Never existing at all is the best possible thing.

[FuneralCry]

I find it depressing how people continue to bring humans into this world, how new life is born every single day, where people will endure lives filled with suffering and misery all for the sake of it. There is never a need for life to be a thing in the first place, all of our problems are caused by the fact that we exist, an existence that is completely unnecessary and serves no purpose and has no benefit. I believe that it's always better to never exist at all, because why exist and suffer just to die eventually anyway. Non existence is ideal, free from all cruelty and misery.

And yet people are deluded as to see it as being a positive thing to bring people here and this just leads to a cycle of endless suffering, as so many people ctb, people are being born who will eventually leave this world by ctb, with so many using less than ideal methods like hanging and jumping and dying horrible deaths. By never bringing someone into this world it means sparing them from a life where they can end up in the worst pain possible. And births are celebrated and death is seen as upsetting and tragic. Only a birth brings suffering unlike death which is the end of all pain. I don't get how people can see the good in life, how they see life as being good enough to bring someone here. If we were all never born we would never have to suffer. I hate enduring existence and I know that I never should have been brought into this world in the first place.

 

[Hollowman]

It boggles what's left of my mind when I see pregnant women and people with babies/young children. How can they not see that the future's not looking to bright. So selfish and delusional they are.

 

[Hiraeth Grimoire]

Agree fully, and well put. Respect fellow sufferer.

 

[Obliviate]

It hurts because i've always wanted to be a mom and now I can't imagine bringing innocent souls into this fucked up world to have them suffer

 

[Rogue Proxy]

It hurts because i've always wanted to be a mom and now I can't imagine bringing innocent souls into this fucked up world to have them suffer

Why not adopt or foster a child? Or support children through other ways like mentoring, volunteering, or donating (items, money, and/or property)?

 

[Obliviate]

Why not adopt or foster a child? Or support children through other ways like mentoring, volunteering, or donating (items, money, and/or property)?

Well I have two cats that are the world to me. I also donate when I can. And I plan on CTBing soon soo......adoption is not really in the question

 

[Rogue Proxy]

Well I have two cats that are the world to me. I also donate when I can. And I plan on CTBing soon soo......adoption is not really in the question

Good for you for donating to children's charities. I was suggesting prosocial actions like volunteering and donating as alternatives to adoption and fostering if they're not possible, and to help channel your maternal tendencies without procreating.

 

[hellispink]

Death should also be celebrated and embraced. People should stop satanizing death like it is something bad. The bad, the ugly, the hellish experiences are here being alive.

 

[gimzero]

If you die the system vanished you so quickly that is posibile of nothingness after death and if we never existed how they control the system they create!

 

[Forever Sleep]

Personally, I completely agree with you. In truth, I think it would be a whole lot better for the planet if we all stopped reproducing.

Still, most of my friends now have children and they seem (at least from the outside) to be happy. While I personally feel that any child I had would likely end up unhappy- like me, I don't think that's the case for everyone. If the family is loving and stable and the parents are positive people, I imagine their offspring could well have a reasonable life.

While I understand your viewpoint, I think it's easy to become 'blinkered' by depression where you're unable to see life any other way than doomed and cursed. While I share your world view, I can accept that someone who loves life (for whatever reason) could well want to share it with kids. To me it seems a bit of a game of chance and I don't think the odds are good but I'm a pessimist.

What I find harder to get my head around is people who are already suffering themselves bringing yet more life into the world but it's probably cruel of me to judge. Who knows what decisions we'd make in another's shoes?

 

[summers]

I don't understand the point of reproducing and leaving things to chance. It would be much more efficient to create genetically perfect people and just clone them.

