Mental health awareness campaigns are all about narcissistic self promotion and less about doing meaningful change to help people

[FireFox]

I live in the UK and as time has gone I have noticed these mental health awareness campaigns done by the charities such as Mind, the Royal Family, celebrities, social media influencers and various others groups telling people to seek help and how " it's OK not be OK" is nothing but self promotion and feel good activism

The problem with the UK is we have all these celebrities and influencers going on TV, making BBC, ITV News documentaries or writing glossy magazine or newspaper columns about how therapy helped them and how we all need to reach out for help. ITV mental health documentaries and campaigns like Get Britain Talking are just so hypocritical because over the years ITV over the years have produced shows humiliating vunlerable members of the public for entertainment and ratings. The judges on X factor allowed contestants who can not sing to participate in many stages of the show and have the nation laugh at them. Love Island has had many espiodes of women and men looking for love being humiliated on national TV. Some of the contestants of the show have gone on to kill themselves and others have reported severe decline in their mental health due to relentless social media bullying from the public. ITV have been part of the problem and now they want to act holier than thou.

These celebrities and influencers have easy acess to private therapists while members of the public face long waiting times on the NHS. A person or family on low income will not risk spending £50 or more on a private therapist while struggling to afford heating and household bills. The mental health care system in the past acted discriminatory towards minorities, the disabled and other marginalised communities. Just because someone had a nice therapist not everyone has that but mental advocates overlook that.

There are many socio economic factors that led people to suicide and prevent others from seeking medical help. Mental health awareness campaigns do not want to openly discuss these difficult and uncomfortable issues and work to actively find solutions to fix them. I have seen plenty of examples of people using and judging mentally ill people to make themselves feel better about their own lives.

 

[Hotsackage]

In the end we all will vanish, so good luck to them enjoying being healthy while they can

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

You make a really good point how hypocritical it is. How many reality TV shows achieve anything except humiliation or heavy public scrutiny for the people involved? Yet, the same media corps keep pushing them out while talking about mental health, lol.

Why the fuck is something like 24 hours in A&E allowed to be on the air when most of the people on that show are having a moment of weakness and now everyone in the world knows their problems? Or something like naked attraction where they reveal where the people live, their names, and occupations, all while they're butt ass naked and having someone criticise their dick size or something equally personal.

I'm sure being roasted on national TV does not help anybody's mental health. Yet the British public loves a spectacle where someone is seen as strange, peculiar, or mental. All of these let's talk about it campaigns are for people with very common, every day struggles, they don't show the "ugly" side of mental illnesses that no one wants to acknowledge it hear about.

Because a lot of struggles may be seen as completely foreign and strange to "normal" people. The staff who are supposed to be helpful and caring laugh at me having PTSD, because they don't understand it, they have a very surface level understanding of "mental" suffering, where you have a few sad feelings, then a brief conversation and suddenly you spring back to normal. They don't want to talk about autism, or schizophrenia, or bipolar, or PTSD, or OCD, or suicide, or anything scary.

Yes, topics like this will make some people uncomfortable. But how is anything ever going to be fixed or improved upon in any way if no one confronts harsh or uncomfortable truths? It's easier to do surface level feel good campaigns than raise money for actual neuroscience research.

 

[UKscotty]

The UK is so pro suicide and anti mental health the government should be tried for crimes against humanity.

They actively cut suicide prevention schemes, close down mental health units and then take away all backup support. They are beyond evil.

 

[derpyderpins]

Lol I remember mental health month in law school. What a fucking joke. A pamphlet saying "don't let your grades stress you out, they aren't the end-all-be-all!" In a profession where pretty much every good job the school pushes at you for their reputation requires you be top 10% of your class.

 

[Forveleth]

US here and it's basically the same thing. It's all a bunch of virtue signaling so that celebrities or companies or the government can technically say that they give two shits about people when all of their actions say otherwise. My work sends out company-wide "wellness" emails once a week while simultaneously forcing people to work gross amounts of overtime, always understaffed, actively blocking promotions and raises, taking away even the tiniest of staff incentives, and has very obvious corruption at every level of the organization. It's pathetic and makes me want to ctb just to spit in their face (I have different reasons to ctb, but I would love to add my name to the statistics of employees that ctb while working there.).

