Venting New Moon: Victim Porn

[GideonVandaleur]

So when I think of the Twilight series of books, I think cultural genocide. I think human minds going to waste being rotted out from the inside by lame filth. I think really really normal people are the creepiest fuckers of all. Y'know, I mean just look at the shit they're into; And I don't want to get into a whole battle of the sexes thing here, but I think a critical number of women are dangerously retarded. Obviously, it's unsettling to think sisters, wives, mothers have rocks in there head and are full of shit, but let's not be afraid. Let's try to embrace the truth and see if can make us stronger.

I wouldn't call myself a feminist because I think, coming from a man, it sounds pussy whipped; But I would prefer it if women were educated, were paid equal rates of pay, and didn't read magazines that make me laugh at them and say, "You're a woman therefore you are an idiot!" Women's magazines make douchebaggey porn look like Shakespeare. I'm not saying men are any better, I mean listen to me, I'm a fucking asshole! Plus, I'm an idiot! I let pop culture hurt my feelings; But then again, why shouldn't I? It turns people into fuckwits.

When I see a woman on a bus reading a romance novel or a women's magazine I think, "Get your own life you parasite!" I think I'm on pretty safe ground here, women hate men, men hate women. Well, okay except for the ones who've been sucked into the idea of romance. Oh give her flowers, tell you what, tell her she's not a fucking princess. You're not a princess princess no flowers for you. I don't really hate women, I just think they're mostly completely full of shit; And they know it! But they think we don't know it; How full of shit is that? Women! We can see your magazines! We know you're idiots! How stupid do you think we are? Jesus Christ!

A lot of these high functioning idiots are gonna have children and these children are gonna grow up and they're gonna say to themselves, "I know women are fools! Because I've met my mother, all she could do was make sandwiches and talk shit!" I know I'm horrible and I'm a bastard but just let me get it off my chest okay? Because for the last, I don't know, a week; I haven't been able to look away from the entertainment train wreck that is the Twilight series. And it has fed into every prejudice I have about women.

Hey I could be wrong, our pop culture worship could have anything to do with being a victim, a martyr, a loser, a doormat, an idiot, a fuckwit might be good for us. But I'm going to freak out and go out on a limb and say, "No! Probably not! No! No it isn't! It's shit." I'm serious man, I wanted to take a break from reading about all the heavy shit that's going on in the world and I stumbled across this Twilight phenomenon. I mean it's hard to avoid anyway. Well after a few hours of this, my imaginary girlfriend came home and I said, "Okay babe, not you, alright? Not you, but I hate women. Alright, I'm um." And she said, "I told you not to look, but you did anyway. Didn't you? You know cultural genocide makes you angry. You know that when you're exposed to the fantasy life of people who, if they aren't empty inside, should be. You know it upsets you, but look on the bright side. You now have undeniable proof a critical number of people are so emotionally retarded that it's impossible they're children won't be crippled in the head in some way."

We're quickly getting to the point where large chunks of the human race will be too dumb to live, overpopulation problem solved.

 

[GentleJerk]

It's a fascinating turn of events, when people who are devoid of life, find it entertaining to feed on the sexually repressed antics of fictional vampires. Love, death, and sex come together yet again in a horribly written way, and an entire generation of teenage girls and creepy men in their late 30's find a valid reason to lock themselves in the bedroom and swoon for hours. The household chores of the future are in danger of being shirked, as skintight jeans are ripped in the name of fashion.

I have felt the clammy wet willy of cultural genocide. I've watched Bold and the Beautiful, Neighbours, and Days of Our Lives. You're saying what a lot of people here are probably thinking but don't have the indifference to speak out loud, as they hold on to some elusive hope that their internet chivalry will become a calling card. And as someone who is a bit slow, I both love and kind of hate you a little bit for it. It's like a loving-hateful hatelove. A big juicy love patty sandwiched between two sesame seed hate buns.

The flavour of love is there, and it's made with love, but there's an aftertaste of hate. It's okay though because I inevitably always end up eating my own words, and I taste the hate too, and keep tasting it long after the love is gone. For some reason I still never learn, and maybe I get that from my mother.

