Discussion Method vs Reason

[dominodux]

A while ago an article was realeased in Italy. A boy was found dead by his parents in their car in the garage.

The boy closed all the car vents, and opened two big tanks of argon inside, successiful and i guess, quite painless.

After days his family, after checking the boys computer and find out that he was searching resources of how ctb on web, they contacted both press and police and vented lot about how coult be possible to find so easy in the web resources about suicide and that informations should not readily available. I read all their interview an i ended up quite disappointed by this:

They strongly focused on the METHOD rather than trying to focus on the REASON why their boy decided to ctb, that may vary from mental disorders, pain, familiy related problems, personal problems, etc.etc.

I was quite angry that they blamed the main problem of their loss was the fact that their boy got readily a method to ctb fast and peacefully, instead trying to find out what was wrong in the life of their boy.

From my point of view, trying to lock methods, may just trick the people and force them to ctb in more brutal and inappropriate ways, with higher chance of failure and permanent damage that may increase the tragedy of their already complicated lifes.

Thats the stupidity of many families or, as said "When the hand point at the moon, people look at the finger".

 

[noctiva]

I think that's the general consensus in these situations. Blame the method and the easy access to it, make it seem like it's a spontaneous, impulsive and insensible act.
The people left behind need to deal with the why, and it's tough to look at the why. The closer you were to the person that committed suicide, the higher the chances that you had at least some kind of forewarning you didn't want to see and possibly also some kind of 'fault' in the act. Looking at that and admitting that are insanely tough. Especially when the shock is still very fresh.

The sensible thing would of course be to look at the reason, to analyze what went wrong. But especially for parents, partners and very close friends, that's tough. They have to admit that they have made mistakes, too. And people don't like to look at that, they don't want that kind of guilt. Usually everybody tries their hardest, in the only way they know how. Even abusive parents (even physically abusive parents!) think that they are doing their best, preparing their child for the cruelties of the world. So they think, and want to desperately believe, that they had no part in it, that it was all someone else's fault, such as the person handing out the information online or the person selling the Argon tanks. They also need to believe it was an impulsive and irrational act, because otherwise you would have to be worried for anyone and everyone out there, who could be plotting their death right now.

The ignorance I think is needed to deal with the loss, to protect your own mind from going nuts over the 'why' question. Once the loss has been worked through, and the healing process has begun, then questions such as 'why' can be addressed. But it takes time.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Again people who don´t suffer from every day existence ignorantly want to take away painless methods to FORCE people to stay alive against their own will just because it´s what THEY want it´s selfish,

 

[Pikashuu83]

If a person is advocating for Method, over reason, it's a doomed cause, like the METHOD won't come into question if REASON didn't exist.

Plus such people tend to be the person who push the people who CTB