Lol I remember mental health month in law school. What a fucking joke. A pamphlet saying "don't let your grades stress you out, they aren't the end-all-be-all!" In a profession where pretty much every good job the school pushes at you for their reputation requires you be top 10% of your class.

I love how all major universities do this, where they say that grades don't matter and students should relax, but yet they load you up with credit hours and homework and set these restrictions that you have to maintain these grades for scholarships or to stay in your program, et cetera, and then they cut funding for all of the student health services. Then if a student does ctb, there's this big public statement about, "Oh, we don't know why they did this. We had so much available. We always encourage students to take their mental health very seriously." Oh, please.

 

[escape_from_hell]

Beware those that treat morality as something like a piece of jewelry or a military medal to adorn.
Facades are put on things to mask what they lack. The real thing needs no cosmetic camouflage.

If you are a child, beware those offering tender care as representatives of god.
If you are a victim, beware those claiming to be advocates.
If you are a minority, pray you don't need the help of a career activist in an emergency.
If you pay someone to care, they do not care.
For predators hungry for the vulnerable, pretending to be a defender of the vulnerable is just called "making dinner."
"Wolf in sheep's clothing."
If you are hungry, well, you are hungry; it speaks for itself.
If you are suicidal, well, you are suicidal; that's how much the universe cares.
Platitudes are platitudes.

The media outlets 'fighting for mental health' feed off of pain and anxiety. Celebrities 'fighting for mental health' make a mockery of the everyman's suffering for status management.

What does treating suicidality look like? In the United States, it looks like having the police manhandle a distraught person, dump them at a hospital like one dumps a camp latrine shit bucket over a cliff, incarcerate them for days to weeks among potentially dangerous people, give them mandatory 'medications' with punishment for refusal or attempted escapes, have a caring therapist say "oh, that must be awful" "it gets better" "I'm here for you, open up" etc., have a psychiatrist try to maximize billables, be released only when you are scared straight "smile or else motherfucker!" and then receive a massive crippling medical bill.
State of the art scientific medical marvels.

 

[halleyscomet]

I hate how tv puts vulnerable people on display, promising to help them and then making their situation much worse, by broadcasting them to be made fun of. Like Jeremy Kyle or Dr Phil.

 

[untothedepths]

Isn't it precious? The one thing preventing others from getting adequate care is money and accessibility. I could imagine a place where people can work and be employed as therapists and psychologists and have their schooling paid. I can see how there would be enough of them, paid well enough, to help everyone, no matter their income. That is a world I can easily imagine, because it would benefit everyone. In the event there is not enough mental health clinicians you just work to make it possible. The fact that the schooling and licensing would be free would be more than enough of an endeavor. It's not that hard.

But whats getting in the way of that? People who need to make assloads of money and a society who somehow worships them thinking they'll be just like the elite, or believing we cannot live without them having hoards of wealth. Or maybe, just maybe, it's the fact that we have money in the first place instead of trying to create a world where it is not a matter of if people have their symbolic pieces of paper but the actual, real need of adequate, available, quality mental health. I guess I'm a commie even though I've never picked up a single manifesto or know anything about it, but yeah, the reason why we don't do it or do better is honestly really fucking pathetic.

 

[derpyderpins]

"Oh, we don't know why they did this. We had so much available. We always encourage students to take their mental health very seriously." Oh, please.

This shit also gets me. "We have resources available. You can have one hour therapy sessions!" Bitch the whole problem is that I'm overworked and have no time to rest. How about give me an extra hour off?

 

[damyon]

Look at what people are doing consistently instead of what they say occasionally.

Talk is cheap; it's merely appearance. But appearance doesn't reveal true quality or intentions.

