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Leiden
Arcanist
- Sep 1, 2020
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Will there never again e a source for N. Has that ship completely sailed? I should have bought when I could have. 99% of people can't go searching around another country for N.
N was the way to go but since it's gone SN has become the most peaceful option. It's not"perfectly peaceful".SN is NOT a "peaceful" way to go for many. PPH says"relative". There's many accounts on here showing it's not and if it was, many people wouldn't call for help. N is a peaceful way to go but everyone's right. That ship has sailed. We all want it but can't get it.
Yeah, I guess it depends on what "peaceful" is. Tachycardia, headache, severe nausea, severe stomach and throat pain, throwing up, difficulty breathing for some, just depending. After digging, I've seen some long term effects from a handful that have come back to report.... people have mentioned bladder/kidney damage, stomach issues, heart issues, brain/mental issues, fine motor impairment.N was the way to go but since it's gone SN has become the most peaceful option. It's not"perfectly peaceful".
I don't think N was "perfectly peaceful" either.... Just the most peaceful option.Many have used SN and it worked well. Others have failed. Some because they were found too soon. Some called for help. Some survived because they threw up. I don't remember if anyone has suffered long term effects.
This is what I have seen since I have been here but I could have missed something.![]()
Still... Unfortunately the most peaceful method now.Yeah, I guess it depends on what "peaceful" is. Tachycardia, headache, severe nausea, severe stomach and throat pain, throwing up, difficulty breathing for some, just depending. After digging, I've seen some long term effects from a handful that have come back to report.... people have mentioned bladder/kidney damage, stomach issues, heart issues, brain/mental issues, fine motor impairment.
You wouldn't happen to remember where you found this here or a link to that thread would you?Yeah, I guess it depends on what "peaceful" is. Tachycardia, headache, severe nausea, severe stomach and throat pain, throwing up, difficulty breathing for some, just depending. After digging, I've seen some long term effects from a handful that have come back to report.... people have mentioned bladder/kidney damage, stomach issues, heart issues, brain/mental issues, fine motor impairment.
I know you disagree with just about everything I say on this forum. It's more peaceful than shooting yourself in the head or hanging in my opinion but go ahead and keep scaring people off maybe the one thing that they have to end their suffering. Some of us don't have any other choice. I talk to people going through it and who have survived it and they said it wasn't painful. Further, a lot of people post horror stories on here because they're religious nuts, or people with other ridiculous agendas to try to prevent people from committing suicide.SN is NOT a "peaceful" way to go for many. PPH says"relative". There's many accounts on here showing it's not and if it was, many people wouldn't call for help. N is a peaceful way to go but everyone's right. That ship has sailed. We all want it but can't get it.
It says peaceful not relativeSN is NOT a "peaceful" way to go for many. PPH says"relative". There's many accounts on here showing it's not and if it was, many people wouldn't call for help. N is a peaceful way to go but everyone's right. That ship has sailed. We all want it but can't get it.
People are not lying. Please review the below. People with their horror stories trying to scare people I don't have a lot of patience for it. Few methods are even available to any of us. I think it's reprehensible to terrify people off the one thing that they still might have some access to.What do people get out of lying about SN being peaceful? Very strange.
I trust the PPH data more than people's opinions. I never gave my opinion beyond to say what the PPH stated which you didn't represent accurately by saying it was relative. But like I said, you do you. You won't have to worry about it directly since you're not taking it. Good luck and keep hanging in there.I'm entitled to my opinion based on what I have read and researched about all these methods, just as much as you are entitled to yours. People should be informed about the possible consequences of failure and whether they are willing to accept and take those risks. Things CAN get worse and I care about others. I'm not going to just cheer them on to do something that could make their lives infinitely worse.
I trust the PPH data more than people's opinions. I never gave my opinion beyond to say what the PPH stated which you didn't represent accurately by saying it was relative. But like I said, you do you. You won't have to worry about it directly since you're not taking it. Good luck and keep hanging in there.
It's a crap shoot but I do trust PPH label of peaceful, and the people that I talked to inre SN who were not old. We all deserve N or similar. I hope you get better. I will always believe you can. Keep hanging in there.I'm not worried about it directly. If people know the possibilities of symptoms and outcomes and want to still do it, then so be it. I'm just giving my own opinion after researching a ton on here. There's nothing wrong with having information and data...the pph data is quite limited and includes only old people, many whom are already ill. I do hope it's "peaceful" for you as I know you are suffering.
I haven't seen everything posted about SN but I think it's the preferred method now that N is gone.What do people get out of lying about SN being peaceful? Very strange.
I should have read everything first before I mentioned shooting in the head. Honestly we list all of the methods an SN would still be the best option.I know you disagree with just about everything I say on this forum. It's more peaceful than shooting yourself in the head or hanging in my opinion but go ahead and keep scaring people off maybe the one thing that they have to end their suffering. Some of us don't have any other choice. I talk to people going through it and who have survived it and they said it wasn't painful. Further, a lot of people post horror stories on here because they're religious nuts, or people with other ridiculous agendas to try to prevent people from committing suicide.
You do you. You'll never take SN so don't worry about it.
It says peaceful not relative
People are not lying. Please review the below. People with their horror stories trying to scare people I don't have a lot of patience for it. Few methods are even available to any of us. I think it's reprehensible to terrify people off the one thing that they still might have some access to.
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Generally speaking, you are right that it's peaceful compared to hanging, jumping, drowning, going in front of a train. Is it more peaceful than nitrogen? Might be debatable...we don't really know because not many have went with that method and it seems the exit bag, people struggle on here to get it to work well. A gun in the head is less painful, even if violent. And of course , consequences of failure with that one are pretty severe. If one has gastric issues, such as ulcers, gastritis, or esophagitis, then SN is likely going to hurt.... probably pretty badly. Think about salt on a wound. I'm only trying to give people things to think about and research.I haven't seen everything posted about SN but I think it's the preferred method now that N is gone.
It's considered more peaceful than most other methods. Like shooting yourself in the head or jumping in front of a train.
I should have read everything first before I mentioned shooting in the head. Honestly we list all of the methods an SN would still be the best option.![]()
You were in the phone with someone who took SN with these conditions, before they passed away? Care to share the username on here? It could help us all.I talked to someone while they were using sn, they had stomach ulcers and diverticulitis, they took three doses of liquid Pepto bismol then drank SN and it didn't hurt according to them before they died.
I'm not in the practice of putting usernames on public blast, no. If they wanted their conditions and passing associated with their account for the forum to know, they would have done it. Maybe they did talk about their situation at some point on here, I'm not sure. For some people their suicide is personal, private and that's their choice.You were in the phone with someone who took SN with these conditions, before they passed away? Care to share the username on here? It could help us all.
Right......ok.I'm not in the practice of putting usernames on public blast, no. If they wanted their conditions and passing associated with their account for the forum to know, they would have done it. Maybe they did talk about their situation at some point on here, I'm not sure. For some people their suicide is personal, private and that's their choice.
Your implication here is disgusting. Please don't message me again and please don't respond to any more of my posts.Right......ok.