My mother also sacrificed her livelihood for me, and nourished me from her very body and soul. All she ever asks for in return is love and respect, and I'm such a shit cunt I can barely withstand her tomfoolery sometimes. Those rocks in her head might actually have a lot to teach me, the most basic of things, but it's like I'm too miserably smart to get it. Maybe that's why I'm a bit slow.

 

[odradek]

I can't deny there's something here in the sense of what humans generally choose as distraction but it is cluttered up with exaggeration, logical fallacies, and misogyny. When you pit "Us" ie all men as yourself seeing a woman on the bus against "Them" ie all women as someone reading a magazine on the bus, that is a lot dude. There is something wrong with that framing that you're missing.

I don't really hate women, I just think they're mostly completely full of shit; And they know it! But they think we don't know it; How full of shit is that? Women! We can see your magazines! We know you're idiots! How stupid do you think we are? Jesus Christ!

I can't tell how serious you're actually being tbh, like if this is somewhat a troll. There's a lot going on here but I would need a moving truck to unpack it all. I'd advise against seeking out anymore YA Book series or movies for your own sake though.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

When I see a woman on a bus reading a romance novel or a women's magazine I think, "Get your own life you parasite!"

Do you have the same reaction to people reading other kinds of fantasy novels? Or watching/reading anime? Or people watching porn? Isn't it all just escapism?

 

[GentleJerk]

I probably wouldn't place much emphasis on what the OP says, or try to stretch the imagination too far to make sense of it. You can question his thinking, but in his own words, the OP say's he's a horrible bastard, an asshole, plus an idiot and I'm inclined to believe him when he says this. He wanted to let this off his chest and I'm sure it was cathartic when he did.

I may not agree with some of what he says but I appreciated reading it nonetheless, and I do like his style of writing.

There's different levels to this. I saw "That's Life!" and "Take a Break" womens magazines, with the coverlines "Incest Mom Shock: Sex with my son sets me on fire" and "Why I want my daughter to be a hooker like me". I also used to listen to my ex tell me stories all the time about how her mother would completely ignore everything and read these crappy romance novels all day, refusing to even respond when she asked where her schoolbag was. I can't help but form a low opinion about these things.

 

[GideonVandaleur]

Do you have the same reaction to people reading other kinds of fantasy novels? Or watching/reading anime? Or people watching porn? Isn't it all just escapism?

It might all be escapism but there's tasteful entertainment that stimulates one to think outside their own foxhole and glean some useful perspective that might turn them into a better person and then there's objectively hot garbage that kills valuable cells of brain turning the reader in a moron of the dangerous variety.

I may not agree with some of what he says but I appreciated reading it nonetheless, and I do like his style of writing.

Much obliged, your style of writing is also impeccable friend.

I can't tell how serious you're actually being tbh, like if this is somewhat a troll. There's a lot going on here but I would need a moving truck to unpack it all. I'd advise against seeking out anymore YA Book series or movies for your own sake though.

I am mostly joke ranting but I'm also trying to make some kind of a point.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

t might all be escapism but there's tasteful entertainment that stimulates one to think outside their own foxhole and glean some useful perspective that might turn them into a better person and then there's objectively hot garbage that kills valuable cells of brain turning the reader in a moron of the dangerous variety.

There's a lot of hot garbage media being consumed by millions everyday, some of it actually dangerous/violent, but you write a multi-paragraph post on a suicide website about how stupid you think women/teen girls are for liking romance novels and magazines aimed at them?

The alternate title to this post should just be "I dislike women and traditionally feminine interests: a rant"

I'm just picturing some guy on a bus, seething as he stares at a women reading Cosmopolitan or whatever. lol

 

[GideonVandaleur]

There's a lot of hot garbage media being consumed by millions everyday, some of it actually dangerous/violent, but you write a multi-paragraph post on a suicide website about how stupid you think women/teen girls are for liking romance novels and magazines aimed at them?

The alternate title to this post should just be "I dislike women and traditionally feminine interests: a rant"

I'm just picturing some guy on a bus, seething as he stares at a women reading Cosmopolitan or whatever. lol

I dislike the culture that turns both men and women in idiots. Unhinged rant yes, but I don't think I'm wrong.

 

[Lost in a Dream]

I totally agree that Twilight is ridiculous nonsense, whether you're talking about the books or the movies, but I will say this: watching that Bella chick sip on blood through a straw and say, "Mmm, that's good" after smoking a blunt and getting stoned was pretty hilarious.

