My more thorough Sn plan...please review

[Hope:-)]

Hi guys. I posted an Sn plan before but it wasn't very thorough. I realised I need to be more thorough as my cognitive difficulties mean I may make silly mistakes.

15th October-
8.30 am- take x1 10mg meto and 0.5 mg Clonazepam, ( continue taking small amounts of clonazepam throughout the day.)
4.30pm- take x1 10 mg meto
12.30am- take x1 10 mg meto and start food fast

I will be eating snacks, drinking vodka and getting a takeaway on the 15th. Is that ok?

16th October-
8.30am – x10mg meto 0.5 mg clonazepam (and taking small amounts of clonazepam throughout the day.)

4.30pm- x 10mg meto

8.30 pm- limit water to almost nothing

10.30 pm- start water fast, ( albeit drink a little with x 5 40mg propranalol which is a further part of this method and drink a little with the clonazepam.) Wing a number of Clonazepam- take them now. ( I don't know how many to take.)

11.30pm Take max dose of nurofen (brand of Ibruprofen,) and 200 mg propranolol, (x 5 40 mg tablets with water,) and prepare x3 25 gram drinks of sn. I am putting the sn in the glass before adding the water. I hope this is ok. It's just easier for me. Crush 200 mg more of propranalol in the pill crusher and add to the first drink. Take more clonazepam if feel I need it

11.45pm – x3 10mg meto tablets

12am – double dose of milk of magnesia

12.30am: Drink the mixed glass of 25 grams of SN and 200mg propranolol. If not unconscious within 25 mins drink second glass. If I vomit, drink second glass. If I vomit again drink 3rd​ glass.

Go lay on bed.

A few questions- After I begin the water fast is it ok to still take the clonazepam and propranalol after this with a little water? I have benedryl in case the meto messes me up. Do I take 50 grams of it if I get symptoms from meto and do I take it straight away if and after I get symptoms?Also do I take the max dose of Iburprofen I can take in one sitting or do I take the max daily dose in one go? Is it ok to put the sn in the glass first and then add the water as opposed to water first and then sn? It's just easier to weigh this way. Will this method be fatal?

Thanks for reading and for any help. I know it's a bit long but please read it carefully if you can as it is a high stakes situation. Thanks again.
x

 

[Hollowillow]

I understand nothing someone said I can just take sn... I'm scared... *Hugs* I guess if they are nice bonuses...

Why does it takes 2 days?

Never read milk of magnesia in the guide? But my brain nope out after too many numbers and drug names...

Maybe I should make a guide for dummies if I ever understand... Calling it anti vomit... I wish I was an addict eho knows how to get fentanil. I remember that name. It sounds like fun & nil

 

[Suicidebydeath]

I understand nothing someone said I can just take sn... I'm scared... *Hugs* I guess if they are nice bonuses...

Why does it takes 2 days?

Never read milk of magnesia in the guide? But my brain nope out after too many numbers and drug names...

Maybe I should make a guide for dummies if I ever understand... Calling it anti vomit... I wish I was an addict eho knows how to get fentanil. I remember that name. It sounds like fun & nil

Hope is following the full guide to make the actual taking SN as peaceful and effective as possible, as its a struggle with SI. SN is still deadly on its own.

 

[Hope:-)]

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[Hope:-)]

Also is one 25mg drink of SN enough to definitely kill me if I don't vomit. If I vomit I will drink the second glass.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Also is one 25mg drink of SN enough to definitely kill me if I don't vomit. If I vomit I will drink the second glass.

More than likely. 100% certain? Can't say. No one can. Your internal system is your internal system. Nothing is 100% certain.

 

[Hope:-)]

Hey guys. Just bumping this for more responses as I am attempting an attempt (lol...I'm gonna give it my all,) on October 16th. Thanks for any help xx

 

[lionetta12]

Hi guys. I posted an Sn plan before but it wasn't very thorough. I realised I need to be more thorough as my cognitive difficulties mean I may make silly mistakes.

15th October-
8.30 am- take x1 10mg meto and 0.5 mg Clonazepam, ( continue taking small amounts of clonazepam throughout the day.)
4.30pm- take x1 10 mg meto
12.30am- take x1 10 mg meto and start food fast

I will be eating snacks, drinking vodka and getting a takeaway on the 15th. Is that ok?

16th October-
8.30am – x10mg meto 0.5 mg clonazepam (and taking small amounts of clonazepam throughout the day.)

