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Seeking_Peace

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New research shows nearly 70% of veterinarians have lost a colleague or peer to suicide and about six in 10 have sought professional help for their mental health.



Wonder how many used veterinary Nembutal.
I believe physicians and cops have the highest rate of suicide amongst professions. I agree, having knowledge, access, to N and other deadly drugs has a huge part to play in the suicides.
I'm more curious if they drank or injected it. They could probably set the IV themselves.
 
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what a peculiar metric they've built... it's hard to compare with other professions or even say if it's high or low.
 
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Someone123

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New research shows nearly 70% of veterinarians have lost a colleague or peer to suicide and about six in 10 have sought professional help for their mental health.



Wonder how many used veterinary Nembutal.
I think it's tough for them because they typically care a lot about animals and have to pout a lot of animals down, sometimes animals who could live for a lot longer.
 
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Hercules

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Wonder how many used veterinary Nembutal


In this study here, only 25 percent of the vets who committed suicide used Nembutal. It doesn't say what method the other 75 percent used.

"Her study reviewed death records for 202 veterinary professionals whose manner of death was characterized as suicide or undetermined intent from 2003 to 2014. Of the veterinarians who died by suicide, 25 percent used pentobarbital. In 72 percent of the veterinarians who died from pentobarbital poisoning, the death-related injury occurred at home."
 
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In this study here, only 25 percent of the vets who committed suicide used Nembutal. It doesn't say what method the other 75 percent used.

"Her study reviewed death records for 202 veterinary professionals whose manner of death was characterized as suicide or undetermined intent from 2003 to 2014. Of the veterinarians who died by suicide, 25 percent used pentobarbital. In 72 percent of the veterinarians who died from pentobarbital poisoning, the death-related injury occurred at home."
That one looks more interesting.

Method preference is something so strong and I've seen it documented in some studies. Even if some have what some people would consider the perfect method, they may prefer to use another.
 
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hockeymum9999

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I am a veterinarian and although I have not been in clinical practice for several years, I can tell you first hand the enormous amount of stress and compassion fatigue I faced. Vets do have one of the highest suicide rates. Although I won't be using veterinary nembutal because I no longer have access, I can see why that might be the drug of choice.
 
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I am a veterinarian and although I have not been in clinical practice for several years, I can tell you first hand the enormous amount of stress and compassion fatigue I faced. Vets do have one of the highest suicide rates. Although I won't be using veterinary nembutal because I no longer have access, I can see why that might be the drug of choice.
How come you don't have access to it?
 
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FuneralCry

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It does sound like such a tiring and stressful job being a vet, and to me it is not surprising that people decide to ctb if they have the option of N. We live in a world where there is so much suffering after all. I envy those who peacefully pass away, to me N sounds like the best way to die.
 
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Alex6216

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In this study here, only 25 percent of the vets who committed suicide used Nembutal. It doesn't say what method the other 75 percent used.

"Her study reviewed death records for 202 veterinary professionals whose manner of death was characterized as suicide or undetermined intent from 2003 to 2014. Of the veterinarians who died by suicide, 25 percent used pentobarbital. In 72 percent of the veterinarians who died from pentobarbital poisoning, the death-related injury occurred at home."
N isn't the only drug used to euthanise animals, they probably used the other types of poison which they have access to.
 
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lifehalffull

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The first suicide in my graduating class that I knew of was the son of a veterinarian. His father, the vet, committed suicide exactly a week later. They had an uncommon last name, and when I searched it I found that it seemed to be overrepresented in suicides in the region where they were from and had family. Even found an obit for suicide that mentioned melancholia all the way back in the 1800s. It made me wonder if the veterinary profession, aside from being perhaps uniquely stressful, somehow selects for people who are already predisposed to suicide.
 
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Alex6216

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Apr 19, 2022
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I am a veterinarian and although I have not been in clinical practice for several years, I can tell you first hand the enormous amount of stress and compassion fatigue I faced. Vets do have one of the highest suicide rates. Although I won't be using veterinary nembutal because I no longer have access, I can see why that might be the drug of choice.
This alongside access to drugs that can easily kill a person is why suicide rates amongst vets are high. I don't even understand the point of being a vet, they earn less money than a doctor and it's harder too. I do wonder why suicide amongst pharmacists and doctors aren't ass high since they also should be able to have access to drugs which can kill if taken at a high dose.
 
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sadboyhours:(

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This alongside access to drugs that can easily kill a person is why suicide rates amongst vets are high. I don't even understand the point of being a vet, they earn less money than a doctor and it's harder too. I do wonder why suicide amongst pharmacists and doctors aren't ass high since they also should be able to have access to drugs which can kill if taken at a high dose.
I remember reading ages ago that doctors have the highest rates of suicide out of any profession, don't quote me on it I could be wrong though lmao. Many of them actually commit suicide at an old age though as they're scared of seeing their body degrade like they've seen with patients- would prefer a more clean death I suppose
 
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Julgran

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The fact that veterinarians commit suicide at such a high rate tells me, firstly, that their work is more stressful that one may believe at first glance. Secondly, it also gives me the impression that people are actually just looking for an exit out of this existence. I mean, is almost everyone secretly suicidal in this world..? In other words, Is the only barrier to suicide that one may not have any access to a means of committing suicide? It's just a thought that crossed my mind.
 
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The fact that veterinarians commit suicide at such a high rate tells me, firstly, that their work is more stressful that one may believe at first glance. Secondly, it also gives me the impression that people are actually just looking for an exit out of this existence. I mean, is almost everyone secretly suicidal in this world..? In other words, Is the only barrier to suicide that one may not have any access to a means of committing suicide? It's just a thought that crossed my mind.
Probably yes. That's why high profile individuals who seem to have almost everything at best while they're still on top of the world but commit suicide.
 
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Ligottian

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I read an online story a few years ago about the high suicide rate of vets. It highlighted this one individual. He was an outstanding young doctor with a tremendous love of animals. He would sometimes weep at home about having to put his patients down. He was engaged to his partner. There was speculation that his high student loan debt could have played a role.
 
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endofafoxtwo

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May 1, 2023
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The first suicide in my graduating class that I knew of was the son of a veterinarian. His father, the vet, committed suicide exactly a week later. They had an uncommon last name, and when I searched it I found that it seemed to be overrepresented in suicides in the region where they were from and had family. Even found an obit for suicide that mentioned melancholia all the way back in the 1800s. It made me wonder if the veterinary profession, aside from being perhaps uniquely stressful, somehow selects for people who are already predisposed to suicide.
My theory is that the type of person who would want to be a vet would be the type of person who would hate the state of the modern world. So like, correlation but not causal.
This alongside access to drugs that can easily kill a person is why suicide rates amongst vets are high. I don't even understand the point of being a vet, they earn less money than a doctor and it's harder too. I do wonder why suicide amongst pharmacists and doctors aren't ass high since they also should be able to have access to drugs which can kill if taken at a high dose.
Nobody I have ever met went i to vet med for money. Getting into school for it is almost impossible and as you said its not a lucrative career. They do it because they want to help and comfort animals.
 
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in some nations, euthanasia drugs for animals are closely monitored and even rationed to vets. they cant just stockpile it. there were even a few caught selling the shots for highs via homeservice
 
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I am a veterinarian and although I have not been in clinical practice for several years, I can tell you first hand the enormous amount of stress and compassion fatigue I faced. Vets do have one of the highest suicide rates. Although I won't be using veterinary nembutal because I no longer have access, I can see why that might be the drug of choice.
Why no access to Nembutal?
 
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hockeymum9999

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Since last posting, I have gone back into clinical practice. It has been a steep learning curve after 11 years away and my anxiety is really bad. I work long hours, get paid shit all and take crap from unhappy clients that don't give a shit about anything but themselves. Luckily, the majority of my clients are wonderful. That being said, it has definitely taken its toll on my mental health, hence why I am back posting.

I have limited access to controlled drugs as they are in the main treatment area and are closely monitored. Every drop gets recorded, including pentobarbital (N).
 
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Unattainable666

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I wonder why so many vets are ctb. I can see doctors closing shop early but why vets?
 
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hockeymum9999

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Compassion fatigue
Financial constraints
Nasty clients
Burnout
 
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tora

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Jun 11, 2023
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that doesn't surprise me at all; my sister is a vet and she has a lot of really bad days where she has to put animals down and give bad news to their owners and deal with really shitty clients. they get paid a ton of money but I personally could never deal with how much stress that job has
 
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Thalassa

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Since last posting, I have gone back into clinical practice. It has been a steep learning curve after 11 years away and my anxiety is really bad. I work long hours, get paid shit all and take crap from unhappy clients that don't give a shit about anything but themselves. Luckily, the majority of my clients are wonderful. That being said, it has definitely taken its toll on my mental health, hence why I am back posting.

I have limited access to controlled drugs as they are in the main treatment area and are closely monitored. Every drop gets recorded, including pentobarbital (N).
You are very much needed due to the current shortage of vets. I hope you will take care of your mental health through regular appointments with a good therapist, and if needed, a good psychiatrist for meds - assuming that care is available to you. *hugs*

Edit: I just reread your post and the "why I am back posting" part. If being a vet is making you feel suicidal, perhaps it is not for you and you should explore other job options? And if you feel that being a vet is really your only option right now that will pay the bills, then at the very least, you definitely should be seeing a *good* psychiatrist to find the right anti-depressant prescription for your physiology.
 
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damn if only someone pushed me into becoming a vet and i didn't end up a useless hikikomori
 
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Lot of people want to do it, but lack of good method
 
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