 

[Meteora]

People just don t care. They do such campaigns to feel like a good human being, someone who helps. It s completely egoistic. If you don't fit their imagination of a person with mental health issues.... then you re screwed cause they won t fucking care (how sick that you have to prove your suffering when yet nobody is interested).
People are full of double standards.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

I hate how tv puts vulnerable people on display, promising to help them and then making their situation much worse, by broadcasting them to be made fun of. Like Jeremy Kyle or Dr Phil.

On the brightside, at least those shitty shows would go on to be a big inspiration for the Thy Mission music video, lol.

But seriously though, those shows tendency to exploit the mentally ill, the poor, and BIPOC (especially black people) is just disgusting. People like to advocate for mental health until they are actually forced to confront their own biases and the systematic issues at play that lead to the increases we see in mental illness, along with the discrimination many mentally ill folk go through. The amount of times I'll hear people talk about how we need to care for those who are mentally ill until they get to a disorder that is extremely stigmatized, like NDP or ASPD, until they get to the discussion on how our mental healthcare system fails the people of colour and the poor, until we have to talk about how the capitalism contributes to both the lack of accessibility to mental health resources and increasing rates of mental illness that we are seeing, etc. Then they suddenly don't care anymore.

I always roll my eyes when I see shit like the Bell Let's talk campaign, as though they aren't the ones keeping prisoners, a disproportionate amount of whom are mentally ill, from being able to call their families. I'll see people online talking referring to self-harm scars as "battle scars" or some bullshit like that because they want to make themselves look good. Some transphobic dumb ass decided to do some shitty rap on suicide, as though somehow his harmful rhetoric doesn't contribute to the high suicide rate amongst trans people. Just like with people advocating against racism, it's all performative bullshit. No one wants to have to confront the hard stuff. They just want to feel good about themselves for two seconds before moving on with their lives.

 

[FireFox]

I hate how tv puts vulnerable people on display, promising to help them and then making their situation much worse, by broadcasting them to be made fun of. Like Jeremy Kyle or Dr Phil.

@halleyscomet Dr Phil is horrible shameless man last years espiode with julia wendell, the woman claiming to be Madeleine Mccann is the worst thing he has ever done. Julia wendall is a polish woman in her 20s who believes she is the missing British girl Madeleine Mccann and wanted to live with the Mccans. This woman has a history of claiming to be other people's missing children and causing distress to families.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...deleine-McCann-receives-DNA-test-results.html

The episode was so disturbing. Julia claimed her parents in Poland where not her parents and had "evidence" she was kidnapped and trafficked. Every child in Poland just like the UK has a special book which lists all their vaccinations and their healthcare journey generally. Julia told Dr phil that she found it suspicious the first 6 pages of her child healthcare book were blank. Julia told Dr phil she found it suspicious her mum never showed her birth certificate. These things can be explained.

Julia looks absolutely nothing like Madeleine mccann. Madeleine has a key lock appearance on her Iris due to her condition called coloboma. Julia eyes doesn't have that. Julia age doesn't match Madeleine . If Madeleine Mccann was found today she would 19 years old Julia is 22 years old.

Dr Phil asked the audience if they believe the girl is Madeleine Mccann and the audience all said NO.
Dr Phil even brought a psychic who was listening to all of Julia's bizarre theories on why Julia thinks she is Madeleine Mccann without question.

Dr Phil did DNA on Julia. The DNA test confirmed she is Polish and has Lithuanian and Russian ancestry. When it came to her parents her mother and father are her biological parents.

That episode caused severe distress to Julia's Family and also to the Mccans who have had to deal with the publicity of the episode. There were idiots on social media that actaully believed she was Madeleine Mccann.

 

[Euthanza]

The UK is so pro suicide and anti mental health the government should be tried for crimes against humanity.

They actively cut suicide prevention schemes, close down mental health units and then take away all backup support. They are beyond evil.

How come UK gov pro suicide? do they serve euthanasia or assisted suicide?

I freaking hate crab mentality of suicide prevention, duh ... they are the cause we are still struggling in this dark corner forum away from society in general, otherwise probably most of us may have found peace or continue life optionally.
But not so much about "sterling"mental health, might do better though

 

[FireFox]

Lol I remember mental health month in law school. What a fucking joke. A pamphlet saying "don't let your grades stress you out, they aren't the end-all-be-all!" In a profession where pretty much every good job the school pushes at you for their reputation requires you be top 10% of your class.

