Metoclopramide and N

[Johnjohn1]

I am super sensitive with my Levaquin antibiotic damage and Lyme disease. I get lots of weird reactions to certain medications. Is it absolutely necessary to take an antiemetic such as metoclopramide an hour before N? I know with SN it is critical but I was wondering if it is absolutely necessary with N? Thanks so much.

 

[Death is beautiful]

It is not necessary but desirable

 

[xcaramel]

From KNMP, antiemetic like meto is necessary because it is synergistic with N for accelerated gastric emptying and you don't want to throw up midway. I would recommend the routine where you take it in a stat dose 30min-1hr before ingesting N so that if you do experience side effects that are uncomfortable it won't matter because you will be dead or unconscious within 30min from N.

 

[Johnjohn1]

From KNMP, antiemetic like meto is necessary because it is synergistic with N for accelerated gastric emptying and you don't want to throw up midway. I would recommend the routine where you take it in a stat dose 30min-1hr before ingesting N so that if you do experience side effects that are uncomfortable it won't matter because you will be dead or unconscious within 30min from N.

Thank you so much for your reply. I appreciate your advice. Pardon my ignorance, but what does a stat dose mean? I have a prescription for metoclopramide downstairs. I'm not sure what the milligram amount of each pill is. I'm assuming just to take one pill?

 

[xcaramel]

Thank you so much for your reply. I appreciate your advice. Pardon my ignorance, but what does a stat dose mean? I have a prescription for metoclopramide downstairs. I'm not sure what the milligram amount of each pill is. I'm assuming just to take one pill?

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-protocol-regime-regimen-notes.27092/ Please see this. I am referring to the regime where you take 30mg of meto which is usually 3 of the 10mg pills. Keep in mind KNMP strongly suggests the one where you take meto 12hrs prior, 6hrs prior, then 1hr prior.

 

[Lifessocruel]

I think 1 bottle would be enough for an average person if taken with other benzos like vallium and pregabalin, pregabalin will enhance the N by shutting down the brain faster. difficult to know exactly how you will react to taking Metoclopramide, I tried a domperidone which is supposed to be less side effects but felt awful dizzy ect its important to come off antidepressants 3 or 4 days before taken N aswell.

 

[Johnjohn1]

I think 1 bottle would be enough for an average person if taken with other benzos like vallium and pregabalin, pregabalin will enhance the N by shutting down the brain faster. difficult to know exactly how you will react to taking Metoclopramide, I tried a domperidone which is supposed to be less side effects but felt awful dizzy ect its important to come off antidepressants 3 or 4 days before taken N aswell.

This is all great advice! I appreciate it. Why is it important to come off of antidepressants prior to taking N? Never heard of that precaution. Thanks

 

[Lifessocruel]

Well because antidepressants are stimulating the brain meaning it could lead to a prolonged coma and take longer. But will probably still work even if you did want to stay on them but just leave 24 hrs without being found.
I've also been screwed over by antibiotics! They changed your brain chemistry, destroy your gut and ruin your life. I has such a comfortable life upto until i got a nasty infection, then 4 rounds of antibiotics has lead to such suffering. I just wish I'd been abit more careful, . I have a really hard time accepting my fate, it's been suffering beyond comprehension.

 

[Johnjohn1]

Well because antidepressants are stimulating the brain meaning it could lead to a prolonged coma and take longer. But will probably still work even if you did want to stay on them but just leave 24 hrs without being found.
I've also been screwed over by antibiotics! They changed your brain chemistry, destroy your gut and ruin your life. I has such a comfortable life upto until i got a nasty infection, then 4 rounds of antibiotics has lead to such suffering. I just wish I'd been abit more careful, . I have a really hard time accepting my fate, it's been suffering beyond comprehension.

That makes a lot of sense. Antidepressants are stimulating. I am fairly thin and only weigh about 173 lb. I am 6 ft 3. I know you mentioned above that one bottle should be enough. I have two bottles so do you think two bottles are definitely sufficient?? I almost wish I would have ordered a third bottle. Thanks for any feedback

Well because antidepressants are stimulating the brain meaning it could lead to a prolonged coma and take longer. But will probably still work even if you did want to stay on them but just leave 24 hrs without being found.
I've also been screwed over by antibiotics! They changed your brain chemistry, destroy your gut and ruin your life. I has such a comfortable life upto until i got a nasty infection, then 4 rounds of antibiotics has lead to such suffering. I just wish I'd been abit more careful, . I have a really hard time accepting my fate, it's been suffering beyond comprehension.

I have a prescription for pregabalin. For the highest dose. I'm glad that will have an added effect.

Well because antidepressants are stimulating the brain meaning it could lead to a prolonged coma and take longer. But will probably still work even if you did want to stay on them but just leave 24 hrs without being found.
I've also been screwed over by antibiotics! They changed your brain chemistry, destroy your gut and ruin your life. I has such a comfortable life upto until i got a nasty infection, then 4 rounds of antibiotics has lead to such suffering. I just wish I'd been abit more careful, . I have a really hard time accepting my fate, it's been suffering beyond comprehension.

