Nembutal Powder on Dark Net, most likely a scam?

[Shadowlord900]

So while looking for nitazenes on other dark net markets since AB closing down, I somehow managed to come across a few people (one of them from China) selling N Powder on Market B and this started making me curious. I started looking for N Powder on other markets too. I've checked about 3 total. But looking at some of the vendors on the other markets were raising some red flags for me.

On Market I with the vendor starting with C (I don't think this is the same C other people referred to in other topics), despite having a lot of positive reviews, had a few negative reviews. For a lot of vendors this is normal, but what made me suspicious about this one was all the positive reviews were only from buyers with a level of 1 (I assume your level increases the more orders you make), the negative reviews were from people with level 2 or higher. One of the negative reviews also came from someone who tried ordering N Powder and never got it.

On Market KM a vendor selling N Powder while only having a couple of positive reviews (and if you're wondering, no none of them were about the N Powder), had over 60 orders (including 10 on the N Powder) and no negative reviews plus a bunch of sales on other markets. But he was also selling counterfeit money in his listings which really rubs me the wrong way. You could also say it's really odd that he's made over 60 orders but only got 2 reviews.

Market B looks like the most reliable of the 3 I've seen, but a few things still have me concerned. They're all from fairly new vendors that haven't gotten many orders. The few reviews they have gotten are all positive, but none of them are on N Powder, and none of them have sold any of the N Powder. Another thing worth mentioning which I think I've read somewhere before that can be a red flag is all but 1 of them are only accepting Bitcoin (BTC) and not Monero (XMR). The only one that is accepting XMR, while having the most orders out of the lot (but not by a substantial amount), does have 2 negative reviews, not because they didn't receive the product, but complained the product was fake. Neither of them were about the N Powder though but of other drugs.

What are your guy's thoughts on this? Also do you think the country is being shipped from matters much? (On Market B, only 1 of them is shipping from China, the rest are shipping from Denmark, US, Netherlands and 1 vendor with no listed country but reading from his profile might also be from China.)

 

[ThisIsLife]

Read pages 46 to 70 of the PPH

 

[Sunset Limited]

I don't know about Dark Net but you seem to know about it. What percent do you think the seller is trustworthy?

 

[Shadowlord900]

Read pages 46 to 70 of the PPH

So there hasn't been any successful reports of purchases of N on the dark net since 2021? Well damn, guess I better not get my hopes up.

At least I have alternative drugs I can find.

I don't know about Dark Net but you seem to know about it. What percent do you think the seller is trustworthy?

No idea, the ones on Market B seem the most trustworthy of the lot but not enough to make the attempt since they have so few orders and none of them have been on N powder yet.

 

[Sunset Limited]

No idea, the ones on Market B seem the most trustworthy of the lot but not enough to make the attempt since they have so few orders and none of them have been on N powder yet.

It just seems like a gamble worth trying for the rich.

 

[ThisIsLife]

At least I have alternative drugs I can find.

Such as ?

 

[living once]

I've been on KM (hell yes) for a bit now since my goto's keep getting ddos'ed. Never found any N related product on there tho. I still highly doubt that any legit N is available on the DNM but I may be wrong.

 

[Shadowlord900]

Such as ?

Phenobarbital (I'm confident the one I'm looking at is more legit since it's a known brand of tablets called Barbital-100) and various nitazenes. Although the nitazenes can be rather expensive.

I've been on KM (hell yes) for a bit now since my goto's keep getting ddos'ed. Never found any N related product on there tho. I still highly doubt that any legit N is available on the DNM but I may be wrong.

Since you've been on KM before, I'll pm you the vendor name to see if you can find it from his listings.

 

[ThisIsLife]

Phenobarbital (I'm confident the one I'm looking at is more legit since it's a known brand of tablets called Barbital-100) and various nitazenes. Although the nitazenes can be rather expensive.

What would be the dosage of each to CTB and what would be the protocol ?

You said it would deliver a peaceful death, how ? Is it by hypoxia ?

 

[Shadowlord900]

What would be the dosage of each to CTB and what would be the protocol ?

You said it would deliver a peaceful death, how ? Is it by hypoxia ?