@derpyderpins what your law school meant was "if you have a rich family with connections in law then grades aren't the end all be all"

When I was studying law at undergraduate level my law lecturer told the class of her experiences studying law. My law teacher had a classmate who had British aristocracy and she never ever used to work hard in class because she was going to get a job anyway in a law firm due to her privileged background.

She graduated with low grades and still got a job in a lawfirm due her privileged background

 

[Steve]

The UK is so pro suicide and anti mental health the government should be tried for crimes against humanity.

They actively cut suicide prevention schemes, close down mental health units and then take away all backup support. They are beyond evil.

Wrong. This is entirely the correct approach. These mental health services are responsible for no more than 51% of suicides in my country by poisoning them with prescription medication.

 

[FireFox]

How come UK gov pro suicide? do they serve euthanasia or assisted suicide?

I freaking hate crab mentality of suicide prevention, duh ... they are the cause we are still struggling in this dark corner forum away from society in general, otherwise probably most of us may have found peace or continue life optionally.
But not so much about "sterling"mental health, might do better though

@Euthanza Euthanasia and assisted suicide is illegal in the UK but majority of the public support assisted suicide for terminally ill people mainly grannies and grandpas who dominate the assisted suicide cases in the UK and campaigns. It's the truth.

Most campaigns for assisted suicide legalisation campaigners want it for terminally ill people look at the membership of the UK'S largest assisted dying lobby Dignity in Dying majority of its membership are terminally ill sufferers and their families lobbying for change. On the website their case studies of their members are just older people.

Dignity In Dying believe only in assisted suicide for terminally ill people and refused to support a tragic case of Tony Nicklinson who suffered from locked in Syndrome and went to court to try and get euthanasia approved in this case.

Keir Starmer said if Labour get into power tassisted suicide will have a vote in parliament. Starmer is only talking about assisted dying now because a famous UK celebrity Dame Esther Rantzen, the nice lady who founded Childline has joined the organisation
Digntas last year and wants to go down the route of Assisted suicide if her lung cancer worsens. Rantzen fears her family might be prosecuted for helping her go go Digntas and has criticised the unfairness of UK laws. Esther Rantzen wants assisted suicide for terminally ill people

Starmer has joined Esther Rantzen campaign for assisted suicide. Starmer is not a radical politician he will not expand it for other groups. Starmer is an opportunist he goes along with what is popular and follows the crowd.
https://news.sky.com/story/sir-keir...n-assisted-dying-if-he-wins-election-13093411

On the brightside, at least those shitty shows would go on to be a big inspiration for the Thy Mission music video, lol.

But seriously though, those shows tendency to exploit the mentally ill, the poor, and BIPOC (especially black people) is just disgusting. People like to advocate for mental health until they are actually forced to confront their own biases and the systematic issues at play that lead to the increases we see in mental illness, along with the discrimination many mentally ill folk go through. The amount of times I'll hear people talk about how we need to care for those who are mentally ill until they get to a disorder that is extremely stigmatized, like NDP or ASPD, until they get to the discussion on how our mental healthcare system fails the people of colour and the poor, until we have to talk about how the capitalism contributes to both the lack of accessibility to mental health resources and increasing rates of mental illness that we are seeing, etc. Then they suddenly don't care anymore.

I always roll my eyes when I see shit like the Bell Let's talk campaign, as though they aren't the ones keeping prisoners, a disproportionate amount of whom are mentally ill, from being able to call their families. I'll see people online talking referring to self-harm scars as "battle scars" or some bullshit like that because they want to make themselves look good. Some transphobic dumb ass decided to do some shitty rap on suicide, as though somehow his harmful rhetoric doesn't contribute to the high suicide rate amongst trans people. Just like with people advocating against racism, it's all performative bullshit. No one wants to have to confront the hard stuff. They just want to feel good about themselves for two seconds before moving on with their lives.