4.30pm- x 10mg meto

8.30 pm- limit water to almost nothing

10.30 pm- start water fast, ( albeit drink a little with x 5 40mg propranalol which is a further part of this method and drink a little with the clonazepam.) Wing a number of Clonazepam- take them now. ( I don't know how many to take.)

11.30pm Take max dose of nurofen (brand of Ibruprofen,) and 200 mg propranolol, (x 5 40 mg tablets with water,) and prepare x3 25 gram drinks of sn. I am putting the sn in the glass before adding the water. I hope this is ok. It's just easier for me. Crush 200 mg more of propranalol in the pill crusher and add to the first drink. Take more clonazepam if feel I need it

11.45pm – x3 10mg meto tablets

12am – double dose of milk of magnesia

12.30am: Drink the mixed glass of 25 grams of SN and 200mg propranolol. If not unconscious within 25 mins drink second glass. If I vomit, drink second glass. If I vomit again drink 3rd​ glass.

Go lay on bed.

A few questions- After I begin the water fast is it ok to still take the clonazepam and propranalol after this with a little water? I have benedryl in case the meto messes me up. Do I take 50 grams of it if I get symptoms from meto and do I take it straight away if and after I get symptoms?Also do I take the max dose of Iburprofen I can take in one sitting or do I take the max daily dose in one go? Is it ok to put the sn in the glass first and then add the water as opposed to water first and then sn? It's just easier to weigh this way. Will this method be fatal?

Thanks for reading and for any help. I know it's a bit long but please read it carefully if you can as it is a high stakes situation. Thanks again.
x

It should be fine to take the pills with a tiny bit of water after you start the water fasting. I've done it several times 1 hour prior to all my surgeries as that's what I was given by the surgeon in their office after 8 hour fast. But beyond that, make sure you don't drink anything other than to consume those pills and to limit the water down to as little as possible. I like Nurofen, it usually helps me. I hope it's able to help you too if you end up facing any pain. I think your plan and regime looks pretty solid.

 

[Hope:-)]

It should be fine to take the pills with a tiny bit of water after you start the water fasting. I've done it several times 1 hour prior to all my surgeries as that's what I was given by the surgeon in their office after 8 hour fast. But beyond that, make sure you don't drink anything other than to consume those pills and to limit the water down to as little as possible. I like Nurofen, it usually helps me. I hope it's able to help you too if you end up facing any pain. I think your plan and regime looks pretty solid.

Thankyou for your response! Much appreciated. x

 

[tiny_dancer]

Although it's different from the current guide, I might consider taking the propranolol ahead of time (like an hour), just to give it time to take effect.

 

[Hope:-)]

Although it's different from the current guide, I might consider taking the propranolol ahead of time (like an hour), just to give it time to take effect.

Hiya. Thanks for your response. I'm taking 200mg an hour before drinking SN, (that's presuming I go through with it drinking the SN) and 200 mg mixed into the SN drink which I plan to take at 12.30 am. x

 

[1000winds]

your plan looks good. go easy on the vodka though

 

[MidnightDream]

I've heard that milk of magnesia can act as a laxative? Not sure if that's good or bad. But combined with the vodka from the night before might lead you to some sad tummy situations, I'm not sure. Depends how sensitive you are to that sort of thing.

I've also heard that taking propranolol at the same time as the SN drink is kinda pointless as it needs some time to work. Maybe taking it with the meto or milk of magnesia might be better?

 

[Hope:-)]

Yes, milk of magnesia can have a laxative effect. I looked up about stomach pain and it says that it both treats and can cause it so that's great. Ha. I'm taking some propranalol an hour before the sn drink so I think that should be ok. I'll go easy on the vodka. Thanks for the responses x

 

[~Q~]

Yes. From a medical perspective that should be good. A water fast isnt strictly necessary as it doesnt inhibit anything passing to your intestines where its absorbed. A glass or 2 throughout the day is acceptable. Everything else looks good. As a last request i would ask you to look at the thread titled pigeon protocol here.

Safe journey.

 

[Hope:-)]

Yes. From a medical perspective that should be good. A water fast isnt strictly necessary as it doesnt inhibit anything passing to your intestines where its absorbed. A glass or 2 throughout the day is acceptable. Everything else looks good. As a last request i would ask you to look at the thread titled pigeon protocol here.

Safe journey.

