Alwaysbadtime

Alwaysbadtime

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Jun 28, 2021
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They just put up on a Sunday: Fuck Biden flag. There are kids in the neighborhood. No one wants to read the word FUCK everyday. It's not a shitty neighborhood. Their fucking warped hate and narccissitic identity is pointless. Police were called to question this overt gesture of vulgarity.

USA fucking sucks. If I were a kid and saw FUCK Biden I would feel very disheartened....I would fear an assasination. I would think to use FUCK for anything I didn't like.

People need to grow up and deal with shit. This outward hate is spurred on from the Trump shit and the wackos who support him....not all...as not everyone puts up such a flag. Their last flag was a black American flag. It pisses me off that these people are functional....have jobs and do and own shit. They pride themselves on this fucked up hate identity and it's bogus. I may cut flag down if I can in the middle of the night. I don't know. It's just fucking stupid.

I hope they take it down. I fucking hate where I exist.
 
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NumbItAll

NumbItAll

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I don't really understand the need for flags in general but I agree these kind of specialized flags are particularly obnoxious. I'm not sure why people feel the need to advertise all of their views and personal details to strangers. Has anyone's mind ever been changed by a flag, yard sign, etc.? Just annoying.
 
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BitterlyAlive_

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I think anyone willing to buy or make shit like that is a chump. I don't give a fuck which "side" the flag/sign/whatever is for. It's all ridiculous.
I'm not sure why people feel the need to advertise all of their views and personal details to strangers.
It makes them feel special and important
 
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Panna

Panna

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Don't attack their flag if anything else, complaining is fine but if you vandalize it, you're stooping to their level and even if they don't have proof, they might still retaliate violently.
 
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TriggerHappy

TriggerHappy

In the kingdom of th blind; the one-eyed are kings
Jan 24, 2021
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Don't forget sum peeps like the shock value and fucked up "humour".
Maybe its their right :: I so agree with you, its a bit grim. Esp politically. What exactly is your problem with it? The word fuck, or the political agenda / shock value behind the design?there's an agency behind it - that it where you apply pressure, commercialy abstain from their products.
I have more hectic (pop / surreal / grotesque / porn) art /photography on my walls. Some of them mine. Not for the planet to see and when kids are around they're never allowed in my wing/ bedroom.
I teach advertising /illustration / media ethics to graphic designers :: trust me when you have classes of over creative kids with points 2 prove (that you've just tought photoshop image editing / after effects to) the outcome is often shocking and sumtimes challenging.
Its their process and free will. Its mental :: I have a student who's mom is facing disciplinary hearings cos her son typed 'erotic art' on her work laptop for an assignment, its luckily solved, but an interesting experience :: now we in lockdown im concerned what sites my young adults access... and my role in that. But they need to submit their assignments (I hear some shocked parents sigh)
Personally I think the beauty perfection myth we teach kids is more destructive than artistically gratifying. Think my mission is to explain this is very shaky ground you're standing on :: in my ethics class i have a crew of graffiti artists that post really shocking stuff / they make Banksy look like a choirboy. It their form of communication, and to shock is their method. I'd hate to be the neighbour's at their commune, but hey. Freedom.
Ugh, its tricky - if they get you react, their mission is successful :: damaging it tonite will maybe only fuel their motivations and tomorrow there will probably be two.
Fuck Biden and fuck you.
I dunno, where I live we have a totally open constitution (most liberal in the world, apparently) we fought hard, and lost many loved ones to get it. But there are still parties that extol racism / sexism etc.
I'm liberal, but I have zero political activism in me after the war.
It sucks, but its the cost of freedom for everyone. Do you value your freedom speech..? Maybe allow them theirs. Apologies.
 
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AnnonyBox

AnnonyBox

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Honestly, at this point I read these flags and signs as more of dogwhistle between bigots. These people just want to televise their hatred. I do my best to avoid these sorts of people if at all possible. That said, it hurts me more to see those "There is hope" and "You matter" signs being put up. I'm not sure why.
 
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nex

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May 3, 2021
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It's virtue signalling.
 
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Alwaysbadtime

Alwaysbadtime

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Jun 28, 2021
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It also says: Fuck you if you voted for him.

Fact is it is vulgar and aggressive, there are children and it lowers property value.

My bf is extremely angry by this delusional ovet hate and he has anger problems already. I worry that if this flag is still up after I off myself that he will go over there and murder him. He just said he wants to kill him.