@EvisceratedJester it's so true everyone is happy to post on social media about caring and taking seriously depression, anxiety and eating disorders but when it comes to bipolar, Schizophrenia, psychosis and personality disorders everyone runs away and keeps quiet.

We never hear about Schizophrenia awareness month

Most mental health campaigns are centred on the mild and moderate cases whereas severe cases are more challenging and involve long term support by the system which people don't want to acknowledge.

The UK is so pro suicide and anti mental health the government should be tried for crimes against humanity.

They actively cut suicide prevention schemes, close down mental health units and then take away all backup support. They are beyond evil.

@UKscotty The British government want to tax everyone till the point of insanity and suicide.

Starmer has pledged labour will introduce a vote on assisted suicide if Labour get in power.
If assisted suicide ever gets legal in the UK the government will find ways to tax it and make money from it.

A government can make money from assisted suicide if gets legalised it will be because of money.

● Private healthcare contracts providing services. The Conservatives love giving contracts to finds Labour will do the same too. Wes Streeting has multiple healthcare contracts with private and he will be the next health Secretary if Starmer wins.

● Suicide tourism for people who want to die. Businesses can create nice holiday packages before a person has a send off. I can see certain UK cities and towns cashing in.

US here and it's basically the same thing. It's all a bunch of virtue signaling so that celebrities or companies or the government can technically say that they give two shits about people when all of their actions say otherwise. My work sends out company-wide "wellness" emails once a week while simultaneously forcing people to work gross amounts of overtime, always understaffed, actively blocking promotions and raises, taking away even the tiniest of staff incentives, and has very obvious corruption at every level of the organization. It's pathetic and makes me want to ctb just to spit in their face (I have different reasons to ctb, but I would love to add my name to the statistics of employees that ctb while working there.).

I love how all major universities do this, where they say that grades don't matter and students should relax, but yet they load you up with credit hours and homework and set these restrictions that you have to maintain these grades for scholarships or to stay in your program, et cetera, and then they cut funding for all of the student health services. Then if a student does ctb, there's this big public statement about, "Oh, we don't know why they did this. We had so much available. We always encourage students to take their mental health very seriously." Oh, please.

@Forveleth The workplaces that constantly preach about mental wellness are the worst places to work. In the UK a major mental health charity called Mind was embroiled in a public bullying scandal that took place in one of its branches.

The employees who reported the abuse were hounded by management and fired from their jobs. One ex employee even took the employer to court and was awarded thousands in compensation at the employment tribunal.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/mind-support-worker-bullied-out-23345228
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales...tion,and continuously improving our practices.

We even had cases in the UK of domestic violence charities bullying its staff and neglecting its vunlerable residents who live in the domestic violence refuges

Domestic violence charity staff at Hestia accused of bullying

Some domestic violence charity staff are accused of bullying and neglecting vulnerable residents.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[FireFox]

Wrong. This is entirely the correct approach. These mental health services are responsible for no more than 51% of suicides in my country by poisoning them with prescription medication.

@Steve let's not forget negligence of its vunlerable patients under their care. In the UK their have been cases of young teenagers dying in mental health hospitals because the staff didn't care to watch them wheh they were supposed too.

There was even a case in the UK where nurses on active duty we all too busy on their phones, gossiping and vaping instead of watching the patients and a young suicidal man they were supposed to be checking up on regularly died

Nurses filmed vaping and on phones as patient prepared to take life

The CCTV has been released by a coroner in order to illustrate the level of neglect Bren suffered

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

You make a really good point how hypocritical it is. How many reality TV shows achieve anything except humiliation or heavy public scrutiny for the people involved? Yet, the same media corps keep pushing them out while talking about mental health, lol.

Why the fuck is something like 24 hours in A&E allowed to be on the air when most of the people on that show are having a moment of weakness and now everyone in the world knows their problems? Or something like naked attraction where they reveal where the people live, their names, and occupations, all while they're butt ass naked and having someone criticise their dick size or something equally personal.

