• New TOR Mirror: suicidffbey666ur5gspccbcw2zc7yoat34wbybqa3b
    oei6bysflbvqd.onion

  • Hey Guest,

    If you want to donate, we have a thread with updated donation options here at this link: About Donations

AnnonyBox

AnnonyBox

Specialist
Apr 11, 2018
335
I'm an existential nihilist, I don't see any inherent value or meaning in life, and despite what others think, any created meaning is just an illusion, a facade so that people can feel good about themselves. I see no value or redeeming qualities in the human race, given the propensity of people to act in a cruel manner towards the less fortunate, greedily towards wealth, and egotistically towards their peers. I must wonder how many people here share my views?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Deleted member 4288, Carma, Boonks and 3 others
Sonnenblume

Sonnenblume

Sunflower Panda
Apr 6, 2018
586
You sound more pessimistic than nihilistic. A nihilist wouldn't have a negative view of humans. There is no "cruelty" according to nihilists.
 
  • Like
Reactions: siray, G_G_G, traveller and 3 others
Fylobatica

Fylobatica

Inactive
Apr 1, 2018
365
Nihilist here as well. The concept of purpose, quite eerily, doesn't have any inherent or absolute meaning. It's all about how you jump from one task to another hoping to enjoy it
 
  • Like
Reactions: siray, suffering and AnnonyBox
thatguyakira123

thatguyakira123

Experienced
Apr 10, 2018
217
Oh i agree, I think the human race should be nuked leaving animals to roam the earth.
 
  • Like
Reactions: snowman626 and uselessanon42
Dead Girl Don't Care

Dead Girl Don't Care

Trying but still Dying
Mar 26, 2018
42
You sound more pessimistic than nihilistic. A nihilist wouldn't have a negative view of humans. There is no "cruelty" according to nihilists.

Yes, along with acknowledging that nothing matters at all we can conclude that there is no morality or at least no absolute Right nor absolute Wrong.

That said humans are garbage and the world--no matter how absurd or meaningless it is in the end--would benefit greatly--for the moment--from our withdrawal. OP might be sympathetic to antinatalism--though the philosophy does argue the Good and the Bad, whereas I firmly believe its all a construct veiled over an overtly absurd everything.
 
  • Like
Reactions: snowman626 and Regisphilbin_savant
Sonnenblume

Sonnenblume

Sunflower Panda
Apr 6, 2018
586
Yes, along with acknowledging that nothing matters at all we can conclude that there is no morality or at least no absolute Right nor absolute Wrong.

That said humans are garbage and the world--no matter how absurd or meaningless it is in the end--would benefit greatly--for the moment--from our withdrawal. OP might be sympathetic to antinatalism--though the philosophy does argue the Good and the Bad, whereas I firmly believe its all a construct veiled over an overtly absurd everything.

That is not consistent with no value. I am not a nihilist, btw. There can be no "absurd" if nihilism were accurate, absurdity is a value judgement.
 
  • Like
Reactions: traveller
Dead Girl Don't Care

Dead Girl Don't Care

Trying but still Dying
Mar 26, 2018
42
That is not consistent with no value. I am not a nihilist, btw. There can be no "absurd" if nihilism were accurate, absurdity is a value judgement.


You are correct, and while I claim to be a nihilist, I am not so dedicated to the philosophy that my bias doesn't come out, in fact I'm sure I act contrary to the tenants of nihilism on a near daily basis.

Like I alluded to earlier, you can't be both a complete nihilist and a complete antinatalist, but I am enough of a mix of the two, or maybe I'm an absurdist with a penchant for suicide. I am me, whatever fucked up amalgamation that turns out to be.
 
  • Like
Reactions: siray, G_G_G and Sonnenblume
Sonnenblume

Sonnenblume

Sunflower Panda
Apr 6, 2018
586
You are correct, and while I claim to be a nihilist, I am not so dedicated to the philosophy that my bias doesn't come out, in fact I'm sure I act contrary to the tenants of nihilism on a near daily basis.

Like I alluded to earlier, you can't be both a complete nihilist and a complete antinatalist, but I am enough of a mix of the two, or maybe I'm an absurdist with a penchant for suicide. I am me, whatever fucked up amalgamation that turns out to be.

