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Starchaser

Starchaser

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Oct 8, 2019
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Yep. And I trust your desire for the info. I hope we can get more insights on it.

I know where @VoidDesirer22 was coming from, too. Please take no offense there either. :heart:
Yep.
I'm okay.
It's just that I have the resources (I bought more bottles on purpose exactly for this) and I have the time to make enough tests to be sure how this product works and I feel the duty to share with SS.

Unless someone is a 250-300kg drug addicted giant, I don't think they have a chance of surviving with a dose greater than 5 grams. Tolerance does not make anyone immortal.
I agree with that, lot of famous and unfamous people died with Barbiturites OD on the past (and they were daily users of it)
Thanks for your knowledge, Sunset.

I have a history with addiction too @Starchaser and like you no longer use but I do have prescriptions and occasionally buy ambien/zolpidem. I have found that drugs that act on gaba are usually quite hard hitting on first use but never really seem to be the same after that. Many patients complain of this to prescribers and are angered about never being forewarned of it. Particularly those given benzos as a way to get through things like periods of grief. My tolerance to ambien and benzos grows just as fast as your experience with your N. Faster even. I'm certain that your experience is a tolerance issue mixed with the way our body responds to follow up doses of gaba effecting drugs. My tolerance to opiates grew fast but nothing like this.

Also worth considering is how recently you ate. If you have a meal soon before taking meds orally it often takes longer for them to work and they take effect over a longer period. Obviously this varies between drugs. The fact you woke feeling so messy and vomited indicates it clearly took effect but as somebody else quite rightly pointed out that our perception of some drugs effects are less prominent on repeat doses even though they are doing something. By that I mean something more than say the percieved 20% you mentioned. Though I know that was a kind of estimate I must say that a very common phenomena with gabaergics is the feeling and assumption that one is not high and therefore people will regularly keep redosing until the point of having a toxic affect that causes symptoms of withdrawal. Its a really odd thing but very real and common.

If you check benzo buddies or bluelight forums you'll find lots of accounts of this. No doubt there's talk of it on reddit subs etc too. I haven't checked out this particular sub reddit. Just found it with a quick search and am including a link because it's dedicated to gabaergics and lists many forms in the description. Most importantly to us, barbiturates.

Hopefully that contributes to explaining what you're experiencing and puts you at a little more ease.
My experience with Benzos is the same.
It hits hard on the 1st/2nd time, but on the 3rd day and after them, It doesn't hit the same, not at all.
Not even 30% of the 1st time.
So, the recommendation (conclusion) here is to be a few weeks without using N (maybe a month) to CTB?
Would you confirm that? I think it's doable.

I know if you take 13g of N you're gonna die anyways, but just to be sure...

I have put on a bit of weight during lockdown. Even, though, I have two bottles, I am going to try and lose a bit just to be safe. I was super skinny and frail a few years back. It would have been easier back then that it is now. Oh, well, I'll try and write a post when I reach the other side :)) Let you all know how it went.
Hey! I think 2 bottles are enough for any human under 200kg
If you decide to go, please make a goodbye thread! I'm gonna miss you
I lit a candle today for @BigGimpin and took a walk listening to nirvana while thinking about him.

Some trips to the other side here make me feel too much.
 
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BrokenBliss

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@Sunset Limited
Unless someone is a 250-300kg drug addicted giant, I don't think they have a chance of surviving with a dose greater than 5 grams. Tolerance does not make anyone immortal.
I am banking on that.
Clarifying: I am a 43kg chick. It's the tolerance I am concerned with (if only slightly) due to the meds I've been on for so long. I'm banking on two bottles being too much for anybody to withstand.
 
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Oh wow, okay. Sorry my poorness was coming out.

I ordered 2 and it was all I could manage financially.

Test away regardless. I'm just a bit on edge.
We cool, our objectives here stills the same ♥
Sorry for anything!
 
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Thank you for doing all of these tests for us. :hug:

I'll try to do only one small taste test then before I ctb, to avoid building any tolerance.
 
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My experience with Benzos is the same.
It hits hard on the 1st/2nd time, but on the 3rd day and after them, It doesn't hit the same, not at all.
Not even 30% of the 1st time.
So, the recommendation (conclusion) here is to be a few weeks without using N (maybe a month) to CTB?
Would you confirm that? I think it's doable.

I know if you take 13g of N you're gonna die anyways, but just to be sure...

Hi. Yeah, I fully agree a few weeks abstaining from anything gabaergic is likely to be enough to reset to zero/base level. I do think a certain amount of previous benzo use will always be present as a kind of memory in the liver and brain and therefore tolerance will grow even faster than a complete gabaergic virgin when use begins a fresh but as you say, 13g of N is going to do the job regardless.

This has been a useful thread for me as I've considered getting extra bottles with my purchase for recreation and taste tests but I think I've changed my mind with the help of this thread. Thank you for sharing your experience. It's interesting to see others coming forward with similar experiences too. It's the first time I've seen this issue raised and it may not have come up if you hadn't got the ball rolling.
 
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Keep in mind that these are intended as multi-dose bottles, of COURSE the top can be punctured multiple times without ruining it. If that wasn't the case, then veterinarians would be buying it in much smaller bottles than this.
 
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BrokenBliss

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Keep in mind that these are intended as multi-dose bottles, of COURSE the top can be punctured multiple times without ruining it. If that wasn't the case, then veterinarians would be buying it in much smaller bottles than this.
Obviously.
 
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fizi22

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Nov 15, 2021
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OP, you're putting the needle through the rubber stopper right?
 
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Smart No More

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I've neglected to ask....... Are any of you guys experiencing this tolerance phenomena on any psych meds, SSRI's specifically? They're known to be factors in extending the coma phase of euthanasia with N so I'm guessing they are a factor in cross tolerance like some other meds.
 
Starchaser

Starchaser

Student
Oct 8, 2019
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OP, you're putting the needle through the rubber stopper right?
Yep

I've neglected to ask....... Are any of you guys experiencing this tolerance phenomena on any psych meds, SSRI's specifically? They're known to be factors in extending the coma phase of euthanasia with N so I'm guessing they are a factor in cross tolerance like some other meds.
I take no psych meds, but yes, i've heard the same.
alcohol abusers too
 
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