Story My 12th 'potential' reason for CTB (related to Covid-19, social distancing)

[TAW122]

I've skipped a reason (11th) only because that reason is a secret one and when I mention it, it may reveal too much information that could eventually be linked to other stuff about me that I'd rather not have. It is also complicated and not something easy to explain (two reasons into one).

Anyways, here is my 12th reason for wanting to CTB and it's related to the current pandemic as well. As someone who enjoys physical display of affection (hugs, kisses, and what not) and such interactions with people, I feel like this is an integral part of making life (which is already shitty in and of itself) more bearable. With social distancing in place (which of course, is a necessity at this time), such interactions are not possible and one of my fears it that if it remains in place even after the pandemic or changes physical affection in such ways that are unfavorable for me, then it would be a bleak future for me, plus an additional reason (on top of existing ones) to CTB.

I simply cannot (nor willing to) accept a world where physical affection is scarce, restricted, rationed such that it is only reserved for specific people, circumstances, and/or even such that it is near non-existent. I believe that humans, as social animals (as well as other species and mammals out there) require some level of emotional and psychological nurture through physical affection that cannot be easily replaced nor replicated elsewhere. To lose such an integral part of what makes life somewhat tolerable would just be one more (major) reason to exist in such an already bleak world.

Does anyone share similar sentiments as well?

 

[Brick In The Wall]

I definitely think this virus will have long term effects on how we interact with one another. I grew up introverted but have become strongly extroverted through the years. This lack of human interaction has had a negative impact on my mental health.

It will probably be a factor in my decision to CTB at some point. But by now the reasons are stacking up and this one in particular will be just another one on the pile.

 

[Deleted member 18655]

Yes! I can relate!!

I was thinking of putting something on social media, like a public suicide note (I never would, it's just a fantasy), declaring myself a COVID/Non-COVID death. I don't have COVID but it killed everything in me and about me.

When I phoned someone in the first week of March, the first thing I said is, "I'm not going to make it, I don't want to go through this." I don't want to be a part of the New Normal or the New World Order and I can't accept life now. I miss my friends, I miss touch, I so miss hugs, I miss living without fear and I can't get over the changes.

So, I guess you can say COVID killed me.

 

[xaea13]

Yep, if you believe the epidemiologists they're predicting the pandemic will never actually end and social distancing/staying home will be the norm from now on. As if I needed any more reason to ctb lol

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Yes I share these sentiments, along with related others.



Increased social control like traveling restrictions

Violations of privacy such as taking temperatures to be allowed to shop, people with apps that say who around them may be infected

Restricted breathing by forcing masks

Forced vaccinations (I have always turned down flu vaccinations but I don't think COVID vaccinations will be optional)



Totally agree with @coeur.brisé that I don't want to participate in the New World Order. I see evidence that it's been happening for decades, perhaps more than a century, and this is when it becomes overt rather than covert.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

I simply cannot (nor willing to) accept a world where physical affection is scarce, restricted, rationed such that it is only reserved for specific people, circumstances, and/or even such that it is near non-existent. I believe that humans, as social animals (as well as other species and mammals out there) require some level of emotional and psychological nurture through physical affection that cannot be easily replaced nor replicated elsewhere. To lose such an integral part of what makes life somewhat tolerable would just be one more (major) reason to exist in such an already bleak world.

Does anyone share similar sentiments as well?

Are you sure we're not doppelgangers, because that's the EXACT same reason I joined this site back in April? The lockdowns in my filthy liberal state started in March, and had no proper end date. (Hence my name.) To add insult to the injury, feel-good messages like "Stay Home Save Lives", "All In This Together" were posted everywhere, brainwashing people that lockdowns were a good thing. In late April, I got tired of living like that, and wanted out. So I signed up for this site, put together a full CTB plan, started buying CTB supplies, and created a to-do checklist. I also typed up the letters I planned to mail out one hour before CTB'ing, bought the OTC pills I might need, etc. I was very close to logging on to A and buying a big jar of SN, the active ingredient in my plan.

However, in early May, what SAVED MY LIFE, was, wait for it... an illegally hosted party through a right-wing anti-quarantine group I joined. I had posted on their social media page for a few weeks prior, even while planning to CTB. Since I "knew" I'd be dead soon, the stuff I wrote was very detailed, emotional, and a bit violent. And apparently, very persuasive, because the group loved my writings. The group admin invited me to an illegally hosted party he organized about two hours from me. I went there, and I was on CLOUD NINE. I was shaking hands, hugging, and taking cuddly group pictures with people for the first time in months! It seems like everyone there was as starved for human contact as I was. One woman even kissed me! I could barely handle the drive home afterwards, since I kept grinning and laughing. A week later, I drove into the next state to get a long-overdue haircut. And on Memorial Day, me and a few people from that right-wing group took an overnight road trip into the next state. Today, they're like my new best friends! We now hang out almost every week, at least with the ones living relatively close to me.