Hi. Thanks for the response. Tried to search for the pigeon protocol thread but it didn't come up with anything.

Btw guys I weigh 10 stone 13 lbs (153lbs) and I'm 5 ft 7 inches if that affects whether I should take 25g or not. I think I'll take 25g to be on the safe side.

 

[TiredLostHope20]

What is the double dose of milk of magnesia? how many ml?

 

[Hope:-)]

What is the double dose of milk of magnesia? how many ml?

Just looked into it and I'm not sure how much to take either. Don't have the bottle with me. All I can find is the use as a laxative dose and I don't want that! Anyone know?

 

[absurd_to_the_end]

I don't know about the MOM dose, but if you don't normally use it, I would test it beforehand - some people are very sensitive to the laxative effect.

 

[Hope:-)]

I don't know about the MOM dose, but if you don't normally use it, I would test it beforehand - some people are very sensitive to the laxative effect.

Good idea. I'll trial it prior. Still can't find the dose of it's use as an antacid and not a laxative. I can't figure it out. Does anyone know? Thanks

 

[~Q~]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/resources-to-stop-or-abort.99293/#post-1721844

Hi. Thanks for the response. Tried to search for the pigeon protocol thread but it didn't come up with anything.

Btw guys I weigh 10 stone 13 lbs (153lbs) and I'm 5 ft 7 inches if that affects whether I should take 25g or not. I think I'll take 25g to be on the safe side.

The overall weight should be fine.

 

[Hope:-)]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/resources-to-stop-or-abort.99293/#post-1721844

The overall weight should be fine.

Thanks. F**k. Do I have to source the methelyne blue myself? I only have a week and that is the one time I will a house to myself and therefore a viable place to do it.
I thought x2 glasses of 25mg SN in 50ml water is definitely fatal even with the instance of vomiting.

 

[emgrl]

Thanks. F**k. Do I have to source the methelyne blue myself? I only have a week and that is the one time I will a house to myself and therefore a viable place to do it.
I thought x2 glasses of 25mg SN in 50ml water is definitely fatal even with the instance of vomiting.

You don't need that, do you? That's the antidote, right?

 

[Hope:-)]

You don't need that, do you? That's the antidote, right?

It is but if the attempt fails apparently I only have 15 mins for it to be administered before any possible cognitive loss etc from the SN. Ambulances usually take longer to arrive than that. I don't want to end up brain damaged. It will make it harder to try again.

 

[emgrl]

It is but if the attempt fails apparently I only have 15 mins for it to be administered before any possible cognitive loss etc from the SN. Ambulances usually take longer to arrive than that. I don't want to end up brain damaged. It will make it harder to try again.

Oh, ok, I understand now. Most people that have survived by getting medical intervention go via ambulance and stuff that takes time, and they end up ok. I'm hoping that's some solace for you ♡

 

[~Q~]

It is administered via iv and not usually available to the public. Most ems try to keep their response times to under 6 mins for this kind of reason.

 

[Hope:-)]

It is administered via iv and not usually available to the public. Most ems try to keep their response times to under 6 mins for this kind of reason.

Ahhh ok. Thanks for all your help. It's much appreciated.

Just to add: Am I right in thinking x2 glasses of 25mg sn dissolved in 50ml water is definitely fatal even if I vomit and even if medical attention is given to me in under 6 mins?

 

[Littlewittlelight]

Oh, ok, I understand now. Most people that have survived by getting medical intervention go via ambulance and stuff that takes time, and they end up ok. I'm hoping that's some solace for you ♡

Yeah that's true and some didn't even recieve any medical attention so this isn't info this is what I have read if I remember correctly but I also have seen and heard that some people hid it and they were blue when they woke up and other symptoms but there wasn't any noticeable cognitive loss or brain damage if that's true that SN deprives other body parts of oxygen if I remember correctly. Can someone else confirm? That bring said regardless of anything you should search for yourself I am just confirming because I would need to do it in a place where there would be no help like a very remote place so it makes me feel insecure. I would still think and accept anything could happen because if I am ready to go then I should be able to accept some consequences but I haven't heard it is that bad that it makes you unable to attempt cbt again?

 

[Popcornmew]

I think your plan looks great! :)
The only thing i am not sure about is the milk of magnesia
Also pm'd with a question ^^

 

[Hope:-)]

Thanks for your responses.
Btw guys is it appropriate to use a teaspoon or a tablespoon when it comes to measuring the SN?