
Cathy Ames
Cautionary Tale
- Mar 11, 2022
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Yes, it is of a high purity (over 95%) and it is NaNO2 Sodium Nitrite.I'm really sorry if it seems like offtopic, but I'm really really desperate and my time is running out. I have to purchase SN while I still can because soon I wouldn't be able to considering how bad is crisis hitting.
I really need to know guys if this is exactly what I need?
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CAS №: 7632-00-0
The main component: >99%
Molecular mass: 69,00
You from Northern Ireland. They say that word a lot there. Love that country.wee shop
Thank for your reply. Does it need matter if some parts of it are crystalized and some are not? Does it have any effect?Yes, it is of a high purity (over 95%) and it is NaNO2 Sodium Nitrite.
Irish ancestry and born in Scotland. We say wee (meaning little for those who don't know) a lot here as well lolYou from Northern Ireland. They say that word a lot there. Love that country.
If Sodium Nitrite is exposed to air for prolonged periods of time it will eventually degrade and turn into NITRATE (which you don't want). You are speculating about the bag arriving damaged. Obviously, you don't want that, but again speculating?Thank for your reply. Does it need matter if some parts of it are crystalized and some are not? Does it have any effect?
What happens if bag would be damaged during delivery. This would make it useless?
It's in every sentence in Northern Ireland. Even if something isn't small. Like I'm just getting a wee drink. Aye I thought Scottish people said it too. I'm gonna have a wee cuo of tea soon.Irish ancestry and born in Scotland. We say wee (meaning little for those who don't know) a lot here as well lol
aye, yae cannae beat a wee cup of tea lolIt's in every sentence in Northern Ireland. Even if something isn't small. Like I'm just getting a wee drink. Aye I thought Scottish people said it too. I'm gonna have a wee cuo of tea soon.
Just wanted to make. How long is considered "prolonged"? Also when I will add 50 mg of water how long do I need to wait for it to fully dissolve? Can I use a tea spoon to mix it up or just need to wait when it would dissolve by itself?Irish ancestry and born in Scotland. We say wee (meaning little for those who don't know) a lot here as well lol
If Sodium Nitrite is exposed to air for prolonged periods of time it will eventually degrade and turn into NITRATE (which you don't want). You are speculating about the bag arriving damaged. Obviously, you don't want that, but again speculating?
Hi! Make sure that it has been kept protected from air prior to its being sent to you. If damaged in shipping, then put it into something air tight as soon as possible after you get it. Like, squeeze the air out of any plastic bag or foil before you seal it to be air tight.Just wanted to make. How long is considered "prolonged"? Also when I will add 50 mg of water how long do I need to wait for it to fully dissolve? Can I use a tea spoon to mix it up or just need to wait when it would dissolve by itself?
Thank you for your replies. I would like to stick around for a little bit longer and if I'll be honest life wasn't that bad before this happened.Hi! Make sure that it has been kept protected from air prior to its being sent to you. If damaged in shipping, then put it into something air tight as soon as possible after you get it. Like, squeeze the air out of any plastic bag or foil before you seal it to be air tight.
According to these references, "prolonged" is a fairly long time (half-life of 82 days).
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I understand you feel desperate, but once you have what you need, maybe you can stick around for a while to see if things will get better? It's a lot easier to "wait and see" when you have the option of leaving when you want to.
Thank you for your replies. I would like to stick around for a little bit longer and if I'll be honest life wasn't that bad before this happened.
Yesterday I did a lot of research and actually found where to order it from and order. Then I went to the kitchen and had a mental break. I was sitting and just crying because I couldn't believe what I'm about to do. I dont want to do it and this isn't how my life is supposed to end. I never wanted it. But do I even have a choice?
Dying in poverty unable even feed myself, not being able to get money, isolated from everything doomed for decades and decades of struggles.
The situation in Russia isn't going to magically get better. No matter if war would be war or not. Sanctions wouldn't go anything and economy is already ruined beyond possible restoration. I really really don't have a choice.
Someone I know just told me to relax and just sit and watch this like a TV show. But I don't really like his mindset and this approach. If this is a TV show then it is a really really bad and dark TV show that's going to have a really really bad ending. I don't want to watch it.
I'm really sorry. I can relate to all the things you're saying here. This is incredibly unfair towards so many people.I'm crying every day like a baby.
It's just not fair. I never asked for any of this. I don't deserve it. If God does actually exist and like religions are saying and he never give more more than they can take, then what is this?
I know this isn't much of a consolation, but even if they do declare marital law and total draft tomorrow, these things still don't happen that fast. There is a lot of bureaucracy involved in conscripting large quantities of people, they will need to prepare weapons, ammo, equipment, uniforms, places to live during training etc. for each soldier so even if you're to be drafted within the first wave it would still take 2-3 weeks after the start of the draft before anyone comes for you, unless you run to get conscipted voluntarity (first wave are people with previous combat experience, second wave - people with no combat experience but with military training, third - people that replaced compulsory military service with military-related education, fourth...they wouldn't get to the fourth, Ukraine will be toast by then). So no one is going to knock on your doors tomorrow and drag you to army, no need to get super hasty with CTB.I'm scared it can happen before my 99% SN will arrive. I ordered it last week and they took 3-4 days to prepare and only sent it yesterday. I'm scared I wouldn't have time to kill myself before this happen.
