I agree that a second glass is a good idea but some people find that once their mouth and throat are filled with vomit that it's impossible for them to get anything else more down, even after rinsing with water- I'm not trying to be negative about this, I'm just trying to face what the pitfalls are to lessen the risk if I use this method, which is one of the two methods I am seriously considering.

 

[blueclover_.]

If you search on this site for posts on SN just in the past month or so you will see a lot of posts of people saying they are about to ctb (SN) and within a week or so they are posting that it did not work- either due to vomiting or due to getting scared and calling an ambulance- these posts are all over this site. And sometimes it does seem to work. It seems like going as close as possible to Stans Guide helps but is no guarantee.

Because the dead can't post. That's why you take antiemetics so you don't vomit the stuff and save yourself. If you vomit then fucking drink a second glass. Is it that hard to understand, people? Do you really want to die? It's not that hard. Drink a second glass.

I agree that a second glass is a good idea but some people find that once their mouth and throat are filled with vomit that it's impossible for them to get anything else more down, even after rinsing with water- I'm not trying to be negative about this, I'm just trying to face what the pitfalls are to lessen the risk if I use this method, which is one of the two methods I am seriously considering.

Well, well. Seems like anxiety is the key problem to one's failure here. I think you're not ready to ctb if your biggest concern is the taste. Take benzos. When you pass out SN will kill you while you're unconscious.

Seriously, i'd rather drink some yucky-yucky SN than to end up brain dead or without a limb after jumping off a bridge.

 

[supermario]

The problem I see with drinking a second glass is this: If your body already rejected the 1st glass very quickly, the chances you'll vomit out the 2nd glass in no time is just as high, if not higher. That's why getting the right antiemetics to maximize your ability to keep SN down is crucial IMO. It's not about how many glasses you have prepared.

 

[blueclover_.]

The problem I see with drinking a second glass is this: If your body already rejected the 1st glass very quickly, the chances you'll vomit out the 2nd glass in no time is just as high, if not higher. That's why getting the right antiemetics to maximize your ability to keep SN down is crucial IMO. It's not about how many glasses you have prepared.

That's why you take antiemetics, antacid, benzos, propanolol, and other stuff. Follow Stan's guide.

If you search on this site for posts on SN just in the past month or so you will see a lot of posts of people saying they are about to ctb (SN) and within a week or so they are posting that it did not work- either due to vomiting or due to getting scared and calling an ambulance- these posts are all over this site. And sometimes it does seem to work. It seems like going as close as possible to Stans Guide helps but is no guarantee.

You seem to be getting most of your information from this forum. Read the resources section/suicide wiki, you'll find a list of the people who died vs the people who survived SN. There are a lot more people who died after drinking the lethal amount than the people who survived mostly by interruption or self-help calls.

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

everyone seems to think its painless..

 

[Someone123]

everyone seems to think its painless..

If it goes well it can seem that it is low in pain, based on what I have read, but there are a lot of posts on this site showing that it wasn't painless in a lot of failed attempts, so results do vary. Stans Guide, on this site in the resources area, gives a lot of tips on this method which may help. Awesome screen name by the way.

 

[blueclover_.]

everyone seems to think its painless..

People need to realize SN is not Nembutal.

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

People need to realize SN is not Nembutal.

word.