I'm sure being roasted on national TV does not help anybody's mental health. Yet the British public loves a spectacle where someone is seen as strange, peculiar, or mental. All of these let's talk about it campaigns are for people with very common, every day struggles, they don't show the "ugly" side of mental illnesses that no one wants to acknowledge it hear about.

Because a lot of struggles may be seen as completely foreign and strange to "normal" people. The staff who are supposed to be helpful and caring laugh at me having PTSD, because they don't understand it, they have a very surface level understanding of "mental" suffering, where you have a few sad feelings, then a brief conversation and suddenly you spring back to normal. They don't want to talk about autism, or schizophrenia, or bipolar, or PTSD, or OCD, or suicide, or anything scary.

Yes, topics like this will make some people uncomfortable. But how is anything ever going to be fixed or improved upon in any way if no one confronts harsh or uncomfortable truths? It's easier to do surface level feel good campaigns than raise money for actual neuroscience research.

@KuriGohan&Kamehameha You deserved so much better. The staff who laughed at you for having PTSD are just cruel, mocking someone's suffering is just so evil. As a society we need to talk more openly about abuse and poor treatment people suffer from by hospital staff in mental health hospitals and settings.

Too many people think therapists and hospital staff are nice people like on the TV or the ones celebrities use but the truth is a there are people who work in healthcare who have no compassion for human suffering and not nice people to be around. I have a family member who is a qualified nurse and she is a very horrible person. This family member is emotionally and psychologically abusive to her family members.

 

[Little_Suzy]

The goal of a public mental health campaign is not medical treatment, but rather public awareness. Many people don't realize they have a medical condition, such as psychological trauma, until they hear someone else's story.

You might think a mental health campaign falls short, but almost every type of law governs mental health at the federal, state, and county levels, making it impossible to cover everything.

A support system can be a valuable resource, but only we can truly advocate for our own mental health. It is our responsibility to learn about every legal resource available to us, as well as disability law, so that we can access them. You would be surprised at how much you are capable of accomplishing on your own with the proper pipeline. Don't be discouraged!

 

[FireFox]

Beware those that treat morality as something like a piece of jewelry or a military medal to adorn.
Facades are put on things to mask what they lack. The real thing needs no cosmetic camouflage.

If you are a child, beware those offering tender care as representatives of god.
If you are a victim, beware those claiming to be advocates.
If you are a minority, pray you don't need the help of a career activist in an emergency.
If you pay someone to care, they do not care.
For predators hungry for the vulnerable, pretending to be a defender of the vulnerable is just called "making dinner."
"Wolf in sheep's clothing."
If you are hungry, well, you are hungry; it speaks for itself.
If you are suicidal, well, you are suicidal; that's how much the universe cares.
Platitudes are platitudes.

The media outlets 'fighting for mental health' feed off of pain and anxiety. Celebrities 'fighting for mental health' make a mockery of the everyman's suffering for status management.

What does treating suicidality look like? In the United States, it looks like having the police manhandle a distraught person, dump them at a hospital like one dumps a camp latrine shit bucket over a cliff, incarcerate them for days to weeks among potentially dangerous people, give them mandatory 'medications' with punishment for refusal or attempted escapes, have a caring therapist say "oh, that must be awful" "it gets better" "I'm here for you, open up" etc., have a psychiatrist try to maximize billables, be released only when you are scared straight "smile or else motherfucker!" and then receive a massive crippling medical bill.
State of the art scientific medical marvels.

@escape_from_hell I wish mental health charities stop using celebrities in their campaigns because celebrities live in a world of privilege and completely out of touch with the public struggles.

I feel sorry for you Americans having to hear Our Prince Harry give constant talks on mental health. I tell people Harry is worse than Meghan because he is a narcissistic and refuses to take responsibility for his awful behaviour. Harry is the worst poster child to use to promote therapy.

Before he met Meghan Harry has always been a terrible person the Royal Family PR machine was so excellent in portraying him to the world as this loveable party boy "peoples Prince image" and the nation fell for it hook line and sinker. There are so many examples of Harry's lack of care for other people's feelings long before he met Meghan.

