N or sn without antiemetics

[bubbletea]

Are they really necessary? The pph says to take them in case of vomiting.. they don't specifically say to take them.
I used to take a lot of benzos for medications before. Does anyone know if this matters?
If I have an allergic reaction to the meto.. what can I do?

 

[fisil]

You don't accomplish anything if you vomit. I know @Eden2k failed SN without antiemetics and she suffered more. Benzos maybe a thing with N if you don't take them for longer it's no problem. The with allergic reaction to meto don't think about that.

 

[ddutch]

You need to meto to keep it in.
N is seen by the body as poison because it is not neutral for the stomach. It is ment to be injected.

See next on meds from the euthanasia protocol from the Netherlands

Annex II Unusable resources
BENZODIAZEPINES
It is very difficult to achieve adequate awareness through oral administration of a benzodiazepine.
induce its being reduction.
Intravenous administration also offers no guarantee. There are cases where even
a high dose of intravenously administered benzodiazepines was found to be insufficient.
Benzodiazepines should therefore not be used as a coma inducer.
Midazolam can be used as a premedication.

OPIOIDS
Terminal patients who have used an opioid for an extended period of time are more tolerant
for the respiratory depressive effect. Sometimes these patients do not succeed using cause an opioid to die, even when a high dose is used. If a patient who has not been treated with an opioid in advance may receive an intravenous administration of
a high dose through a major depression at the breathing center and a period of Cheyne
Stokes breathing quickly lead to death.
On the other hand, certain opiates, including buprenorphine and pentazocine, can be used
agonistic also have antagonistic properties. Their application can be acute
induce abstinence symptoms.
The use of opioids is therefore unpredictable.

INSULIN
Parenteral administration of insulin in a sufficiently high dose causes a hypoglycaemic
coma that leads to death. How quickly this happens depends on the condition of the patient.
In any case, death takes at least hours and sometimes days to come. The depth of it
coma changes and even decreases over time, making it necessary to complete an additional
dose. The patient can be very restless during a superficial coma
get cramp attacks.
Potassium chloride
Cardiac arrest can be caused by a high dose of potassium chloride intravenously
(KCl). Injecting KCl is very painful. In addition, it causes KCl, also as one
muscle relaxant has been administered, muscle twitching.

 

[bubbletea]

Meto is a dopamine antagonist.. I've been taking benzos for a long time and now I get jerks and spasms if I take magnesium or alcohol. Does this mean I'll react to the meto this way too?

 

[lupin333]

For the benzos I'm curious as well. I'm heavily depedent and was taking up to 6-12mg a day with a lot of alcohol a year ago. My tolerance is around .5-1mg a day now. I'm curious about the antiemtics as well. I'd like to finally take N, but only have got over the counter antimetics. One with Meclizine 25mg and another dimenhydrinate 50mg. Anybody recommend any advice for the antiemetics?

 

[ddutch]

For the benzos I'm curious as well. I'm heavily depedent and was taking up to 6-12mg a day with a lot of alcohol a year ago. My tolerance is around .5-1mg a day now. I'm curious about the antiemtics as well. I'd like to finally take N, but only have got over the counter antimetics. One with Meclizine 25mg and another dimenhydrinate 50mg. Anybody recommend any advice for the antiemetics?

Metoclopramide on ebay

 

[overkill]

Meto is a dopamine antagonist.. I've been taking benzos for a long time and now I get jerks and spasms if I take magnesium or alcohol. Does this mean I'll react to the meto this way too?

yes, you will be affected by extrapyramidal symptoms. Better take an alternative.

 

[GeorgeJL]

Are they really necessary? The pph says to take them in case of vomiting.. they don't specifically say to take them.
I used to take a lot of benzos for medications before. Does anyone know if this matters?
If I have an allergic reaction to the meto.. what can I do?

As long as the benzos were taken over 2-3 weeks ago it should be fine. Also I wouldn't chance taking nembtual or SN without antiemetics just because you risk vomiting and the whole suicide would go have to be aborted.

 

[bubbletea]

yes, you will be affected by extrapyramidal symptoms. Better take an alternative.

What kind of alternative is there..?

 

[Walilamdzi]

Just reading something about accidental SN poisoning which says: "Within 5 to 30 minutes after breakfast, the involved individuals became dizzy, felt weak, and complained of abdominal cramps. Eight of them vomited and all had diarrhea. Five of them became unconscious shortly after onset of symptoms." Sounds a bit unpleasant and 8/11 vomiting from accidental ingestion makes me think vomiting is likely.

 

[GeorgeJL]

Just reading something about accidental SN poisoning which says: "Within 5 to 30 minutes after breakfast, the involved individuals became dizzy, felt weak, and complained of abdominal cramps. Eight of them vomited and all had diarrhea. Five of them became unconscious shortly after onset of symptoms." Sounds a bit unpleasant and 8/11 vomiting from accidental ingestion makes me think vomiting is likely.

Yeah well that other guy said last night that after he took SN that he was having seizures while he was in the best euphoria of his life. What is your source for this?

 

[Walilamdzi]

Yeah well that other guy said last night that after he took SN that he was having seizures while he was in the best euphoria of his life. What is your source for this?

I was reading about a case described in an article in the American Journal of Public Health, published many years ago in 1945. It's interesting because of 11 men being involved.

The American Journal of Public Health (AJPH) from the American Public Health Association (APHA) publications

American Journal of Public Health (AJPH) from the American Public Health Association (APHA)

ajph.aphapublications.org

 

[Moms_Spaghetti]

yes, you will be affected by extrapyramidal symptoms. Better take an alternative.

Why can't past benzos users use meto? I get jerks and spasms too from being on benzos for years.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

Reviving this thread. Past alcohol or benzo abuse seems to be a risk factor and I consider getting a refund for the meto and getting domperidone instead.

Restless legs/ Parkinson's runs in our family and I am a dry drunk and experienced muscle spasms long after quitting.