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Eegretfrex

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As I mentioned in my previous thread I am Israeli.

The evil arab terrorists murdered over a thousand innocent civillians including babies, small children and the elderly.

This only cemented my decision to NEVER impregnate a woman and have children.

Sadly this world is filled with evil savages.

I am not going to subject my potential children to living in this hell.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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Well, have you ever asked yourself why you (or probably your ancestors) occupy land that doesn't belong to them? Why are Palestinians being expelled from their homeland? Well they're good questions the other way around, aren't they?

Edit: I'm pretty sure the Israeli Army also killed innocent children and people in all the wars they started occupying land that doesn't belong to them. This is just my personal opinion.
 
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I would have preferred that there were no wars, we really live in a shitty world. And the worst is that these wars bring in multinationals that manufacture weapons, and banks, to offer paid offers to repair the damage! I wish good luck to all the innocent population, whatever their origins.
 
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Well, have you ever asked yourself why you (or probably your ancestors) occupy land that doesn't belong to them? Why are Palestinians being expelled? Well they're good questions the other way around, aren't they?

Edit: I'm pretty sure the Israeli Army also killed innocent children and people in all the wars they started occupying land that doesn't belong to them. This is just my personal opinion.
You do realise on that land are archeological sites which dates back thousands of years ( long before Islam was even invented) that belongs to the ancestors of today's Israeli?
Show me 1 single instance where Israeli Army did kill innocent civilians ON PURPOSE.

Edit: This is not the right place to talk about this as moderators kindly ask us. There is a Politics and Philosophy thread for this.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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You do realise on that land are archeological sites which dates back thousands of years ( long before Islam was even invented) that belongs to the ancestors of today's Israeli?
Show me 1 single instance where Israeli Army did kill innocent civilians ON PURPOSE.

Edit: This is not the right place to talk about this as moderators kindly ask us. There is a Politics and Philosophy thread for this.
I'm not interested in a political discussion regarding this topic, it's my opinion and I will not change it.

What about living together in a peaceful manner? Ever thought of that?

Some historical background: Your ancestors lost the war against the Romans which led to the fact that they lost their land in 70AD. Oh yes there are also Roman archaeological sites, don't they belong to the Italians nowadays? This is a very crazy argument imo.

I'm out of this thread.
 
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Eegretfrex

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I'm not interested in a political discussion regarding this topic, it's my opinion and I will not change it.

What about living together in a peaceful manner? Ever thought of that?

Some historical background: Your ancestors lost the war against the Romans which led to the fact that they lost their land in 70AD. Oh yes there are also Roman archaeological sites, don't they belong to the Italians nowadays? This is a very crazy argument imo.

I'm out of this thread.
And the "palestinians" lost the war in 1948 which mean they lost the land.
You are probably an arab that's why you are defending them.
A jordanian or lebanese or syrian or egyptian.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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And the "palestinians" lost the war in 1948 which mean they lost the land.
You are probably an arab that's why you are defending them.
A jordanian or lebanese or syrian or egyptian.
No, I'm not.
 
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I'm not interested in a political discussion regarding this topic, it's my opinion and I will not change it.

What about living together in a peaceful manner? Ever thought of that?
Sure, that would be perfect.
Some historical background: Your ancestors lost the war against the Romans which led to the fact that they lost their land in 70AD. Oh yes there are also Roman archaeological sites, don't they belong to the Italians nowadays? This is a very crazy argument imo.

I'm out of this thread.
Which shows that Jews were there long before the Muslims. I don't know who the Roman buildings belong to but since they were built on Jews land, i assume to the Jews?
They are not my ancestors as I'm not from Israel, but i would've been proud to have such ancestors.
 
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I'm sterlilized, no suffering for my kids!
 
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A moderator already said in a previous thread just like this to keep politics outside of suicide discussion. OP is probably fine to just vent, but y'all need to argue somewhere else.
 