I'm fairly sure I wheezed so hard I almost died from laughter. Oh man, if only it would have happened.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I dislike the culture that turns both men and women in idiots. Unhinged rant yes, but I don't think I'm wrong.

It's weird how you chose to focus on girls and women. I don't see how Twilight is that much different from any poorly written self-insert type fantasy story aimed at boys, where the main character miraculously saves the day and gets the girl.

 

[GideonVandaleur]

It's weird how you chose to focus on girls and women. I don't see how Twilight is that much different from any poorly written self-insert type fantasy story aimed at boys, where the main character miraculously saves the day and gets the girl.

Nothing weird about my focus considering the particular material I'm reviewing is aimed toward a female audience. If it was aimed at a male audience I'd tear that to shreds too. What's weird is your one sided focused interpretation of my post.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Nothing weird about my focus considering the particular material I'm reviewing is aimed toward a female audience. If it was aimed at a male audience I'd tear that to shreds too. What's weird is your one sided focused interpretation of my post.

I'm honestly not even sure what your post was trying to say. Women and girls are "retarded" "fuckwits" for liking romance and fantasizing about getting flowers from a love interest?

 

[GideonVandaleur]

I'm honestly not even sure what your post was trying to say. Women and girls are "retarded" "fuckwits" for liking romance and fantasizing about getting flowers from a love interest?

Allow me to succinctly clear that up for you. The main thrust of my argument is that you are what you consume. Regardless of whether you're a man or woman. If you consume garbage content then your brain will be filled with unrealistic expectations and delusions. A good portion of the reason why divorce rates and breakups are so high is because women and by extension men have fairytale concepts about relationships in their heads based on romantic fiction and magazines that claim that there are hundreds of ways to please your man when there are only a simple handful in reality. Enjoying fiction is fine, but letting that bleed into your approach to reality is disaster territory. I was approaching the subject in an over the top inflammatory way on purpose for theatrics because I'm clearly fucked in the head. Make sense yet?

 

[MellowAvenue]

I mean… I just hate it because it's poorly written drivel and I fail to understand why it got popular, but you do you man.

 

[Angst Filled Fuck Up]

"My favorite part is when Edward takes Bella up into the trees" - quote from my gf.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Allow me to succinctly clear that up for you. The main thrust of my argument is that you are what you consume. Regardless of whether you're a man or woman. If you consume garbage content then your brain will be filled with unrealistic expectations and delusions. A good portion of the reason why divorce rates and breakups are so high is because women and by extension men have fairytale concepts about relationships in their heads based on romantic fiction and magazines that claim that there are hundreds of ways to please your man when there are only a simple handful in reality. Enjoying fiction is fine, but letting that bleed into your approach to reality is disaster territory. I was approaching the subject in an over the top inflammatory way on purpose for theatrics because I'm clearly fucked in the head. Make sense yet?

Most of those lists in women's mags are just shit like "slip a cute note in with his lunch" and "try using both hands when giving a bj" Hardly the downfall of human relationships.

 

[GideonVandaleur]

Most of those lists in women's mags are just shit like "slip a cute note in with his lunch" and "try using both hands when giving a bj" Hardly the downfall of human relationships.

Yeah but who can't work that shit out all on their own? And why does it have to be repeated in every edition. I think they've beaten the topic to death don't you? And anyway the time they waste reading that trash could be spent reading something of higher quality and of more use.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

"My favorite part is when Edward takes Bella up into the trees" - quote from my gf.

I've only seen the first movie, but I agree with your girlfriend. She rides on his back around the forest and it's very funny.

 

[Chinaski]

Yeah but who can't work that shit out all on their own? And why does it have to be repeated in every edition. I think they've beaten the topic to death don't you? And anyway the time they waste reading that trash could be spent reading something of higher quality and of more use.

Well yeah, but this isn't unique to relatively inoffensive lifestyle magazines, in fact it also applies to every single post on this website.

 

[GideonVandaleur]

Well yeah, but this isn't unique to relatively inoffensive lifestyle magazines, in fact it also applies to every single post on this website.