Today, your situation is easier, since social gatherings are legal again, and bars are open in some states. Get on Meetup, MeWe, TikTok, Facebook, or other media platforms, and look for social groups with the word "conservative" in the name. Conservatives don't buy into the Corona sham, and are therefore open to socializing, and reject the feel-good crap promoting the lockdowns. I'm sure you'd get along with them pretty well, even if you're not pro-Trump; if so, just keep quiet about it. Even if the lockdowns later return with a vengeance, you'll still have those people's contact information and be able to socialize with them.

Yep, if you believe the epidemiologists they're predicting the pandemic will never actually end and social distancing/staying home will be the norm from now on. As if I needed any more reason to ctb lol

Remember: this liberal scamdemic has one goal and one goal only: to make Trump lose. Any "public health" messages are just a facade. I'm pretty sure the lockdowns will end right after the election. Either Trump will win, and Democrats will tuck their tails and end the lockdowns, or Trump will lose, and Democrats will declare victory and end the lockdowns. And what kind of word is "epidemiologist", anyway? It sounds like "episiotomy"; I'd like to give one to everyone in CDC, since they started the whole scamdemic.

 

[AvaAdore]

this liberal scamdemic has one goal and one goal only: to make Trump lose. Any "public health" messages are just a facade. I'm pretty sure the lockdowns will end right after the election. Either Trump will win, and Democrats will tuck their tails and end the lockdowns, or Trump will lose, and Democrats will declare victory and end the lockdowns. And what kind of word is "epidemiologist", anyway? It sounds like "episiotomy"; I'd like to give one to everyone in CDC, since they started the whole scamdemic.

I'm not saying you're incorrect but what's the reasoning for other countries experiencing this?

 

[FadingAway]

Are you sure we're not doppelgangers, because that's the EXACT same reason I joined this site back in April? The lockdowns in my filthy liberal state started in March, and had no proper end date. (Hence my name.) To add insult to the injury, feel-good messages like "Stay Home Save Lives", "All In This Together" were posted everywhere, brainwashing people that lockdowns were a good thing. In late April, I got tired of living like that, and wanted out. So I signed up for this site, put together a full CTB plan, started buying CTB supplies, and created a to-do checklist. I also typed up the letters I planned to mail out one hour before CTB'ing, bought the OTC pills I might need, etc. I was very close to logging on to A and buying a big jar of SN, the active ingredient in my plan.

However, in early May, what SAVED MY LIFE, was, wait for it... an illegally hosted party through a right-wing anti-quarantine group I joined. I had posted on their social media page for a few weeks prior, even while planning to CTB. Since I "knew" I'd be dead soon, the stuff I wrote was very detailed, emotional, and a bit violent. And apparently, very persuasive, because the group loved my writings. The group admin invited me to an illegally hosted party he organized about two hours from me. I went there, and I was on CLOUD NINE. I was shaking hands, hugging, and taking cuddly group pictures with people for the first time in months! It seems like everyone there was as starved for human contact as I was. One woman even kissed me! I could barely handle the drive home afterwards, since I kept grinning and laughing. A week later, I drove into the next state to get a long-overdue haircut. And on Memorial Day, me and a few people from that right-wing group took an overnight road trip into the next state. Today, they're like my new best friends! We now hang out almost every week, at least with the ones living relatively close to me.

Today, your situation is easier, since social gatherings are legal again, and bars are open in some states. Get on Meetup, MeWe, TikTok, Facebook, or other media platforms, and look for social groups with the word "conservative" in the name. Conservatives don't buy into the Corona sham, and are therefore open to socializing, and reject the feel-good crap promoting the lockdowns. I'm sure you'd get along with them pretty well, even if you're not pro-Trump; if so, just keep quiet about it. Even if the lockdowns later return with a vengeance, you'll still have those people's contact information and be able to socialize with them.

Remember: this liberal scamdemic has one goal and one goal only: to make Trump lose. Any "public health" messages are just a facade. I'm pretty sure the lockdowns will end right after the election. Either Trump will win, and Democrats will tuck their tails and end the lockdowns, or Trump will lose, and Democrats will declare victory and end the lockdowns. And what kind of word is "epidemiologist", anyway? It sounds like "episiotomy"; I'd like to give one to everyone in CDC, since they started the whole scamdemic.

