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It makes more sense to believe in materialistic bullshit based on the 5% of the things that we can measure in the universe. And that 5% made out of atoms that are only 0.0001% matter. Just look at your hands on a white background for five minutes and you can even see your aura. Look at the air in a meditative state and you will see waves of energy everywhere.I don't think an afterlife or reincarnation makes any logical sense, but a lot of people on this website believe in an afterlife. Let them be.
It makes more sense to believe in materialistic bullshit based on the 5% of the things that we can measure in the universe. And that 5% made out of atoms that are only 0.0001% matter. Just look at your hands on a white background for five minutes and you can even see your aura. Look at the air in a meditative state and you will see waves of energy everywhere.
I thought everyone could do it, looks like I'm wrong. Just try to keep an open mind, most of the things we discovered in the past were counterintuitive.I've never had that happen even when in a meditative state. Look, it's fine if you believe in afterlife, just like it's ok if I do not. I'm not here to debate with anyone.
Materialism is not science, it's a baloney philosophy based on the never proved assumption that everything can be explained through reductionism. You can't reduce consciousness, there is no such a thing as objects of consciousness, it's non local energy that renders reality. Reality without consciousness is infinite possibilities that never emerge. I see most people here like Rain love to link random "scientific" articles explaining NDE, but they themselves don't read the articles with skepticism, they just accept whatever bullshit explanation is wrote there as being a genuine debunk because if a scientist says it it must be true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pam_Reynolds_case Just look at the bullshit explanation wrote on Wikipedia, it makes totally no sense to me, but for someone who believes in the glorious authority of the current scientific paradigm it does. Because he starts with the assumption that the paranormal must be nonsense no matter what, so he is going to accept whatever explanation he finds to keep his belief system, he is not going to consider all the factors of the experience that contradict the explanation gave by the materialist scientist.
Pseudoskeptics like to claim that they debunk certain things, but they don't, they claim they do but they actually don't, they just give a made-up articulate explanation that seems legit enough because why should it matter, the game is about manipulating people to believe their nonsense not finding the truth. They're like politicians. All the people who claim to debunk NDE never address the cases in which patients report verifiable data in conditions in which they could have not been able to, they just assume the patients or the doctors are lying which is outrageous.
Did you actually read the scientific paper explaining that Pam Reynolds case? You can of course dismiss logical explanations that erase all questions about it and act as if she experienced some magical enlightenment. Again, the strongest case in my opinion against an afterlife is the fact that you lose a big part of yourself when you experience brain damage. Look at failed suicide attempts. People end up as vegetables. That wouldn't happen if your soul is completely independent on your body and exists somewhere in a magical sphere. It's all connected to neurology. You lose that, you lose your consciousness and you disappear.
Except if your brain were like a radio reciever. The soul is still inside the body when the brain gets damaged and so of course people are like a vegetable because we are not exempt from the body's functioning as the soul is connected to the body. But the soul still exists without the body as shown in numerous NDEs and OOBEs and when the body dies, the soul still lives
That only applies if you think the only way through which we can discover truth is by using the scientific method. The explanations skeptics usually give to explain NDE are usually conspiracies or they just avoid the verified experiences to not have to invent a conspiracy and just talk about DMT and the brain going wild.That only applies to physical disabilities though. What about mental disablities? And no, there is no evidence that a soul can exist without a body. Because there isn't even evidence for a soul in the first place.
That only applies to physical disabilities though. What about mental disablities? And no, there is no evidence that a soul can exist without a body. Because there isn't even evidence for a soul in the first place.
Rain wants evidence for the soul, she ignores the verified NDE experiences that show that the mind can receive information when the body senses can't, because it's more rational to think all those people are lying and the current paradigm based on the 5% of what we can measure is the right one. What is your evidence that the brain can produce consciousness? I say we can't know because with our current knowledge of how the brain works it could both receive it like a radio or create it like a computer, you claim it creates it and I cease to exist after I die.
Of course, I would say if we didn't have NDE data then we could say that we can't know if the brain creates or receives it.But all the evidence that the soul exists is in NDEs, OOBEs, etc. That's where one needs to look for evidence of the soul
How was your dxm trip overall? I might be due for one.Thanks for sharing I'm high on DXM again tonight and of course it has me feeling as though there's a spiritual realm and such, I take the sentience in my body in my time and place to mean there's a supernatural, but each person's supernatural experience will be different, real or not, but it's all subjective feeling not empirical. Thanks for this video I will have a looksie.