Nihilism makes no logical sense to me. A kid being beaten to death is different than a kid eating a burger at McDonald's. One is in a positive state and one a very negative state. I'd identify as antinatalist except most of em are nutjobs. So, instead, I just say I'm against all breeding.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Void115
M

MAIO

Elementalist
Apr 8, 2018
841
Nihilism makes no logical sense to me. A kid being beaten to death is different than a kid eating a burger at McDonald's. One is in a positive state and one a very negative state. I'd identify as antinatalist except most of em are nutjobs. So, instead, I just say I'm against all breeding.
Free will clearly does not exist/ If consciousness itself is an illusion, it's hard to argue against nihilism.
 
Sonnenblume

Sonnenblume

Sunflower Panda
Apr 6, 2018
586
Free will clearly does not exist/ If consciousness itself is an illusion, it's hard to argue against nihilism.
Correct, free will does not exist. Nihilism has nothing to do with free will, they are not mutually exclusive. That we don't have free will is irrelevant to the fact that sentient beings experience positive and negative states.
 
Fylobatica

Fylobatica

Inactive
Apr 1, 2018
365
A kid being beaten to death is different than a kid eating a burger at McDonald's.

Of course, but this isn't what nihilism is about. Being a nihilist does not equal being a violent person -- and it has nothing to do with somebody's lifestyle.
 
Sonnenblume

Sonnenblume

Sunflower Panda
Apr 6, 2018
586
Of course, but this isn't what nihilism is about. Being a nihilist does not equal being a violent person -- and it has nothing to do with somebody's lifestyle.

That wasn't my point at all. My point is different mental states have different value, some are positive and some are negative. Lack of free will does not erase these differences.
 
Fylobatica

Fylobatica

Inactive
Apr 1, 2018
365
Yep. That's because our brain is hard-wired for survival (or at least the search for a more comfortable mental state, which is kind of the same thing). Sometimes this search contemplates self-destructive behaviors.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Sonnenblume
M

millefeui

Enlightened
Mar 31, 2018
1,035
I seem to have become some sort of "soft" misanthrope with time (and I only realized after people pointed it out), but I am not nihilist. There is value in life, just not in mine. Who am I to decide whether or not other people's lives have value or not?
 
M

millefeui

Enlightened
Mar 31, 2018
1,035
It's not about "our" lives, rather the concept of existence itself.
Doesn't make any difference to me. I will rephrase it if makes it better for you: Who I am to decide whether or not the concept of life is meaningful? I am only one random useless person in a sea of far, far too many people. My opinion is just an opinion.
 
Fylobatica

Fylobatica

Inactive
Apr 1, 2018
365
Doesn't make any difference to me.

There's a lot of difference between enjoying your life and finding something that looks motivating to you, and the actual existence of absolute meaning.

Meaning itself, as previously stated, is a fallacious concept.
 
CoolGuy9

CoolGuy9

Mage
Mar 5, 2019
524
I'm an existential nihilist, I don't see any inherent value or meaning in life, and despite what others think, any created meaning is just an illusion, a facade so that people can feel good about themselves. I see no value or redeeming qualities in the human race, given the propensity of people to act in a cruel manner towards the less fortunate, greedily towards wealth, and egotistically towards their peers. I must wonder how many people here share my views?
Saying that any created meaning is just an illusion and a facade so people can feel good about themselves is in my opinion kind of a bad way to put it. If someone finds some personal meaning in live then to them that something has inherit value and they should keep doing it. At that point it doesn't matter if live doesn't have any inherit meaning, because why would it? If I can be happy and make the world a better place then nihilism isn't a problem.

I would also say that humans do have redeeming qualities. Sure, everyone has done something evil, but everyone has done something good, and I would say that it gives atleast a bit of value to the human race.
 
  • Like
Reactions: uiop

Similar threads

sserafim
Replies
25
Views
492
Offtopic
leavingthesoultrap
leavingthesoultrap
lovedread
Replies
0
Views
106
Offtopic
lovedread
lovedread
Pluto
Replies
3
Views
107
Politics & Philosophy
WhatDoesTheFoxSay?
WhatDoesTheFoxSay?