Need advice for hanging

[winterparty]

Hello,
I'm in a very difficult situation and I need a few tips on hanging. I've only one instruction and it's incomplete
-My rope is 8mm sisal
-I'd use the simple noose and I don't know which kind of knot to use on the upper end so how to tie it to something.
-I'd put it at the highest position on my neck so just below the chin and put the knot on the back of my head

What can go wrong with this? Any other advice? Will I become unconscious quickly?

Kind regards
I wanted to mention that I'm short of time.

 

[taiberjames]

The rope is a bit thin and might break.
From recommendations around is best to use 10-14mm.

 

[CW36]

Snuggle hitch or double constrictor night be used at rigging point.

Hangman's or slipknot, greased with some soap / jelly. Knot at the left side (behind the ear) will ease the pressure on the trachea. Padding is advisable at the front.

 

[winterparty]

Is there a problem if I use the simple noose instead of slipknot/hangman?

 

[CW36]

Is there a problem if I use the simple noose instead of slipknot/hangman?

A slipknot is as simple as you could like. If you mean a ligature that doesn't tighten when pulled down then you're suffering will be prolonged and it'll be possible to free yourself from it, especially partial.

 

[Worndown]

A quick check shows this rope is used for crafting and cat scratching posts. Not a good choice. Double braided dock line is my recommendation. You can make a nice loop for a slip knot with this at one end.

 

[CW36]

A quick check shows this rope is used for crafting and cat scratching posts. Not a good choice. Double braided dock line is my recommendation. You can make a nice loop for a slip knot with this at one end.

That OLK won't cinch tight. SK is better.

 

[Worndown]

No, but if you feed the other end of the rope through it, it becomes the perfect slip knot.

 

[Crono]

Is there a problem if I use the simple noose instead of slipknot/hangman?

Slip Knot - How to tie a Slip Knot

How to tie a slip knot with illustrated and animated examples

www.netknots.com

 

[CW36]

Slip Knot - How to tie a Slip Knot

How to tie a slip knot with illustrated and animated examples

www.netknots.com

This is the best way.

 

[Crono]

Anchor point knot - bowline

bowline is used by rescue teams all over the world. So it's pretty safe.

 

[CW36]

Anchor point knot - bowline

bowline is used by rescue teams all over the world. So it's pretty safe.

Wouldn't bother with bowline, double constrictor is best. Clues in the name.

 

[winterparty]

So I'm confused again. Some expert with a instruction to hanging here? I can use sisal 8mm nevertheless or isn't it working. It has some small fibres but other than that. Then is bowline knot enough or not? There is something called simple noose (first result on youtube) and is it better than the slip knot recommended here?

should I put the noose all to the top?

 

[Worndown]

You can use whatever rope you like. When calculating the odds of success on the first attempt, sketchy rope lowers the chances of success. There are many posts on failures that could have been prevented. If you feel lucky with your setup, I hope it works well.
Best wishes.

 

[Crono]

So I'm confused again. Some expert with a instruction to hanging here? I can use sisal 8mm nevertheless or isn't it working. It has some small fibres but other than that. Then is bowline knot enough or not? There is something called simple noose (first result on youtube) and is it better than the slip knot recommended here?

should I put the noose all to the top?

Then is bowline knot enough or not?

The bowline is quite safe, but needs to be done correctly.

There is something called simple noose (first result on youtube) and is it better than the slip knot recommended here?

Are you referencing this knot? it is insecure, and is very likely to fail.



there's a safer one:

Slip Knot - How to tie a Slip Knot

How to tie a slip knot with illustrated and animated examples

www.netknots.com

 

[DesperateOne]

I'm personally going with the double bowline knot tied around the tree branch multiple times, so even if for some god forsaken reason one unties there will still be two knots that will hold my body in place. For the knot that goes around my neck I'm going with a noose knot. I've looked at the video multiple times and I think its the best one for me since once I put my head in there and the knot tightens there is no way it can become undone. Its pretty much a one way ticket once I drop myself down from the branch which is reassuring. If anyone has any tips or warnings, I'm all ears.

The bowline is quite safe, but needs to be done correctly.




Are you referencing this knot? it is insecure, and is very likely to fail.



there's a safer one:

Slip Knot - How to tie a Slip Knot

How to tie a slip knot with illustrated and animated examples

www.netknots.com

That one kinda looks my noose knot... I'm no expert on knots and ropes, but the end result seems to be the same. I've experimented and the only way it can become undone is if you pull it all the way through, but that won't be possible since there will a neck in the middle. If you pull the other end of the knot it doesn't go anywhere and it just stays in place.

 

[CW36]

I'm personally going with the double bowline knot tied around the tree branch multiple times, so even if for some god forsaken reason one unties there will still be two knots that will hold my body in place. For the knot that goes around my neck I'm going with a noose knot. I've looked at the video multiple times and I think its the best one for me since once I put my head in there and the knot tightens there is no way it can become undone. Its pretty much a one way ticket once I drop myself down from the branch which is reassuring. If anyone has any tips or warnings, I'm all ears.


That one kinda looks my noose knot... I'm no expert on knots and ropes, but the end result seems to be the same. I've experimented and the only way it can become undone is if you pull it all the way through, but that won't be possible since there will a neck in the middle. If you pull the other end of the knot it doesn't go anywhere and it just stays in place.