Are you kidding? This site is a suicidology gold mine of data! Are you really comparing an entire field of study with lifestyle magazine drivel? Seriously? Also, it's about balance. My gripe is about people who exclusively read nothing but lifestyle magazine quality drivel whilst avoiding reading anything of substance. The idea is to keep the drivel to substance ratio low on the drivel side. Now I'm a card carrying member of embittered asshole but I don't hold a candle to your legendary level. Well done, color me impressed.

 

[Angst Filled Fuck Up]

As much as I dislike Twilight, it's hardly worse than porn or video games. Meaningless crap is an important part of the human experience. Probably.

 

[GideonVandaleur]

As much as I dislike Twilight, it's hardly worse than porn or video games. Meaningless crap is an important part of the human experience. Probably.

Like everything else, there's quality porn and trash porn. There's quality video games and trash video games. Objectively speaking. One has to sift through to find gems.

 

[hungry_ghost]

There's a lot of hot garbage media being consumed by millions everyday, some of it actually dangerous/violent, but you write a multi-paragraph post on a suicide website about how stupid you think women/teen girls are for liking romance novels and magazines aimed at them?

The alternate title to this post should just be "I dislike women and traditionally feminine interests: a rant"

I'm just picturing some guy on a bus, seething as he stares at a women reading Cosmopolitan or whatever. lol

Right? Ever notice it's always "in vogue" to shit on whatever women and girls happen to be interested in, as though men don't consume a vast amount of vapid content themselves.

 

[GideonVandaleur]

Right? Ever notice it's always "in vogue" to shit on whatever women and girls happen to be interested in, as though men don't consume a vast amount of vapid content themselves.

Clearly you missed the bit where I said I don't think men are any better in my post and you choose to cherry pick to twist what I said to fit your one sided narrative. You're not helping.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Clearly you missed the bit where I said I don't think men are any better in my post and you choose to cherry pick to twist what I said to fit your one sided narrative. You're not helping.

99% of your post was just shitting all over women, no one has to cherry pick.

 

[GideonVandaleur]

99% of your post was just shitting all over women, no one has to cherry pick.

Yes duh! It's written from a perspective of a man. Women are a great example but my point wasn't exclusive to women and applies to everyone regardless of sex. I wasn't being unfair. Stop over focusing on the example and try to see the bigger picture.

 

[Chinaski]

Yes duh! It's written from a perspective of a man. Women are a great example but my point wasn't exclusive to women and applies to everyone regardless of sex. I wasn't being unfair. Stop over focusing on the example and try to see the bigger picture.

I'm not sure stating "a critical number of women are dangerously retarded" and then telling people who rightly find this to be off-colour that they are nit-picking over detail and disregarding a wider argument is a great look, the problem here is definitely not that your post has been misunderstood.

 

[Al Cappella]

This site is a suicidology gold mine of data! Are you really comparing an entire field of study with lifestyle magazine drivel?

If you're saying this site, by virtue of gathering suicidal people, contributes to suicidology—sure. If you're suggesting that this site is a resource in terms of suicidology, then hardly. There is nothing remotely scientific about this site, and everything written here should be viewed with a healthy amount of scepticism…

 

[GideonVandaleur]

I'm not sure stating "a critical number of women are dangerously retarded" and then telling people who rightly find this to be off-colour that they are nit-picking over detail and disregarding a wider argument is a great look, the problem here is definitely not that your post has been misunderstood.

It was implied that a critical number of men are also clearly dangerously retarded based upon the state of the world. Are you happy now? If you people weren't so damn busy having a knee jerk reaction and hyper focusing on and being offended by a specific detail of the post long enough to read it carefully enough to understand the main point which I've already clarified several times now.....what was that about people not misunderstanding again? Because clearly it's being misunderstood or else no one would be offended right now. It's a joke rant people, it's kinda my thing, you don't have to read it if you don't want to.

If you're saying this site, by virtue of gathering suicidal people, contributes to suicidology—sure. If you're suggesting that this site is a resource in terms of suicidology, then hardly. There is nothing remotely scientific about this site, and everything written here should be viewed with a healthy amount of scepticism…

The kind of data present on this site is the type that can't be gathered under laboratory conditions because mentally ill people don't usually discuss this with their mental health specialists for fear of being committed. So it's still a gold mine of the representative reality be it scientific or not.

 

[_Seeking]

OP: Women are dangerously retarded for reading Twilight!

Also OP: I spent a week reading Twilight!