This blew my mind and not in a good way. Yikes

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

I'm not saying you're incorrect but what's the reasoning for other countries experiencing this?

I don't know, and to be honest, it's not top thing on my "to worry about" list. I'm sure their governments have their own hidden agendas. Because the whole thing feels too well-planned to be a natural disaster. Somebody paid off somebody to release this virus. And another thing: in most countries, "stay home" orders lasted a few weeks to a month maximum; in the US, they lasted over 2 months, and are still around in a weakened form.

This blew my mind and not in a good way. Yikes

How so? I'm curious. Conservative media did say that more people died from suicides and poverty related to "stay home" orders than from Corona itself.

 

[Meditation guide]

Conservative media did say that more people died from suicides and poverty related to "stay home" orders than from Corona itself.

Why does conservative media put out all the bs about covid? Why would taking precautions such as wearing a mask around other people be this big political argument? It's just common sense. Why do they spew false statements to try to make it seem like this pandemic isn't really a big deal?
The only reason is that we have a republican president who is completely unequipped to lead the country out of it. So people have to die.

 

[Grav]

I believe that humans, as social animals

Same here! I'm pretty much an introvert but I have friends that I hang out with and we have some laughs and play games and what-not. Now it's masks and all the rest of it for who knows how long. Reading through "Lost Connections" was a bummer since a lot of it made sense to me and how we're socially distanced already and relying on things and gimmicks to pretend we aren't. I'm not a self-help fan but some of his chapters really made sense to me, although I haven't finished it yet (other books grab my ocd brain and get read). Yep, social distancing will have a cost, it gets danced around but nothing serious comes out of it. They can have their 6' and PPEs and I'll just move along.

 

[TAW122]

Thanks for the kind words everyone. While no one can really know the future for certain, at least I am prepared for the possibility of having another 'reason' on top of all the existing ones to CTB.

 

[lotus11]

same COVID is fucking up so much for me, not only not having any friends but also having no job, no money, all my pretty urgent hospital and dental appointments cancelled. Fuck stopping society...id rather risk getting the disease, practically all people under 60 don't die from it anyway, and if I do die...well I'm dead, whatever. So so bored of this covid stuff, most of what you hear is just bullshit and lies from governments anyway, who knows what to believe

 

[Deleted member 17949]

Personally I like this reality. I am an anxious person that likes to minimize social interaction so the pandemic worked in my favor in that respect. I have never hugged or kissed anyone outside of my family so that kind of affection just isn't something I really need. COVID hasn't really changed my social life much at all.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

Thanks for the kind words everyone. While no one can really know the future for certain, at least I am prepared for the possibility of having another 'reason' on top of all the existing ones to CTB.

Glad to have helped, and sorry to hear you're going through this. The reason for my proverbial rags-to-riches post is that it boils down to how comfortable you are with breaking the law. (Which wouldn't even be an issue for you today, since social gatherings are legal for now; I went to an illegal party 2 hours away.) It's sad that I had to do that to save my own life, but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

I hope you find a group of people who don't buy into the lockdowns, and are still willing to socialize and give you the affections you seek. You gotta look, and I can't promise anything, but those groups are out there.

 

[Meditation guide]

I'm in the US and I wish they would have a mandatory lockdown here. It's killing people by the thousands each day. We have no rules of any kind and the virus is raging out of control. We are out of hospital beds.

 

[xaea13]

Remember: this liberal scamdemic has one goal and one goal only: to make Trump lose. Any "public health" messages are just a facade. I'm pretty sure the lockdowns will end right after the election. Either Trump will win, and Democrats will tuck their tails and end the lockdowns, or Trump will lose, and Democrats will declare victory and end the lockdowns. And what kind of word is "epidemiologist", anyway? It sounds like "episiotomy"; I'd like to give one to everyone in CDC, since they started the whole scamdemic.

Holding you to that one
Let's see what happens.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

I'm in the US and I wish they would have a mandatory lockdown here. It's killing people by the thousands each day. We have no rules of any kind and the virus is raging out of control. We are out of hospital beds.

I think the virus has been weaponized for political purposes. Apparently all that matters now is coronavirus, yet the numbers are obviously manipulated and inflated to serve a political agenda (notice the media always says so-and-so died 'with' the virus, not 'of' it). Governments don't give a shit about people who are suffering and dying because of the lockdown, due to mental health issues, poverty, and not being able to get medical treatment for health issues other than this virus, yet they pretend to care so deeply about covid19 being spread even if most people who get it will only have mild symptoms.
This whole thing is staged to create a new world order based on more control, centralization of power and elimination of individual freedom.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

I'm in the US and I wish they would have a mandatory lockdown here. It's killing people by the thousands each day. We have no rules of any kind and the virus is raging out of control. We are out of hospital beds.