It really sucks. He is talking about getting neighbors to sign something to get him to take it down and hiring a lawyer. This is really fucked up. It makes me hesitate to off myself until the flag is taken down.

Him committing homocide was already a fear. This flag really hones in the idea that this could become a bad scene. He has ranted about this situation for at least 2.5 hours nonstop.
 
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TriggerHappy

TriggerHappy

In the kingdom of th blind; the one-eyed are kings
Jan 24, 2021
1,298
I do understand. I've experienced something like this with racists and the old national flag. I got over it. One rainy season and it was weather shredded.
Gods justice.
But over a flag? really?
not like starvation or insolvency or losing your faith?
that stupid flag is a symbol of something more if its destroying your Serenity like this.
I would advise therapy, maybe hashing it out in an hour or so can figure out why you are so triggered / need to be so protective?
you can advise, but you are not responsible for the actions of your bf!
I'm an advocate of the fists & knuckles club, but you're probably gonna get sued. Good old fashioned intimidation is never out of vogue but measure the cost and consequences carefully....maybe its worth it, maybe not.
it ain't worth what you're losing. Let it go.
Again, apologies I dont mean to offend.
 
Celerity

Celerity

shape without form, shade without colour
Jan 24, 2021
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Honestly, at this point I read these flags and signs as more of dogwhistle between bigots. These people just want to televise their hatred. I do my best to avoid these sorts of people if at all possible. That said, it hurts me more to see those "There is hope" and "You matter" signs being put up. I'm not sure why.
I absolutely detest those signs sometimes. I know people mean well by them, but they're still empty platitudes at the end of the day.
 
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Alwaysbadtime

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I would advise therapy, maybe hashing it out in an hour or so can figure out why you are so triggered / need to be so protective?
No thanks and please don't give your opinion to this anymore. I really don't care what you think or how you would react to this better than me. Many people around the country have been disturbed by this same flag and a judge in NJ called for it to be taken down or 250 dollars a day to keep up.
 
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TriggerHappy

In the kingdom of th blind; the one-eyed are kings
Jan 24, 2021
1,298
I really don't care what you think or how you would react to this better than me.
Where'd you get that idea from?!
Don't jump to conclusions as to how I'd react. 《"better than me"》
If you wanted to be bullshitted and your ego massaged and everyone to agree with you, maybe you're on the wrong forum.
♤I apologise MY truth offended you. I apologise for pissing u off...(not really)♤
☆ I fly the freak flag high. I'm not the devils advocate, I agreed with u.
Or can't you see past that?
Whatever, as you wish :: im out.
 
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Alwaysbadtime

Alwaysbadtime

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Jun 28, 2021
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Where'd you get that idea from?!
Don't jump to conclusions as to how I'd react. 《"better than me"》
If you wanted to be bullshitted and your ego massaged and everyone to agree with you, maybe you're on the wrong forum.
♤I apologise MY truth offended you. I apologise for pissing u off...(not really)♤
☆ I fly the freak flag high.
I really didn't need to hear about your awesome academic job or how liberal of a place you reside in. You said you 'got over it' and that I need therapy. It's a fucking bad scene and situaton and I don't need my ego massaged I just don't want to be triggered by someone telling me repeatedly that I am powerless and that I should just get over it. This stress is pouring onto my bf as well and I have absolutely no control on how he reacts. If you 'got over it' while I am upset and then you suggest therapy you are insinuating that my stress to this is unfounded. Please just leave me alone....maybe you are on the wrong forum as your situation unlike mine sounds pretty awesome.
 
TriggerHappy

TriggerHappy

In the kingdom of th blind; the one-eyed are kings
Jan 24, 2021
1,298
I really didn't need to hear about your awesome academic job or how liberal of a place you reside in. You said you 'got over it' and that I need therapy. It's a fucking bad scene and situaton and I don't need my ego massaged I just don't want to be triggered by someone telling me repeatedly that I am powerless and that I should just get over it. This stress is pouring onto my bf as well and I have absolutely no control on how he reacts. If you 'got over it' while I am upset and then you suggest therapy you are insinuating that my stress to this is unfounded. Please just leave me alone....maybe you are on the wrong forum as your situation unlike mine sounds pretty awesome.
Wow, have you even read others posts (even mine?)
You are assuming so so much.
I'm out - let it go. U can't can u?!!!
 

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