 

[Littlewittlelight]

Fod for thought only birth brings suffering I agree with that one so much. I think it would be bad if people if people just say it in a normal way and not as a taboo. This human race will keep following what they are taught tbh and I don't live to say but here Eastern world looks like it's still stuck in stone age apart from their policies which benefit themselves government, people their beliefs and their narcissism keeps changing here and they would later on say western world is as fucked I don't get the point atleast they accept suicide here you can't know if they will say ahh such a lose hanged himself after you have gone. It's frustrating I would be real there have been 4 attempts all of them hanging out of which 3 were successful one back in 2018 if I remember the girl was 18 something stayed on ventilator they just made her breathe until she died and three attempts in a row this year one was like a couple months back that man was taken to hospital in time and I personally have seen the blue Mark around his neck no surveillance, his family doesn't care he is an alcoholic and now he is working again and following his drinking routine again maybe he lives under a shed on top floor with no electricity that's what I heard have a aluminium roof above his head now tell me how worse could someone's life be? How do you feel now if you aren't under surveillance there wasn't anything involved once he got out of hospital no therapy now I feel it's bad on both the ends when you are under watch you feel bound but now when you aren't you feel noone cares it's true and here it sucks I don't think I would want to end up that way let me just be gone and I even have seen people on top of that comment strong man powerful man they are very illiterate people doing businesses here in my locality all they got is ugly jokes that don't make you laugh sorry for no using any punctuations typing it as fast as I can cause I don't want to think that that western world is more humane than this eastern world for it's taboo. They are close minded they know nothing all they know is money in some places that's the car everywhere maybe but here look what happened to all these 4 people noone even remembered but I think sometimes because I maybe not worried what they will do or what but I am a thinking a little sometimes like yeah what is life for these people not just me I have accepted it's nothing but these won't even when they don't even know what is life I think they should all think about it because I really don't believe whatever they do fuck woman or what lol but they are as delusional as me if I am wrong how fucked do you need to be to not check on someone who just attempted and make comments about it infront of the survivor.
Sorry for long ass post but this would enrage me anyway I am peaceful grateful my mother atleast and some of my family members don't think this way but it's a pond so even in my family there are a couple or one person who I identify always doing narcissism that it's coward to attempt it. I really felt like asking them then what's courageous fucking and making money or talking shit or humiliating Poors? Sadly there have been people even in my family who aren't good examples and I am kinda a narcissist too sometimes I will accept but I realised and I try to understand still I don't ever remember myself making fun or taking these things lightly ain't everyone kind of narcissistic how to treat everyone well when they don't? So I have been but with a couple people I think yeah in my relationship. This is getting to be the longest post ever lol I should shut.
Peace I hope you guys whatever is happening it abates soon and your pain is less either way. whether it is cbt or no cbt. Just some happiness is all we need?
I just hit 1000 words sorry for venting but having seen 4 hanging attempts out of which all were successful if they didn't save him to just make comments and humiliate him afterwards I wish he got peace it hurt it made me think that blue I saw it was hurting he couldn't speak properly what a fucking world had to do to punish that badly a poor weak man. Don't save someone ever just to become a hero or save yourself from the criticism or social stigma here in eastern world it fucked his life again.
Fuck everyone around me except for some people fuck them but I would never say that.

I find it depressing how people continue to bring humans into this world, how new life is born every single day, where people will endure lives filled with suffering and misery all for the sake of it. There is never a need for life to be a thing in the first place, all of our problems are caused by the fact that we exist, an existence that is completely unnecessary and serves no purpose and has no benefit. I believe that it's always better to never exist at all, because why exist and suffer just to die eventually anyway. Non existence is ideal, free from all cruelty and misery.

And yet people are deluded as to see it as being a positive thing to bring people here and this just leads to a cycle of endless suffering, as so many people ctb, people are being born who will eventually leave this world by ctb, with so many using less than ideal methods like hanging and jumping and dying horrible deaths. By never bringing someone into this world it means sparing them from a life where they can end up in the worst pain possible. And births are celebrated and death is seen as upsetting and tragic. Only a birth brings suffering unlike death which is the end of all pain. I don't get how people can see the good in life, how they see life as being good enough to bring someone here. If we were all never born we would never have to suffer. I hate enduring existence and I know that I never should have been brought into this world in the first place.

