More driven people more motivated to ctb

[lostmyself]

Does anyone believe that more type A personalities, driven, successful people are more likely to CTB? The recent suicides of the Stanford soccer player, former Miss USA..

 

[AnestheticVoid]

No. Not at all.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Does anyone believe that more type A personalities, driven, successful people are more likely to CTB? The recent suicides of the Stanford soccer player, former Miss USA..

No. I think successful peoples suicides get more attention, so it may seem like they CTB more.

 

[GentleJerk]

Hmm this is an interesting question. I don't know the answer, but if a study was done that proved they are more likely to ctb, I would believe it. They often have more to lose, lots of pressure, tend to need control, and such high standards that when things go wrong they can take it particularly hard.

I met a suicidal business man in one of my countries big cities a few yrs ago. Even though he still seemed well off, he was making a huge scene in the city's centre after losing millions of dollars and a massive amount of his investments. I grew up poor and didn't have a single dollar to my name at the time, but I was used to that, and had to be the one to try calming him down.

 

[LastFlowers]

No. I think successful peoples suicides get more attention, so it may seem like they CTB more.

That's exactly what happens.
They're the only ones anyone ever gives a damn about, and the news and media outlets know this.
We never hear about those who are isolated for years in their homes, drowning in a puddle of their own tears, never having so much as taken one step forward in life.
The whole phenomenon actually nauseates me.

Hmm this is an interesting question. I don't know the answer, but if a study was done that proved they are more likely to ctb, I would believe it. They often have more to lose, lots of pressure, tend to need control, and such high standards that when things go wrong they can take it particularly hard.

I met a suicidal business man in one of my countries big cities a few yrs ago. Even though he still seemed well off, he was making a huge scene in the city's centre after losing millions of dollars and a massive amount of his investments. I grew up poor and didn't have a single dollar to my name at the time, but I was used to that, and had to be the one to try calming him down.

I'm not sure how such a study would even be conducted without such a massive amount of factors weighing down the validity of any results.
They (successful people) also don't really have "more to lose" in the sense that plenty of other people kill themselves over never having gained a fraction of what others may have slip from their grasp in the future.
We are all held to the same standards, some are just closer to the sun-to the finish line, so they feel the heat of the day, it's more of an illusion that they have any more pressure on them, unless you mean pressure which is sourced from within.
Their loss isn't any greater than anyone else's in reality, you could argue that it's less so because at least they got to enjoy the success (often alongside the privileges that help lift people there) while it lasted, some people don't even get a chance at that much (which can just as easily lead someone to suicide).
All things are temporary when it comes down to it, even life itself.
(On a side note, I've noticed that the rare type of people who "make it" and work from the bottom with absolutely nothing, no help, no significant assisting factors on the journey..they rarely seem to ever commit suicide, unless there is an external factor like an unforeseen tragedy or the loss of their entire family. I guess it makes sense since they would have had to possess an enormous amount of resilience to push through every obstacle and closed door in their face, for that long, to get where they ended up. And so that adaptability & resolve are unlikely to suddenly start faltering out of nowhere.)

But if we're talking about "Type A" people who never actually reach success (or die trying) and may just be more upset about it than the next guy/gal in the same exact position, sure, it could certainly be possible that they will find any failure to be intolerable. (I think impulsivity comes into play a lot in these cases.)
I just wonder how much is really their nature (as far as an inherent facet of personality) rather than their environment and circumstances over the course of their lives which ends in being a more severe individual.

There's another possibility…"quit while you're ahead", some people get so far in life, have gotten so used to certain perks and benefits, that they may start to ruminate on the downward slope of living, they look down on it, they don't ever want to see themselves slide from the top, so they end things before that happens.

That's pretty fucked up actually that you had to be the one to calm that man down, when you had to grow up in poverty…Jesus, the irony, but you know, I see that a lot, so frequently those who are the worst off are expected to be the listening ear and the arm that outstretches to pat the back of those who have access to a far superior quality of life.
Perhaps you feel differently than I, but that sort of thing grates on my last nerve, I've been in a similar position, albeit over an extended period of time, and it was exhausting, like a pauper tending to and reassuring a King, and maybe I was able to put up with it because I was so familiarized with being miserable and used, but that can't be mistaken for me having an easier time, I just internalized until I was going to snap. Regrettably I think I only enabled the behavior of others by allowing them to whine and complain to an ill-suited audience.
I think society caters to certain subsets of people and when ever there is a lapse in this catering, they may very well lose their minds.
(Even your example sounds like the definition of a temper tantrum.)


*Sorry for using your comment to go on a few branching tangents lol, I think the opening post and details were a little broad, so I was trying to focus on different scenarios relating to the overall question.

 

[demuic]

I think everyone has a threshold of what they can endure, and that threshold is different for everyone and influenced by life experiences and biology, and once they have passed that threshold, they could CTB.

If anything, this particular type of person might be less likely to CTB, since they might be able to use the background of their past successes in life or driven nature to continue to push on no matter what. It most likely depends on the person.

 

[whatevs]

Haven't given much thought to this that you raised but now that I have considered it makes sense to me. I think there are many people like me, that are not really having a great time living and don't feel accomplished or driven at all, but neither feel energetic or motivated enough to kill themselves. So there might be a correlation between having more determination/easier time taking decisions and sticking with them and suicide.