I used to work at restaurant but had to quit 3 months. Can't get back because they are waiting for a command to close it down (and not hiring anymore ) as everything is falling apart. Basically nobody is hiring in my region anymore because of raising crisis, lots of people lost jobs, nobody know what to expect, people buy less etc etc.I'm really sorry. I can relate to all the things you're saying here. This is incredibly unfair towards so many people.
I know this isn't much of a consolation, but even if they do declare marital law and total draft tomorrow, these things still don't happen that fast. There is a lot of bureaucracy involved in conscripting large quantities of people, they will need to prepare weapons, ammo, equipment, uniforms, places to live during training etc. for each soldier so even if you're to be drafted within the first wave it would still take 2-3 weeks after the start of the draft before anyone comes for you, unless you run to get conscipted voluntarity (first wave are people with previous combat experience, second wave - people with no combat experience but with military training, third - people that replaced compulsory military service with military-related education, fourth...they wouldn't get to the fourth, Ukraine will be toast by then). So no one is going to knock on your doors tomorrow and drag you to army, no need to get super hasty with CTB.
Now what I would consider real quick before the draft was declared is the option of leaving the country. I know it isn't easy. Trust me, I understand. But it is not impossible. If you can sit this bullshit out somewhere abroad you can avoid the draft. I know it's hard to find an apartment in a strange country with no money, but it might be worth a try. What do you normally do for living?
I highly doubt war would be over anytime soon. Madman will never step back and he can drag that out as long as he want. People's life mean nothing to him.I keep thinking the war will END very soon. I'm not sure why I think that, but I do.
Well, yeah, good point (unfortunately). But I still think your local government simply wouldn't be efficient enough to get their hands on every male in sight within days, even if they don't care about the related laws and just grab whoever they can.But realities in dictatorship country could be way more fucked up than both you and me could ever imagine.
Yeah, I get it. That's why I think there is no reason to hurry if you definitely want to CTB at home but you really should hurry if you want to leave the country. I understand that it is logistically problematic, risky and costly. I know this piece of shit dilemma pretty well, and it really sucks, but I still hope you can consider it.Yes I never served in the military and I was freed from military services for health condition reasons (I had minor brain damage as result of birth injury) but my "category" only freeing me in peaceful time. I still have to serve and can be summoned in case of Martial Law and everything. If martial law would be announced nobody can come or leave. Boarders will be closed. It's already insanely hard and expensive to leave. But it would be totally impossible.
Crapola. I really didn't think about the fact that you can't get any money out of your country. This is super tricky indeed. On the other hand, if you have no savings whatsoever that isn't that much of a problem. Just make sure you take whatever valuables you have with you.I really don't have enough money to get out that's the biggest problem. But also Russian cards doesn't work outside of country, impossible to get USD or EUR inside Russia anymore (they pushed the law that prohibit selling it and people who had deposits in USD can't even withdraw their money anymore). Nobody is going to exchange rubles to something else outside of Russia.
What was your position in the restaraunt? Were you a cook, a barman, waiter, administator etc? I know it sounds depressing, but experience in waiting tables is probably much more useful for an asylee looking for a job than, say, a degree in nuclear physics or economics.I used to work at restaurant but had to quit 3 months.
I was doing some cooking but nothing crazy or complex. I don't really know how to "cook". I was just doing more like preparations and stuff.What was your position in the restaraunt? Were you a cook, a barman, waiter, administator etc? I know it sounds depressing, but experience in waiting tables is probably much more useful for an asylee looking for a job than, say, a degree in nuclear physics or economics.
Oh, I see. I didn't know that they require a reason of entry now. That really, really sucks. I'm so sorry.Also a lot of countries where I can go on train or a bus closed their boarders due lots of immigrants from Russia.
Like for example you can't come anymore to Kazakhstan or Georgia unless you have relatives there, business trip or some other good reasons.
Nobody wants immigrants anymore.
Thank you for your kind words.Maybe something amazing happens and changes the situation at least a little bit towards the better - but still that's a comforting thought I guess.
Take care.
This is so fucking unfair...so many lives just flushed down the toilet. For nothing. Complete insanity.
This is so fucking unfair...so many lives just flushed down the toilet. For nothing. Complete insanity.
I highly doubt war would be over anytime soon. Madman will never step back and he can drag that out as long as he want. People's life mean nothing to him.
He is going to throw as much corpses as he want until he would achieve his imperial goals...