Harry was allowed to get with his arsehole behaviour for so long all because everyone felt "sorry" for him because his mother died when he was 12, he is not the only one to lose a parent so young. Harry knew this so kept taking advantage of the Royal Family and the British public sympathy and love. Harry was so used to getting his way and never knowing responsibility this is why he is the entilted piece of shit that he is today.

Prince harry uses mental health as a platform to assert his own sense of superiority and to show how he is "different" to his family

The goal of a public mental health campaign is not medical treatment, but rather public awareness. Many people don't realize they have a medical condition, such as psychological trauma, until they hear someone else's story.

You might think a mental health campaign falls short, but almost every type of law governs mental health at the federal, state, and county levels, making it impossible to cover everything.

A support system can be a valuable resource, but only we can truly advocate for our own mental health. It is our responsibility to learn about every legal resource available to us, as well as disability law, so that we can access them. You would be surprised at how much you are capable of accomplishing on your own with the proper pipeline. Don't be discouraged!

@Little_Suzy Thanks I have so many bad experiences from people who promote mental health awareness which is why I do think people who participate in mental health awareness campaigns are ulimately narcissistic and centred on self promotion.

The first time I tried to give life a chance and took a break from Sanctioned Sucide it ended up not well. I decided to rejoin an online depression support community I previously belonged too and I found myself builled out of a depression support community. The moderator and owner of the site was one if those people very active in mental health campaigns online.

In the depression group I mentioned on the forum as truthfully as possible that sometimes i wished I died of covid19 because I don't really deserve to be alive in this world. The moderator of the site she attacked me and she said my comments are "insulting " and she talked about how she has been shielding during the pandemic due to her disabilities. Another site member she was the biggest bully and she criticised me on the site. She brought up about her cousin died of covid19 and didn't get to say goodbye. She called me " selfish " and said i didn't "understand "what i was talking about. She is in her 40s and also she said " I wish I was young, had a law degree and a caring family " She attacked me on the site the moderator along with all the site members sided with her as she builled me. I ended up being accused of attacking her when I tried to defend myself. The whole community turned against me.

The same month on the site when I wrote a post about how if you kill yourself people seem to care more about you and really appreciate you than if you were alive. I made reference to the suicide of a famous UK celebrity who killed herself who got loads of massive public outpouring of love. The moderator responded with hostility and called my comments "offensive". She imposed restrictions on my posts which were every post i wrote had to be approve.

She was soo rude and mean when I decided to leave the site. This experience led me back to Sanctioned Suicide.

The moderator died last year people were saying how she was a nice person who helped so many people but to me she will always be the woman who builled me at most vunlerable time in my life along with her legion of supporters.

I have had so many experiences of mental health advocates judging me and blaming me to make themselves feel better about their own lives

 

[Meteora]

To the OP: I agree 100%.... this fact breakes our necks, I guess.

 

[Steve]

The goal of a public mental health campaign is not medical treatment, but rather public awareness. Many people don't realize they have a medical condition, such as psychological trauma, until they hear someone else's story.

You might think a mental health campaign falls short, but almost every type of law governs mental health at the federal, state, and county levels, making it impossible to cover everything.

A support system can be a valuable resource, but only we can truly advocate for our own mental health. It is our responsibility to learn about every legal resource available to us, as well as disability law, so that we can access them. You would be surprised at how much you are capable of accomplishing on your own with the proper pipeline. Don't be discouraged!

Wrong. The goal of a public mental health campaign is precisely to get people into the psych's office for the benefit of pharma. Because most countries have laws forbidding active marketing of specific drugs (e.g. anti-depressants) but do not have laws around the promotion of a certain disease (e.g. depression).

You can watch this debate by Intelligence Squared.

It's a marketing tactic called "astroturfing".

We already know that the diseases in the DSM are nonsense and that the pills actually drive people to take their own lives.

 

[thenamingofcats]

Nothing attracts narcissists like the mental health field. There's the stereotype of doctors as having the highest rate of narcissism but I think it's psychologists and their adherents (including their most devoted patients).

 

[Meteora]

Damn... I felt so alone with this view, so incredibly alone cause with whoever I tried to talk about this topic, vehemently denies it.
It causes so much powerlessness and aggression in me.