It makes no difference for me. I already said here that If I kill myself it's a win-win afterlife or not.What disturbs me about this thread and those so eager to debunk the afterlife is it's as if you're trying to take hope away from other people who do believe in it. For some people, that hope is all they have. Let them have it, for God's sake, and quit trying to rain on their parade.
That only applies if you think the only way through which we can discover truth is by using the scientific method. The explanations skeptics usually give to explain NDE are usually conspiracies or they just avoid the verified experiences to not have to invent a conspiracy and just talk about DMT and the brain going wild.
Rain wants evidence for the soul, she ignores the verified NDE experiences that show that the mind can receive information when the body senses can't, because it's more rational to think all those people are lying and the current paradigm based on the 5% of what we can measure is the right one.[...]
What disturbs me about this thread and those so eager to debunk the afterlife is it's as if you're trying to take hope away from other people who do believe in it. For some people, that hope is all they have. Let them have it, for God's sake, and quit trying to rain on their parade.
But all the evidence that the soul exists is in NDEs, OOBEs, etc. That's where one needs to look for evidence of the soul
It wasn't bad but alas I am a bit of an addict to anything I like, indeed I dosed about 150 mg dxm and 125 mg diphenhydramine about an hour ago and it feels so nice <3 Less is more sometimes I realize. It was good on the whole last night, but 300 mg almost had me at a psychotic break I feel, so I am decreasing dose and taking low dose diphenhydramine as I find that helps take away the psychosis feelings. But by itself, oh yes, I awoke and was loving and stroking my pillow, loving the ones who hate me with this beautiful submission of love in my heart, indeed, I took in about 32 ounces of white grapefruit juice as well last night. It was wonderful and I feel really good right now. Sounds good my friend *hugs*How was your dxm trip overall? I might be due for one.
But you can only discover truth by using the scientific method.
And again, that's not correct. The body senses can receive information in these NDE experiences, even in that often quoted Pam Reynolds case. It's literally explained. I know you didn't read the scientific papers. You simply dismiss it because it could contradict your worldview. It's called cognitive dissonance.
I'm not the one claiming there is evidence for the soul when there literally isn't. You're trying to push the afterlife-narrative on us, without providing any evidence for it. You think I want an afterlife to happen? Don't you think that would be an utter nightmare for me? Don't act as if you are the only people entitled to hope. I'm allowed to hope for no afterlife and I'm also allowed to challenge opposing views. You literally say "The soul is a fact" when it's nothing else than a belief that isn't supporting by science. When that arrogance is challenged by someone else, you complain about us taking away hope. How?
"In many religious, philosophical, and mythological traditions, there is a belief in the incororeal essence of a living being called the soul."
First sentence of wikipedia, implying it's a belief. Also, look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul#Science
I took 150 mg of diphenhydramine once and it literally did nothing for me. I didn't even get high!:DIt wasn't bad but alas I am a bit of an addict to anything I like, indeed I dosed about 150 mg dxm and 125 mg diphenhydramine about an hour ago and it feels so nice <3 Less is more sometimes I realize. It was good on the whole last night, but 300 mg almost had me at a psychotic break I feel, so I am decreasing dose and taking low dose diphenhydramine as I find that helps take away the psychosis feelings. But by itself, oh yes, I awoke and was loving and stroking my pillow, loving the ones who hate me with this beautiful submission of love in my heart, indeed, I took in about 32 ounces of white grapefruit juice as well last night. It was wonderful and I feel really good right now. Sounds good my friend *hugs*
But you can only discover truth by using the scientific method.
And again, that's not correct. The body senses can receive information in these NDE experiences, even in that often quoted Pam Reynolds case. It's literally explained. I know you didn't read the scientific papers. You simply dismiss it because it could contradict your worldview. It's called cognitive dissonance.
I'm not the one claiming there is evidence for the soul when there literally isn't. You're trying to push the afterlife-narrative on us, without providing any evidence for it. You think I want an afterlife to happen? Don't you think that would be an utter nightmare for me? Don't act as if you are the only people entitled to hope. I'm allowed to hope for no afterlife and I'm also allowed to challenge opposing views. You literally say "The soul is a fact" when it's nothing else than a belief that isn't supporting by science. When that arrogance is challenged by someone else, you complain about us taking away hope. How?
"In many religious, philosophical, and mythological traditions, there is a belief in the incororeal essence of a living being called the soul."
First sentence of wikipedia, implying it's a belief. Also, look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul#Science