I am so sorry to read about your reaction to your antibiotics. That's what destroyed me as well. Was it Levaquin or Cipro that you took? These antibiotics have destroyed thousands of people

 

[Lifessocruel]

Two bottles will more than be enough! I wouldn't worry about that at all, if it was me I'd just do one with lots of benzos but that's a personal choice as i think after my various health problems my body is weaker so more likely 1 would do it. And yes it was in the same group of antibiotics as those.

 

[Johnjohn1]

Two bottles will more than be enough! I wouldn't worry about that at all, if it was me I'd just do one with lots of benzos but that's a personal choice as i think after my various health problems my body is weaker so more likely 1 would do it. And yes it was in the same group of antibiotics as those.

I'm so sorry what those antibiotics did to you! It's criminal that the drug companies Market then as a first-line therapy for routine infections. I'm glad you told me that two bottles will be more than enough. I am very thin at 173 lb or so. I am 6 ft 3.

 

[Lifessocruel]

Yeah it's absolutely disgusting that doctors get paid so much and then sometimes wrongly/overprescribed substances that will literally destroy our body and mind. without even mentioning the consequences of taking them. Makes me sick then we are suppose to applaud them during the Pandemic. well i say fuck them!

 

[Johnjohn1]

I completely agree. The doctor that gave me Levaquin told me to take Levaquin and that it won't hurt me. Never thought to research it and I regret that decision to this day

 

[Lifessocruel]

I was coping with the side affects and damage cause by them but it only takes one stressful event to sink the whole ship. whereas had i not had antibiotics to start with none of what followed would of happened. I had victory cruelly snatched away from my when I had accomplished so much. the only thing i believe in is bad luck.

 

[greyhound]

Did you notice any bad side effects when testing meto? I also have Lyme disease and I tried taking 10mg and didn't notice anything. 30mg is a much bigger dose though.

I remember you from a year ago when you were purchasing N. Are you now setting a date? I am in a similar boat to you health wise. I think my time is drawing near. It's hard with SI and family guilting me to stay alive though.

 

[Johnjohn1]

I haven't set a date yet. I'm just trying to persevere through each day hoping to get better. I've done all sorts of Therapies and so far nothing has helped. I was actually a good bit better than I am now several years ago but I ended up eating bad food that must have contained fluoroquinolone residue and other bad things that set off my pain syndrome. I've eaten very clean for the past year but only made small inroads. What are your worst symptoms from Lyme disease? Did you order N?

 

[greyhound]

Yeah I bought some N. I have tried so many treatments over 10 years for this disease. I have made some progress but in the end not gotten to a state that's livable. I have a decent amount of SI that is the only thing keeping me around at this point. But I feel like it's only a matter of time. I have some pain issues and general toxic feeling, like hungover 24/7. Also a lot of psych stuff which I think is from the Lyme like anxiety, depression.

 

[Johnjohn1]

Yeah I bought some N. I have tried so many treatments over 10 years for this disease. I have made some progress but in the end not gotten to a state that's livable. I have a decent amount of SI that is the only thing keeping me around at this point. But I feel like it's only a matter of time. I have some pain issues and general toxic feeling, like hungover 24/7. Also a lot of psych stuff which I think is from the Lyme like anxiety, depression.

I am in the same position. I am not at a stage where my life is livable. It is always very uncomfortable. How many bottles or grams of N did you buy? How much do you weigh if you don't mind me asking. I have 2 bottles. I hope it is enough. Each bottle is 6.5 grams

 

[greyhound]

I have 2 full bottles and only weigh about 155 lbs. I think it should be enough. It's hard because I have a family that I love. No dependants or significant other though. My day-day state is not utterly unbearable, but I also cannot see any long term future in this body. The infection is so deep rooted in certain areas that I don't think there is anything that will eliminate it.

So I'm just treading water at this point. It was nice enjoying the holidays with the family but also bittersweet. I will miss everyone but I feel like I need to move on.

I think the only way I'm going to be able to do it is semi-impulsively. Like find myself in the right mindset, pop the meto, head over to a hotel and then drink the N shortly. I don't think setting a date is going to work for me. I'm just scared to be honest.

 

[Johnjohn1]

I'm the exact same way. I don't think I could set a date rather it would just be more of an impulse. Just too scared. I know what you mean about being so hard on family. I'm not married and I don't have children which is good. But I have two sisters that are very supportive and loving. If it wasn't for them, it would make this decision so much easier.

2 bottles should be plenty for 155 lb. I weigh about 172 lb. I will go to a hotel as well. I will have all my signs made up and everything like that.
What state do you live in? I am in PA. Thanks.

I have 2 full bottles and only weigh about 155 lbs. I think it should be enough. It's hard because I have a family that I love. No dependants or significant other though. My day-day state is not utterly unbearable, but I also cannot see any long term future in this body. The infection is so deep rooted in certain areas that I don't think there is anything that will eliminate it.

So I'm just treading water at this point. It was nice enjoying the holidays with the family but also bittersweet. I will miss everyone but I feel like I need to move on.