And you guys just name it
@FireFox and @all.
With that said, we have to start building those bombs for all these hypocritical organisations.

 

[FireFox]

Nothing attracts narcissists like the mental health field. There's the stereotype of doctors as having the highest rate of narcissism but I think it's psychologists and their adherents (including their most devoted patients).

@thenamingofcats The healthcare profession also has individuals who are not nice people and shouldn't be around vunlerable people. I have a relative who is a qualified nurse and lives in USA. She is a horrible self centred person with no compassion for other people's suffering, she has gotten even worse since her narcissistic adult daughter died.

She told a woman who was severely depressed that her pet dog died to "get over it" She told the woman that is "only a dog" and brings up her daughters death. This woman I think was someone at work

In the UK we have had distrubing court cases where hospital staff have been abusing patients in their care.

 

[Little_Suzy]

Wrong. The goal of a public mental health campaign is precisely to get people into the psych's office for the benefit of pharma. Because most countries have laws forbidding active marketing of specific drugs (e.g. anti-depressants) but do not have laws around the promotion of a certain disease (e.g. depression).

You can watch this debate by Intelligence Squared.

It's a marketing tactic called "astroturfing".

We already know that the diseases in the DSM are nonsense and that the pills actually drive people to take their own lives.

While the promotion of psychiatric medications is legal in the United States, you're right, it is clearly part of the well-oiled mental health grift.

Raising awareness about issues such as childhood abuse, substance abuse, domestic violence, sexual violence, and human trafficking enables women to acknowledge the stigma they face while their perpetrators remain unscathed.

Victim-shaming and blame-shifting tactics have suppressed these crimes for far too long, contributing to the trauma-trigger cycle. Their struggles are not their fault; these women suffer from severe psychological disorders, including PTSD.

The government should set aside all available funds to ensure that abused women receive the necessary care. Organizations that receive grants on their behalf are held accountable. This is where I choose to focus my efforts.

 

[FireFox]

Damn... I felt so alone with this view, so incredibly alone cause with whoever I tried to talk about this topic, vehemently denies it.
It causes so much powerlessness and aggression in me.

And you guys just name it
@FireFox and @all.
With that said, we have to start building those bombs for all these hypocritical organisations.

@Meteora Actually I used to feel so alone in this view too.

I used to belong to this depression support community and the admin of the site was soo hostile when i argued that UK mental health awareness campaigns telling people to seek help for mental illness is ineffective because the mental health care system is inaccessible to the majority of the general public.

The moderator got so defensive and disagreed with me saying how awareness and speaking up is important. She was unwilling to listen and have a civilised debate.

How can people can't better if there is NO help.

 

[Little_Suzy]

@thenamingofcats The healthcare profession also has individuals who are not nice people and shouldn't be around vunlerable people. I have a relative who is a qualified nurse and lives in USA. She is a horrible self centred person with no compassion for other people's suffering, she has gotten even worse since her narcissistic adult daughter died.

She told a woman who was severely depressed that her pet dog died to "get over it" She told the woman that is "only a dog" and brings up her daughters death. This woman I think was someone at work

In the UK we have had distrubing court cases where hospital staff have been abusing patients in their care.

That is horrible, and some believe they can care for mentally ill people because they are the go-to person for "good advice."

I've heard a lot, but don't let it stop you from getting help. I prefer health care at home, which may not be available everywhere. Is this an option in the UK?

Even the most caring nurses can become jaded due to staff shortages and workplace exploitation. Because mental illness is incurable, the situation is unlikely to improve any time soon.

Seeking health care carries a significant emotional cost. We are truly at a disadvantage, which fuels hopelessness and suicidal thoughts. Please take care of your emotional health.

 

[Steve]

There is no such thing as "mentally ill" unless you have psychosis and are so impaired that you are a babbling mess. The fact is anti-depressants are no better than placebo and anti-anxiety medication cause severe withdrawal that cause people to take their own lives. The entire categories of depressive and anxiety "disorders" are just a ruse to peddle these pills.