1) it's going to be insanely hard to reach the point to surrender. Changes to die with a horrible, ugly and painful ways are higher than being able to reach the point where I can surrender. Ukraine is a huge territory and they are only controlling small regions. It's not small peace of land where you can just jump down from the truck and run and surrender. Chances that you are going to get shot or killed by a drone or just dying from hunger or other reasons (like killing from your own people) are much more higher than reaching point to surrender. This is a real war.Also, if conscripted and sent to Ukraine you can desert. They are giving people MONEY for deserting, and it is a decent amount. There are a lot of Russian soldiers surrendering.
I totally agree that there is a high chance of dying instead of getting to have a fresh start in Ukraine. Where did you get your information about #2? Because the way war works, it is not an actual, practical, useful thing to have untrained people doing the fighting (other than sacrificing bodies, as Putin is doing). People who don't know what they're doing getting OTHER people killed as well as themselves. [In the US it is a total of 14 weeks to learn to be a theoretically usable infantryman.] Ukraine also does have to have some care not to overtly commit war crimes. I will see if I can find more info about the surrendering for money thing.1) it's going to be insanely hard to reach the point to surrender. Changes to die with a horrible, ugly and painful ways are higher than being able to reach the point where I can surrender. Ukraine is a huge territory and they are only controlling small regions. It's not small peace of land where you can just jump down from the truck and run and surrender. Chances that you are going to get shot or killed by a drone or just dying from hunger or other reasons (like killing from your own people) are much more higher than reaching point to surrender. This is a real war.
2) They offer money yes, but on practice they give two choice: you either fight for them and die or they will exchange you for captured Ukraine soldiers or civilians and just return you back to Russia. Ukraine isn't going to value invaders life more than life or their own people
I've read on various sources that Ukraine is exchanging Russian captured soldier for their own captured people including pro-ukraine sources.I totally agree that there is a high chance of dying instead of getting to have a fresh start in Ukraine. Where did you get your information about #2? Because the way war works, it is not an actual, practical, useful thing to have untrained people doing the fighting (other than sacrificing bodies, as Putin is doing). People who don't know what they're doing getting OTHER people killed as well as themselves. [In the US it is a total of 14 weeks to learn to be a theoretically usable infantryman.] Ukraine also does have to have some care not to overtly commit war crimes. I will see if I can find more info about the surrendering for money thing.
Please. I am not negating the fact that you are in a terrible situation. I totally understand that. I just hate the thought of your killing yourself for nothing if there was any reason at all to have hope and have things work out. That's a waste.
Edit: The original offer from the Ukraine Ministry of Defense was AMNESTY and money that was the equivalent of $50,000 (US dollars). From the verified Facebook account of Ukrainian Minister of Defense. See here... m.facebook.com/100063790800238/posts/357824103020614/
Hello, you can write to me if you want, I have knowledge of suicide methods that are not described in The Peaceful Pill Handbook. I recommend the book Five Last Acts and the plastic bag method or the duct tape method, plastic bags and duct tape are easy to get hold of. The death process is short; 15 minutes - reliable if done correctly but not peaceful.Hey guys. I never though I would ever come to forum like that but I'd like to tell you my story. I'm 30 years and I small and distant region of Russia in a city with 40k pop.
Before you say anything: I'm not supporting what is going and I never did. I always voted against current government every chance I had just to get opposition in but they would just cheat remaining voices and win anyway.
I don't want to kill myself but I have no other option. I'm stuck with limited amount of money that is barely enough to last for a couple months and I lost my job. Nobody is hiring anymore because economy just collapsed in matter of days. Russia is fully isolated from outside world and internet would be next. The situation is going get so much worse than it is right now. And right now is currency crashed. Prices for food and everything skyrocketed and most of the time groceries are empty. I need a lot of meds to control my Acid Reflux and fix stomach issues. They are kinda of permanent. I always need medication against headache because if I don't take it I would get a massive migraine like headache related that is going to last for 3 days straight and no painkillers could fix it. You can't imagine how much I've been stressing and crying since February 23. I dont have any real life friends, relatives no parents. I'm completely alone and what's coming on me is unavoidable and I have no control over it. This country and everyone who left in it are doomed to starve and die in poverty. It's truly horrible. Sometimes I think that I'd rather be in Ukraine and just instantly die from something than stay here and slowly waiting for the end. I can't even run away because I live so far away in Russia and most countries closed their boarders and the ones who are not have enter restrictions. Neither do I have money to run away.
I really don't know what to do. I've read lots of posts on this forum for the past week and I've read the Peaceful Pill book. But the more I research about the more I realize that nothing that been described and posted is available in Russia. Literally nothing. Another problem is that I'm just a coward and I'm scared. I literally can't do anything and I can't stop crying because of it. I can't even properly kill myself with what is available. I really need your help guys. I promise you, I would never come to place like that if it wasn't serious. I'm old and mature enough and my problems are way serious than other people have. At least I think they are. Please suggest me something, help me to find a way out or just at least talk to me.