I think the only way I'm going to be able to do it is semi-impulsively. Like find myself in the right mindset, pop the meto, head over to a hotel and then drink the N shortly. I don't think setting a date is going to work for me. I'm just scared to be honest.

If you ever do decide to follow through with it make sure to book a hotel room for two full days and tell the front desk staff that you don't want any maid service.

 

[Lifessocruel]

I think the same as you that I'll do it on inpulse rather than plan it i suppose thats the good thing about N it doesn't need alot of planning like SN, sorry to hear about your lymes disease problems. i developed ibs, overreactive thyroid and abnormal liver function after antibiotics, it was a nightmare i had terrible pains in the stomach every morning but when i switched to a vegan diet it made a big difference. eating well does help but unfortunately my depression got so bad that it won't ever properly recover although things are better than they were i feel like I'm on borrowed time.

 

[LostMyWorld]

I'm the exact same way. I don't think I could set a date rather it would just be more of an impulse. Just too scared. I know what you mean about being so hard on family. I'm not married and I don't have children which is good. But I have two sisters that are very supportive and loving. If it wasn't for them, it would make this decision so much easier.

2 bottles should be plenty for 155 lb. I weigh about 172 lb. I will go to a hotel as well. I will have all my signs made up and everything like that.
What state do you live in? I am in PA. Thanks.

If you ever do decide to follow through with it make sure to book a hotel room for two full days and tell the front desk staff that you don't want any maid service.

I'm close to PA…pm me.

 

[Johnjohn1]

I am Scared to be honest as well I think everybody naturally is. To me it's very very scary but it's also very very scary to keep existing the way I am. If you do end up doing it make sure that you are not lying completely flat in the bed. You want to make sure that the liquid goes all the way down and stays down so you want a prop yourself up a little bit with a couple pillows under your head. Not in a sitting position but in between sitting and lying down. I also read from somebody who's very knowledgeable on this board who told me that he is going to use a 96 gallon trash bag and tie it around his head immediately after drinking the liquid. He said this will cause asphyxiation in a couple hours but the nembutal will put you into a coma state within a few minutes. The reason for the bag over the head is that in case for some reason you survive in a coma state for long time which is very rare but if you do the lack of oxygen in a couple hours will cause death anyway. This way there's no chance of being found early and being possibly revived

 

[LostMyWorld]

Thank you for the information. How long is N suppose to take? Not sure about the bag but it makes sense.
I'm scared also but can't live like this. It would be so much easier to have someone to do it with. Even Just another person to be there, ya know?

 

[Johnjohn1]

You're exactly right. It would be so much easier to have somebody else in the hotel room to do it at the same time. It would be more calming pressure
Sorry about the typos with the word pressure. I meant to say it would be so much more calming to have somebody there alongside. I read a statistic that said 82% percent of people will pass away within an hour. And 96% of people will pass away within six hours.
There is a really smart guy on the other side who told me about using the bag over the head. A 96 gallon bag which is enough oxygen for several hours. He said the Heaven's Gate cult did this where all 39 people passed away using nembutal plus a large bag over their head secured with a string or a necktie. It doesn't have to be real tight.
Sorry about all my typos. I voice type and I forget to go back and proofread
If you were closer I would do it with you

 

[LostMyWorld]

You're exactly right. It would be so much easier to have somebody else in the hotel room to do it at the same time. It would be more calming pressure
Sorry about the typos with the word pressure. I meant to say it would be so much more calming to have somebody there alongside. I read a statistic that said 82% percent of people will pass away within an hour. And 96% of people will pass away within six hours.
There is a really smart guy on the other side who told me about using the bag over the head. A 96 gallon bag which is enough oxygen for several hours. He said the Heaven's Gate cult did this where all 39 people passed away using nembutal plus a large bag over their head secured with a string or a necktie. It doesn't have to be real tight.
Sorry about all my typos. I voice type and I forget to go back and proofread
If you were closer I would do it with you

No worries with typos, it's all good.
Then yeah the bag would be good for back once it last so long, I will have to look up the heaven gates people…sounds interesting. If you are in PA we could meet in the middle. Not easy to find someone on the east coast.

 

[Johnjohn1]

No worries with typos, it's all good.
Then yeah the bag would be good for back once it last so long, I will have to look up the heaven gates people…sounds interesting. If you are in PA we could meet in the middle. Not easy to find someone on the east coast.

What state are you located in? I can't remember what your condition is? Is it lyme?

 

[Johnjohn1]

I'm by the Wv/md state line. Takes me 30 mins to cross into PA

Okay. I forgot that I should be sending you a private message.

 

[Cantbereal]

I think 1 bottle would be enough for an average person if taken with other benzos like vallium and pregabalin, pregabalin will enhance the N by shutting down the brain faster. difficult to know exactly how you will react to taking Metoclopramide, I tried a domperidone which is supposed to be less side effects but felt awful dizzy ect its important to come off antidepressants 3 or 4 days before taken N aswell.

Why antidepressants?? What about oxy?