Even if we do create mandatory lockdowns, good luck locking me down. You're going to have to pry my social life from my cold, dead (proverbial) hands!

I think the virus has been weaponized for political purposes. Apparently all that matters now is coronavirus, yet the numbers are obviously manipulated and inflated to serve a political agenda (notice the media always says so-and-so died 'with' the virus, not 'of' it). Governments don't give a shit about people who are suffering and dying because of the lockdown, due to mental health issues, poverty, and not being able to get medical treatment for health issues other than this virus, yet they pretend to care so deeply about covid19 being spread even if most people who get it will only have mild symptoms.
This whole thing is staged to create a new world order based on more control, centralization of power and elimination of individual freedom.

That's exactly why I wanted to CTB back in April. I knew this was a political sham all along, and wanted no part of this disgusting New World Order. If it wasn't for that right-wing group I found online, I'd probably have CTB'ed by now, for all I know. If not with SN, then with something else. They saved my life! I just wish there was a way to show them that gratitude without getting myself sent to the loony bin.

At least there's a high probability that the filthy liberals will drop the Corona sham right after the November election.

 

[Meditation guide]

Even if we do create mandatory lockdowns, good luck locking me down. You're going to have to pry my social life from my cold, dead (proverbial) hands!

And that's exactly why I wanted to CTB back in April. I knew this was a political sham all along, and wanted no part of this disgusting New World Order. And if it wasn't for that right-wing group I found online, I'd probably have CTB'ed by now, for all I know. If not with SN, then with something else.

At least there's a high probability that the filthy liberals will drop the Corona sham right after the November election.

The sooner we can get it under control the sooner we won't have to worry about it. If we had mandatory lockdowns this entire time we wouldn't even need to be talking about it now. It wouldn't be needed or a problem. It gets worse each day that goes by.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

The sooner we can get it under control the sooner we won't have to worry about it. If we had mandatory lockdowns this entire time we wouldn't even need to be talking about it now. It wouldn't be needed or a problem. It gets worse each day that goes by.

Are you suuuure? If it were up to them, the liberals would have us locked down forever. I'd rather die from Corona than live under the lockdown you wish on me.

 

[Meditation guide]

liberals would have us locked down forever.

Having a horrible pandemic killing thousands of people every day shouldn't be a political battle. The only reason it IS one now is because we have someone in the WH who is not competent to deal with it and suggested people should be injected with disinfectant when they get it. He also said it would just magically disappear on it's own. It's going to get worse forever unless we do the things that work.

Edit: I see your little "mad" emoji's. I'm the one who should be mad! I and every scientist knows this wouldn't even be an issue at all now if we just had a competent person telling people what needs to be done to get rid of this problem. Yeh I'm mad about that. It's ruined my life. Now I can't do anything for fear of getting it. If not for incompetence creating misguided individuals, it would be over and done with by now.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

The sooner we can get it under control the sooner we won't have to worry about it. If we had mandatory lockdowns this entire time we wouldn't even need to be talking about it now. It wouldn't be needed or a problem. It gets worse each day that goes by.

Sorry, but I don't buy this. The public has been duped into accepting all these restrictions with a few orwellian phrases repeated over and over in the media ('control the virus', 'stop the spread', 'social distance rules', 'stay alert' etc).
The real aim is a new type of society where you will have less freedom. Will you accept having a digital microchip implanted which will track your every move on a government database because the virus 'has to be controlled'?
I mean, you can believe what you want, but that's what I think. I might be totally wrong and misguided, that's always possible.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

Having a horrible pandemic killing thousands of people every day shouldn't be a political battle. The only reason it IS one now is because we have someone in the WH who is not competent to deal with it and suggested people should be injected with disinfectant when they get it. He also said it would just magically disappear on it's own. It's going to get worse forever unless we do the things that work.

You spelled "scamdemic" wrong. If what you're saying is true, then the only thing I want to inject myself with is SN.

Sorry, but I don't buy this. The public has been duped into accepting all these restrictions with a few orwellian phrases repeated over and over in the media ('control the virus', 'stop the spread', 'social distance rules', 'stay alert' etc).
The real aim is a new type of society where you will have less freedom.
I mean, you can believe what you want, but that's what I think.