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Edit: I'm pretty sure the Israeli Army also killed innocent children and people in all the wars they started occupying land that doesn't belong to them. This is just my personal opinion.

The Israeli army has been bombing and killing civilians in Gaza for decades now - stealing territory and killing innocent lives indiscriminately.

Both Hamas and the IDF are equally awful and inhumane - but Israel has more firepower and backing from powerful countries, and it is using it currently to carry out their plans of ethnic cleansing in the Gaza strip.

Anyone who sees the Hamas attack as an event that just came out of the blue without questioning the actions of the Israeli government is naive and filled with foolishness.

One can condemn Hamas and their terrorist acts while also condemning the opression and suffering that the IDF causes to innocent lives. One is not an anti-semite for saying that the Israeli government is illegally ocuppying Palestinian land, and opressing millions within the Gaza strip, and one does not support Hamas for saying that Palestinian lives are equal to any other lives.

Bombing of civilians is always awful.

The difference is that Israel is currently threatening millions of innocent lives on Gaza, while Hamas do not have enough firepower or resources to do so.

One does not even have to focus on the current timeline to see the warcrimes the Israeli government has been carrying on for decades now.

Here's a tiny summary of it, ignoring the illegal ocuppation and other acts of oppression such as restricting water, food, electricity and other resources in the Gaza strip:


To end this comment: Israel is currently pulling a mass punishment for all Palestinian civilians because of the Hamas attack, in short, collective punishment has always lead to acts of genocide.

Edit: This should have been posted to the Off-Topic forum, it does not fit in the suicide category... But oh, well. A meaningful discussion that will probably be removed rightfully, I suppose.
 
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The Israeli army has been bombing and killing civilians in Gaza for decades now - stealing territory and killing innocent lives indiscriminately.

Both Hamas and the IDF are equally awful and inhumane - but Israel has more firepower and backing from powerful countries, and it is using it currently to carry out their plans of ethnic cleansing in the Gaza strip.

Anyone who sees the Hamas attack as an event that just came out of the blue without questioning the actions of the Israeli government is naive and filled with foolishness.

One can condemn Hamas and their terrorist acts while also condemning the opression and suffering that the IDF causes to innocent lives. One is not an anti-semite for saying that the Israeli government is illegally ocuppying Palestinian land, and opressing millions within the Gaza strip, and one does not support Hamas for saying that Palestinian lives are equal to any other lives.

Bombing of civilians is always awful.

The difference is that Israel is currently threatening millions of innocent lives on Gaza, while Hamas do not have enough firepower or resources to do so.

One does not even have to focus on the current timeline to see the warcrimes the Israeli government has been carrying on for decades now.

Here's a tiny summary of it, ignoring the illegal ocuppation and other acts of oppression such as restricting water, food, electricity and other resources in the Gaza strip:


To end this comment: Israel is currently pulling a mass punishment for all Palestinian civilians because of the Hamas attack, in short, collective punishment has always lead to acts of genocide.
"Al jazeera" lol.
 
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pole

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reiterating what I've already mentioned in the previous thread:


these types of threads will inevitably turn into arguments, which leads to the thread being derailed and locked.

why?

because the conflict isn't black and white. not only are these threads inherently political, but it is also a complex matter, one that involves having a nuanced discussion that recognizes the hardships of both sides and attempts to address the root causes of the ongoing violence.

moving forward, any posts about the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict must be posted in the politics sub-forum. such discussions should also follow forum rules.



once again, I hope everyone respects the matter and acknowledges how complex the conflict is. it didn't begin this past week.

any meaningful discussion about the conflict can only push forward if everyone remains civil and open to delving deeper into understanding the underlying reasons for the conflict. we aren't here to take sides and blame groups of people. this halts the progress of conversations and further divides our community.

instead, the goal of these discussions must be to enhance our understanding of such a complex matter and to push the conversation forward by working together and thinking about peaceful solutions that can help put an end to the conflict.
 
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