Phenobarbital alone can make you CTB at an average dose of 10g, but the most I've ever heard someone surviving Pheno OD is 16g. Barbital-100 is said to have 100 tablets each containing 100mg of Pheno, so I was thinking of ordering 2 boxes.

Nitazene I haven't figured out yet, since different kinds have different potencies. Etonitazene I think is the most potent, it's said to be 1000 times more potent than Morphine, but I currently can't find that on any dark net market atm. Isotonitazene is the second most potent being 500 times more potent than Morphine. Also these potency tests are only on animals and has been said to be far less potent in humans, but I've read on wikipedia that Isotonitazene should at least be slightly more potent than fentanyl.

List of benzimidazole opioids - Wikipedia

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Isotonitazene - Wikipedia

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Also I plan to ingest all of these orally after taking domperidone, so the nitazene opioid will likely have less bioavailbility. I don't know if this would be death by hypoxia. I think death by Pheno should be similar to Pento (N), just takes up to 3 days to make you CTB while you're in a coma instead of a few minutes like Pento.

 

[ThisIsLife]

Phenobarbital alone can make you CTB at an average dose of 10g, but the most I've ever heard someone surviving Pheno OD is 16g. Barbital-100 is said to have 100 tablets each containing 100mg of Pheno, so I was thinking of ordering 2 boxes.

Also I plan to ingest all of these orally after taking domperidone, so the nitazene opioid will likely have less bioavailbility. I don't know if this would be death by hypoxia. I think death by Pheno should be similar to Pento (N), just takes up to 3 days to make you CTB while you're in a coma instead of a few minutes like Pento.

More than a hundred (if not double) of tablets to ingest and 3 days to CTB might be a problem.

 

[Shadowlord900]

More than a hundred (if not double) of tablets to ingest and 3 days to CTB might be a problem.

I don't plan on swallowing them whole, I'm gonna see if I can crush them beforehand.

 

[Dayrain]

(On Market B, only 1 of them is shipping from China, the rest are shipping from Denmark, US, Netherlands and 1 vendor with no listed country but reading from his profile might also be from China.)

What are the prices for N for these vendors?

 

[novem]

I have never had practical experience with DNM but don't they provide escrow ? Or those that did are already shut down?

 

[Shadowlord900]

What are the prices for N for these vendors?

1g = ~£65 (From Netherlands, vendor has had no orders)
10g = ~£250 (This is one is from the vendor with most orders but does have a couple of negative feedback unrelated to N, I suspect this one is from China)
10g = ~£300 (From China)
30g = ~£830 (From US)
100g = ~£1420 (From Denmark)

Sorry for GBP, I'm British. :P (BTW for mods if you're concerned I'm giving out too much info please censor this part of the post.)

I have never had practical experience with DNM but don't they provide escrow ? Or those that did are already shut down?

Most of the good ones still use escrow (Market B uses escrow), but its features can be limited. I don't even know if Market B lets you extend the auto-finalize timer, but the ones that let you, you can only extend it so many number of times before you eventually have to finalize. (There's still the possibility of disputing with a market mod, but unless if the vendor provides you with a tracking number, it may be difficult for the case to win in your favor.)

 

[novem]

1g = ~£65 (From Netherlands, vendor has had no orders)
10g = ~£250 (This is one is from the vendor with most orders but does have a couple of negative feedback unrelated to N, I suspect this one is from China)
10g = ~£300 (From China)
30g = ~£830 (From US)
100g = ~£1420 (From Denmark)

Sorry for GBP, I'm British. :P (BTW for mods if you're concerned I'm giving out too much info please censor this part of the post.)


Most of the good ones still use escrow (Market B uses escrow), but its features can be limited. I don't even know if Market B lets you extend the auto-finalize timer, but the ones that let you, you can only extend it so many number of times before you eventually have to finalize. (There's still the possibility of disputing with a market mod, but unless if the vendor provides you with a tracking number, it may be difficult for the case to win in your favor.)

Hope someone with money can verify those sources, it does not look too expensive.