This person gets it!

 

[Meditation guide]

If what you're saying is true,

I have no reason to lie. I'm not sure what you think I said might not be true. If you aren't aware of these things maybe you aren't in the USA.

Talking with my friends in European countries, they have to use an app on their phones that they check into whenever they go in and out of stores, and all places of business to track the virus. They also get their temperatures checked before they go into any place of business. They were in lockdowns until just recently. They have pretty much gotten the virus under control this way. They are required to wear masks any time they are out of their homes. They get huge fines if they do not.

They now have less than 100 cases in the entire countries. We have thousands of new cases a day in the US.

 

[xaea13]

Sorry, but I don't buy this. The public has been duped into accepting all these restrictions with a few orwellian phrases repeated over and over in the media ('control the virus', 'stop the spread', 'social distance rules', 'stay alert' etc).
The real aim is a new type of society where you will have less freedom. Will you accept having a digital microchip implanted which will track your every move on a government database because the virus 'has to be controlled'?
I mean, you can believe what you want, but that's what I think.

Dude, what? I know this is a viewpoint some people have (and tbh I'm as pro-freedom as it gets, a global pandemic like this is the most extreme exception), but countries that locked down quickly and got proper control of the virus (Iceland, NZ for example) are moving around with a lot more freedom and a lot less fear. In Iceland they don't even wear masks anymore. They locked down quickly, the locked down totally, they got proper control with testing and tracing, then they reopened and returned to normal.
This pandemic is as real as it gets. There have been many political attempts to restrict your freedom or violate your rights recently (Patriot Act, Operation Stellar Wind, etc) but this is just not one of them.
I know I can't change what you think, but I'd urge you, don't believe the conspiracy sites that have a horrible track record when it comes to factual reporting. I know mainstream media sucks, but they are at least listening to the scientists this time around, and print media is reporting fairly well on it too.

 

[snowman626]

Sorry, but I don't buy this. The public has been duped into accepting all these restrictions with a few orwellian phrases repeated over and over in the media ('control the virus', 'stop the spread', 'social distance rules', 'stay alert' etc).
The real aim is a new type of society where you will have less freedom. Will you accept having a digital microchip implanted which will track your every move on a government database because the virus 'has to be controlled'?
I mean, you can believe what you want, but that's what I think.

there is no "real aim" other than to stop the spread, and nobody is duped into anything, its as simple as what it appears to be. some people overthink everything and come up with conspiracy theories to make themselves feel superior and ahead of the curve.

Talking with my friends in European countries, they have to use an app on their phones that they check into whenever they go in and out of stores, and all places of business to track the virus. They also get their temperatures checked before they go into any place of business. They were in lockdowns until just recently. They have pretty much gotten the virus under control this way. They are required to wear masks any time they are out of their homes. They get huge fines if they do not.

pretty much every country that do these things have gotten the virus under control. and thats exactly why the USA is #1 in most cases because of ego and "muh fredom" and I've heard some idiots actually say wearing a mask is a "communist lie" and that wearing one will make you sick.

 

[Meditation guide]

I've heard some idiots actually say wearing a mask is a "communist lie" and that wearing one will make you sick.

All of this can be laid squarely on not have a single drop of sensible leadership. And that is killing people by the thousands, not to mention destroying our total economy.

Someone said this is the equivalent of the third world war and we are the losing side.

 

[shiv4674]

It will go out of control in Europe quickly as well and we'll end up in the same situation as the US. I have no desire to battle for survival in this new pandemic world. The constant fear about contracting a brutal disease and watching my loved ones suffer with it coupled with almost certain economic collapse and wide-spread poverty makes the decision to CTB an obvious choice. I just can't fathom how people still make plans for the future re having kids, studying a degree, building houses etc.

 

[TAW122]

Wow, this thread actually blew up and gotten a huge discussion going.

It will go out of control in Europe quickly as well and we'll end up in the same situation as the US. I have no desire to battle for survival in this new pandemic world. The constant fear about contracting a brutal disease and watching my loved ones suffer with it coupled with almost certain economic collapse and wide-spread poverty makes the decision to CTB an obvious choice. I just can't fathom how people still make plans for the future re having kids, studying a degree, building houses etc.

I assume you live in the EU and know the situation better than me (in the States). I do wonder, what makes you think that cases would surge in Europe? I know that in some countries when they had it bad in the Spring (late March/early April this year), they eventually got it under control. I know that a lot of places have reopened but I assume that most Europeans wear masks and take the pandemic more seriously than us Americans, unless I'm wrong?