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Originaldon

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Aug 27, 2020
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I'm currently in a very strange ideation scenario. I was 100% committed to CTB. After a surprise traumatic sectioning I seem to have lost my ideation. I now live in constant suffering with some really bad mental issues. PTSD driven anxiety and depression. every minute of everyday is utter torture in my own head. Yet the thought of killing myself no longer seems an option as it did before.

now I really don't know what to to do and it's actually worse feeling so helpless and hopeless.
 
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That seems strange, can you elaborate on that feeling that you have?
 
Chiisai

Chiisai

To infinity and beyond!
Sep 1, 2021
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I feel you. For almost half a year I have been determined to CTB but for some strange reason I woke up one day having no urge to do so. I do not feel sad, I do not feel happy, it feels like I lost all emotion and it is strange as I already have my things prepared for CTB. However, I kind of have gained confidence that now I have control of my life knowing I could CTB anytime.
 
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Originaldon

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That seems strange, can you elaborate on that feeling that you have?
Every minute of the day everyday I torture myself in my head with constant rumination about a traumatic event. This triggers severe crippling anxiety and depression. I feel helpless and hopeless about my life and feel there is no answer. It's like I am trapped. I was actively suicidal for a while a few months ago and now do not feel the urge to do so.
 
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again_noidea

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Apr 22, 2021
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Every minute of the day everyday I torture myself in my head with constant rumination about a traumatic event. This triggers severe crippling anxiety and depression. I feel helpless and hopeless about my life and feel there is no answer. It's like I am trapped. I was actively suicidal for a while a few months ago and now do not feel the urge to do so.
Strange, when I lose the urge to ctb i have the feeling that I can do anything because it doesn't matter anyway. There are some rare times when i have hope that my life will become meaningful and enjoyable, but these are very rare occasions. maybe 2 month in a year... maybe less. I heard that lots of people ctb when they begin taking antidepressants because then they find the energy to do it. Maybe these people also lost the urge to ctb before they started with the antidepressants.
 
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Originaldon

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It's a strange one as it was this feeling of unbearable thinking and depression/anxiety that gave me the suicidal urge. It now feels worse because I've lost that comforting thought of escape.
 
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Originaldon

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maybe it the feeling or urge that you lost, because you can still think rationally about it
I don't know if I do rational thinking at the minute. I feel like I'm going crazy.

that is the problem is that I've lost the suicidal urge so I no longer have that comforting thought of escape from this utter hell I'm going through mentally. It's been 4/5 months of it now. Every minute of the day it cripples me and it just becomes unbearable.
 
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CTB takes planning, focus, and energy. When we go through trauma it is not uncommon to become too anxious and too drained to have all the energy and focus needed for CTB. This has happened to me and it sounds like you may be going through something similar. It's why, as mentioned above, some people CTB shortly after starting antidepressants; for the first time in years they have some energy, their thoughts are more organized, they can make a plan and go out and get the necessary items, etc. Yet the medication takes months to reach its full effect, so it hasn't relieved their depression and they are still suffering to the level of wanting to CTB.

It sounds like you experienced a severe trauma and your mind is concentrated on trying to process this trauma, and it doesn't have room for all the thoughts that need to go into planning CTB. It's a terrible place to be in, but I want to say that you're not alone and you're not crazy, trauma is an incredibly hard thing for the brain to process and 4 months is not a long time in terms of that, Don't ever feel like you need to "get over it" as that is not possible, if your body was battling cancer or any other physical disease it would just need to take all the time it needs and this is the same thing.

On the flip side, I know that suffering daily makes 4 months into a very long time for how you have to experience it. I so wish trauma didn't exist and I could snap my fingers and undo this for you, but we can't undo time. Just do your best to be kind and gentle to yourself, don't put extra pressure or expectations on yourself, and give yourself the best chance to heal.
 
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CTB takes planning, focus, and energy. When we go through trauma it is not uncommon to become too anxious and too drained to have all the energy and focus needed for CTB. This has happened to me and it sounds like you may be going through something similar. It's why, as mentioned above, some people CTB shortly after starting antidepressants; for the first time in years they have some energy, their thoughts are more organized, they can make a plan and go out and get the necessary items, etc. Yet the medication takes months to reach its full effect, so it hasn't relieved their depression and they are still suffering to the level of wanting to CTB.

It sounds like you experienced a severe trauma and your mind is concentrated on trying to process this trauma, and it doesn't have room for all the thoughts that need to go into planning CTB. It's a terrible place to be in, but I want to say that you're not alone and you're not crazy, trauma is an incredibly hard thing for the brain to process and 4 months is not a long time in terms of that, Don't ever feel like you need to "get over it" as that is not possible, if your body was battling cancer or any other physical disease it would just need to take all the time it needs and this is the same thing.

On the flip side, I know that suffering daily makes 4 months into a very long time for how you have to experience it. I so wish trauma didn't exist and I could snap my fingers and undo this for you, but we can't undo time. Just do your best to be kind and gentle to yourself, don't put extra pressure or expectations on yourself, and give yourself the best chance to heal.
I seriously appreciate this and it means a lot. It makes all the difference when someone talks to you who understands. Thank you for being so kind.
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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I'm sorry you are suffering. I understand how the desire to ctb can be comforting, as that is how I feel, it is my one escape. I imagine it must be awful to experience this. I wish you well.
 
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Clodius

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Jul 29, 2021
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It's a strange one as it was this feeling of unbearable thinking and depression/anxiety that gave me the suicidal urge. It now feels worse because I've lost that comforting thought of escape.
I feel almost exactly the same. Before taking antidepressants, the thought of CTB made me happy and comforted and was a way I coped. A few months into antidepressants I feel just as miserable if not worse, although for some reason I don't have the urge to CTB which causes me to feel worse since I have no way to cope and no way out of the situation.
 
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Chiisai

To infinity and beyond!
Sep 1, 2021
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I feel almost exactly the same. Before taking antidepressants, the thought of CTB made me happy and comforted and was a way I coped. A few months into antidepressants I feel just as miserable if not worse, although for some reason I don't have the urge to CTB which causes me to feel worse since I have no way to cope and no way out of the situation.
I feel the same. Years ago, I took antideps when I felt depressed due to academic reasons and it only made me feel worse because I didnt think of CTBing but when I took the meds, it made me feel hopeless and trapped for some reason. I believe these should not be labeled antidepressants but anti-suicide.
 
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Fadeawaaaay

Visionary
Nov 12, 2021
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I'm currently in a very strange ideation scenario. I was 100% committed to CTB. After a surprise traumatic sectioning I seem to have lost my ideation. I now live in constant suffering with some really bad mental issues. PTSD driven anxiety and depression. every minute of everyday is utter torture in my own head. Yet the thought of killing myself no longer seems an option as it did before.

now I really don't know what to to do and it's actually worse feeling so helpless and hopeless.
Exactly. If you take suicide off the table when you're stuck with reality which is so much worse.
 

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