 

[ThisIsLife]

1g = ~£65 (From Netherlands, vendor has had no orders)
10g = ~£250 (This is one is from the vendor with most orders but does have a couple of negative feedback unrelated to N, I suspect this one is from China)
10g = ~£300 (From China)
30g = ~£830 (From US)
100g = ~£1420 (From Denmark)

Sorry for GBP, I'm British. :P (BTW for mods if you're concerned I'm giving out too much info please censor this part of the post.)


Most of the good ones still use escrow (Market B uses escrow), but its features can be limited. I don't even know if Market B lets you extend the auto-finalize timer, but the ones that let you, you can only extend it so many number of times before you eventually have to finalize. (There's still the possibility of disputing with a market mod, but unless if the vendor provides you with a tracking number, it may be difficult for the case to win in your favor.)

You said earlier that it was powder. It bugs me a little bit. Does the photo show any pharmaceutical packaging ? Could you screenshot the offer from the platform and send it to me via PM when you have time please ?

 

[lebrodude]

So this may be a dumb question but what do you Actually do with Nembutal powder ?

just mix it with water ?

 

[freelifexit]

100g = ~£1420 (From Denmark)

There is company Lundbeck in Denmark which produces pentobarbital. Maybe someone steals powder from factory. But Denmark is very law-abiding country, chances are very low.

Last year I made my own research and found seller in China in chemical online catalogue, found their whatsapp, they offered me free sample and asked to pay 100$ for delivery, I decided that it is a scam.

 

[Shadowlord900]

There is company Lundbeck in Denmark which produces pentobarbital. Maybe someone steals powder from factory. But Denmark is very law-abiding country, chances are very low.

Last year I made my own research and found seller in China in chemical online catalogue, found their whatsapp, they offered me free sample and asked to pay 100$ for delivery, I decided that it is a scam.

That's a good point bringing up shipping costs. I forgot about that.

Both the China ones from Market B are asking ~$50-60 for shipping, both of them mention about offering tracking either on the listing itself or on their vendor page. The one from Denmark is $1 for no tracking and ~$35 with tracking.

 

[purella]

There is company Lundbeck in Denmark which produces pentobarbital. Maybe someone steals powder from factory. But Denmark is very law-abiding country, chances are very low.

Last year I made my own research and found seller in China in chemical online catalogue, found their whatsapp, they offered me free sample and asked to pay 100$ for delivery, I decided that it is a scam.

I found one as well 3 years ago, $500 for 10g $1200 for 25g on madeinchina, but never went through with it. The company exists but that doesnt mean much.

 

[Dayrain]

So this may be a dumb question but what do you Actually do with Nembutal powder ?

just mix it with water ?

Yes.

 

[Shadowlord900]

Just a small update, I'm starting to have my suspicions about the vendor from Denmark from Market B. While looking into new markets I haven't explored yet, I also found the same vendor on a different market, but this time he's selling Nembutal powder that's from Netherlands instead of Denmark, at a much lower quantity for higher the price (28g for ~£920). Not only that, he's also selling counterfeit driving licenses. Then when I went back to check him on Market B, he's even selling counterfeit credit/debit cards. I really should have checked the store pages of more vendors.

Also something I want to mention because while it's 100% scam I thought it was funny, someone's trying to sell Nembutal (they say it can come in powder, liquid or pill form, buyer's choice), but not only have they had no orders from any of their products and have been away for some time, they're using an image of Percocet on the Nembutal listing.



Sadly haven't seen anything else worth of note on the 2 new markets I've just checked.

 

[Shadowlord900]

Another update on my nembutal dark net sources.

2 of the sources from Market B have disappeared. I think I know the reason why one of them disappeared. They posted an advertisement for their business on Dread (it's like the Reddit of the Dark Net) and someone complained in their topic about them selling nembutal. I've been talking to another member about this who has also been in contact with that vendor and from the sounds of it, they're only going to sell nembutal privately now.

The other source, not only did their listing for nembutal disappeared, their whole account has disappeared as well, making me think they either exit scammed, or got banned by the market for other dubious activities. Same member that I've been talking to about the various sources has been in contact with some of the vendors selling nembutal. He said most came across as shady like really pushing for a sale, I think that also included the source who has just completely vanished. I think I remember even seeing a Dread post mentioning said source being a scammer.