 

[Snatsbats]

Personally, I completely agree with you. In truth, I think it would be a whole lot better for the planet if we all stopped reproducing.

Still, most of my friends now have children and they seem (at least from the outside) to be happy. While I personally feel that any child I had would likely end up unhappy- like me, I don't think that's the case for everyone. If the family is loving and stable and the parents are positive people, I imagine their offspring could well have a reasonable life.

While I understand your viewpoint, I think it's easy to become 'blinkered' by depression where you're unable to see life any other way than doomed and cursed. While I share your world view, I can accept that someone who loves life (for whatever reason) could well want to share it with kids. To me it seems a bit of a game of chance and I don't think the odds are good but I'm a pessimist.

What I find harder to get my head around is people who are already suffering themselves bringing yet more life into the world but it's probably cruel of me to judge. Who knows what decisions we'd make in another's shoes?

If you dont exist you dont need te be happy. They want to share it with kids because of selfishness. They want to have kids those kids dont need to be born and are forced to make themselves happy.

 

[Rational man]

Humanity presumably evolved through the species over millions of Years and all life is the product of circumstances, when we consider that life on Earth would have been impossible if our solar system had a different trajectory pull amongst the planets. We like all life forms have evolved and survive and multiple, akin ro the viruses and bacteria. Unfortunately, humankind has invented heaven and hell and through this concept, the self-righteous inflict.pain upon others

Humankind is an.ecological experiment that has failed disastrously. Eventually, like the pandemics and viruses elsewhere, everything eventually dies.

 

[ojinzo]

I find it depressing how people continue to bring humans into this world, how new life is born every single day, where people will endure lives filled with suffering and misery all for the sake of it. There is never a need for life to be a thing in the first place, all of our problems are caused by the fact that we exist, an existence that is completely unnecessary and serves no purpose and has no benefit. I believe that it's always better to never exist at all, because why exist and suffer just to die eventually anyway. Non existence is ideal, free from all cruelty and misery.

And yet people are deluded as to see it as being a positive thing to bring people here and this just leads to a cycle of endless suffering, as so many people ctb, people are being born who will eventually leave this world by ctb, with so many using less than ideal methods like hanging and jumping and dying horrible deaths. By never bringing someone into this world it means sparing them from a life where they can end up in the worst pain possible. And births are celebrated and death is seen as upsetting and tragic. Only a birth brings suffering unlike death which is the end of all pain. I don't get how people can see the good in life, how they see life as being good enough to bring someone here. If we were all never born we would never have to suffer. I hate enduring existence and I know that I never should have been brought into this world in the first place.

It's funny, you are literally one of my favorite people on here. I think you're kind, compassionate and understanding. The only thing I disagree with you on is never existing. However, I do respect your belief or want. I just can't stomach non existence. I just think I was born to the wrong family in the wrong body on the wrong planet. Again, I love and respect you and your thoughts. Thanks for all you do and share.

 

[Euthanza]

Life's a trap, there's only two type of people who can deny right to suicide, either they're stupid delusional and or dishonest sociopath. Even god (assuming there's one) cannot and doesn't want to exist in this life, god committed suicide 2000 years ago, we're living in his dead corpse, abandoned. Bringing a child into this modern slavery system of life is immoral.

 

[Lonerzepam]

Well based on an episode of south park earth is just a reality show for aliens. The older I get and the more I suffer it kinda makes sense lol

I don't understand the point of reproducing and leaving things to chance. It would be much more efficient to create genetically perfect people and just clone them.
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It wouldn't matter anyways really

 

[summers]

It wouldn't matter anyways really

I think it would solve several problems. You could have population stability, and adjust populations to regions. You could virtually eliminate any birth defects or undesirable traits. You could build in immunity to diseases without the need for vaccines. If the clones were wards of the state until they reach the age of majority, their education, values, and physical and mental training could be standardized to produce people who all have an equal chance of success in life. Everything would come down to specialization post-childhood.

I'm sure there would still be issues, but this would be such a societal shift that I can't even think of what they would be...