This is an interesting comparison between the noose knot and the slipknot. The comments under the video suggest there's next to no difference, but as you and the content creator suggest, there clearly is. If the tied up end doesn't slip, I wonder why the slipknot has gained the reputation and not the noose knot.

 

[shootemallagain]

This is the best way.

hi can you answer in chat plss

 

[CW36]

hi can you answer in chat plss

Who me?

 

[shootemallagain]

Who me?

Yes

 

[illAF]

A slipknot is as simple as you could like. If you mean a ligature that doesn't tighten when pulled down then you're suffering will be prolonged and it'll be possible to free yourself from it, especially partial.

First time i read that my suffering would be prolonged with a ligature that doesn't tighten when pulled down. So is it true ? Does it make a big difference ?

 

[Sad Avocado]

Hello,
I'm in a very difficult situation and I need a few tips on hanging. I've only one instruction and it's incomplete
-My rope is 8mm sisal
-I'd use the simple noose and I don't know which kind of knot to use on the upper end so how to tie it to something.
-I'd put it at the highest position on my neck so just below the chin and put the knot on the back of my head

What can go wrong with this? Any other advice? Will I become unconscious quickly?

Kind regards
I wanted to mention that I'm short of time.

I also need to choose a valid method right now. If you dont mind answering, why did you choose hanging?

 

[illAF]

First time i read that my suffering would be prolonged with a ligature that doesn't tighten when pulled down. So is it true ? Does it make a big difference ?

I'm going with that. The ligature is already a loop and i can't tie a knot properly. Do you think its really bad ?

 

[CW36]

First time i read that my suffering would be prolonged with a ligature that doesn't tighten when pulled down. So is it true ? Does it make a big difference ?

Definitely increases the risk of SI winning with a non running noose and partial. if it can't run it can't cinch as tight, so it'll very likely take longer to lose consciousness.

I'm going with that. The ligature is already a loop and i can't tie a knot properly. Do you think its really bad ?

It's not bad. People have CTB with much less. If you can't tie knots then that's understandable why. What material is the noose and is that a flannel for padding?

 

[illAF]

Definitely increases the risk of SI winning with a non running noose and partial. if it can't run it can't cinch as tight, so it'll very likely take longer to lose consciousness.

It's not bad. People have CTB with much less. If you can't tie knots then that's understandable why. What material is the noose and is that a flannel for padding?

Oh shit, I didn't know about that... Makes it even scarier. Sometimes I wonder if not having found all these informations wouldn't have make the things easier. I mean, the more I read, the more I'm scared, if that makes any sense ? (Sorry, english is not my native language and I don't know if I manage to express correctly what I really want to express).

I don't really know what material is the noose but it seems pretty strong (I've exerciced with it multiple times). The paddings are socks.
I'm in a ward so options are quite limitated.

Definitely increases the risk of SI winning with a non running noose and partial. if it can't run it can't cinch as tight, so it'll very likely take longer to lose consciousness.

It's not bad. People have CTB with much less. If you can't tie knots then that's understandable why. What material is the noose and is that a flannel for padding?

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-with-my-set-up-and-fear.128305/#post-2107279

I made a thread about my situation/set up if you want to know more

 

[CW36]

Oh shit, I didn't know about that... Makes it even scarier. Sometimes I wonder if not having found all these informations wouldn't have make the things easier. I mean, the more I read, the more I'm scared, if that makes any sense ? (Sorry, english is not my native language and I don't know if I manage to express correctly what I really want to express).

I don't really know what material is the noose but it seems pretty strong (I've exerciced with it multiple times). The paddings are socks.
I'm in a ward so options are quite limitated.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-with-my-set-up-and-fear.128305/#post-2107279

I made a thread about my situation/set up if you want to know more

Ignorance can be bliss if you succeed, but it's better to know and be put off than try and be one of those that fail. It's okay I can understand fine.

Good, and I'm sorry your in a ward, that does make things harder. Least they don't check you for nooses clearly and stop you going on your phone.

Cause we spoke the other day about the vids, can't believe they haven't set a restriction on content online..

 

[illAF]

Ignorance can be bliss if you succeed, but it's better to know and be put off than try and be one of those that fail. It's okay I can understand fine.

Good, and I'm sorry your in a ward, that does make things harder. Least they don't check you for nooses clearly and stop you going on your phone.

Cause we spoke the other day about the vids, can't believe they haven't set a restriction on content online..

It's an open unit and I am actually quite surprised how "tolerant" they are, as they know I am suicidal. Good for me I guess.

About the vids, Im not using the wifi but my operator datas (amd a VPN) so there is no restriction.

 

[winterparty]

So I've bought this rope in two different sizes and it's working but reluctantly. Maybe grease it somehow or buy different one. I was wondering which size you would choose it's 10 or 14mm but I feel the 14mm one presses against my adams apple. I don't think that's recommended. I need to know how to pass out as quickly as possible. I still don't understand how to do this correctly. I want swift loss of consciousness and as little pain as possible.

 

[Worndown]

You really need a small loop in that end and pass the other end of the rope through it. Instant slip knot that never binds. Try this to make that small loop.

 

[winterparty]

You really need a small loop in that end and pass the other end of the rope through it. Instant slip knot that never binds. Try this to make that small loop.

I'm confused. Use this with an anchor point.


This is mine: