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dropintheocean

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Dec 12, 2021
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Is swizerland only country that offers medically assisted dying / voluntary assisted dying for non terminally sick people? Anyone has looked into this? I know euthanasia is illegal there. Anyone is applying for vad clinics? Or knows someone who went there?

Thank you! Much appreciated!
 
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justtiredofit

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Feb 14, 2022
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You'll still need a medical condition (physical/mental), confirmed by Physicians/Psychologists, before assisted suicide can be granted.
 
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Toxic Positivity

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It's a lot of paperwork even for Pegasos, which is one of the less conservative orgs. And 10,000 euros. I thought about getting a job to pay for it, but getting N online or a rifle locally makes more sense and I don't need to provide all sorts of documents (some have to be originals, some have to be copies within a certain date, etc). Being suicidal all the time has made me really unproductive, so it literally feels like too much work. But more power to those who can jump thru all the hoops.
 
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dropintheocean

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Dec 12, 2021
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You'll still need a medical condition (physical/mental), confirmed by Physicians/Psychologists, before assisted suicide can be granted.
Yes! Have you looked into vad clinics/options? Just wondering if you know other vad countries/clinics? Or if you know more about them?
It's a lot of paperwork even for Pegasos, which is one of the less conservative orgs. And 10,000 euros. I thought about getting a job to pay for it, but getting N online or a rifle locally makes more sense and I don't need to provide all sorts of documents (some have to be originals, some have to be copies within a certain date, etc). Being suicidal all the time has made me really unproductive, so it literally feels like too much work. But more power to those who can jump thru all the hoops.
Yes! Have you looked into vad clinics/options? Just wondering if you know other vad countries/clinics? Or if you know more about them? Or heard someone went through it?
 
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Toxic Positivity

At my own pace
Feb 11, 2022
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Yes! Have you looked into vad clinics/options? Just wondering if you know other vad countries/clinics? Or if you know more about them?

Yes! Have you looked into vad clinics/options? Just wondering if you know other vad countries/clinics? Or if you know more about them? Or heard someone went through it?
Sorry, I don't know too much about it. Just that it is prohibitively expensive for me and that I don't want to gather all the paperwork. But keep us updated if you learn more.
 
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justtiredofit

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Yes! Have you looked into vad clinics/options? Just wondering if you know other vad countries/clinics? Or if you know more about them?

Yes! Have you looked into vad clinics/options? Just wondering if you know other vad countries/clinics? Or if you know more about them? Or heard someone went through it?
Only what I was able to find when doing a web search. Unfortunately I don't know anyone that tried one, and there's nothing like that here where I live.
 
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whitefeather

Thank the gods for Death
Apr 23, 2020
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Is swizerland only country that offers medically assisted dying / voluntary assisted dying for non terminally sick people? Anyone has looked into this? I know euthanasia is illegal there. Anyone is applying for vad clinics? Or knows someone who went there?

Thank you! Much appreciated!
YES, IN CANADA THE PHYSICIAN BRINGS THE IV RIGHT TO PATIENTS HOME , AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE TERMINAL . NEXT YEAR MENTAL ILLNESS WILL BE INCLUDED.
 
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YES, IN CANADA THE PHYSICIAN BRINGS THE IV RIGHT TO PATIENTS HOME , AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE TERMINAL . NEXT YEAR MENTAL ILLNESS WILL BE INCLUDED.
Being in Canada myself, that's not entirely true. The new rules that are to take effect in March 2023 will now include people where natural death isn't reasonably forseeable, instead of just terminal illness with a finite life expectancy. You won't be able to just say to a doctor I want assisted suicide. In fact, the mental illness provision is being reviewed to ensure "adequate" safeguards are in place as they are hesitant to allow mental illness to be the sole reason for assisted suicide. We're supposed to learn more about that in March 2022.
 
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olkf

I smile by your disgrace
Jan 21, 2022
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If only you could just buy a suicide kit at the store after showing ID
 
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dropintheocean

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Dec 12, 2021
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Being in Canada myself, that's not entirely true. The new rules that are to take effect in March 2023 will now include people where natural death isn't reasonably forseeable, instead of just terminal illness with a finite life expectancy. You won't be able to just say to a doctor I want assisted suicide. In fact, the mental illness provision is being reviewed to ensure "adequate" safeguards are in place as they are hesitant to allow mental illness to be the sole reason for assisted suicide. We're supposed to learn more about that in March 2022.
Thank you! But is switzerland only country to offer vad for foreigners? Or does canada or other countries have that option?
 
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justtiredofit

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It's only available to Canadians/Permanent Residents.
 
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justtiredofit

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It's a lot of paperwork even for Pegasos, which is one of the less conservative orgs. And 10,000 euros. I thought about getting a job to pay for it, but getting N online or a rifle locally makes more sense and I don't need to provide all sorts of documents (some have to be originals, some have to be copies within a certain date, etc). Being suicidal all the time has made me really unproductive, so it literally feels like too much work. But more power to those who can jump thru all the hoops.
I looked at them today. Even if I maxed everything out it, turns out the law there requires someone be with me to identify the body afterwards. They say if you can't bring someone to go to another site for help finding someone, but that site only allows you to sign-up if your >50 and terminally ill. :aw:
 
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dropintheocean

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Dec 12, 2021
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I looked at them today. Even if I maxed everything out it, turns out the law there requires someone be with me to identify the body afterwards. They say if you can't bring someone to go to another site for help finding someone, but that site only allows you to sign-up if your >50 and terminally ill. :aw:
Do you have any physical illnesses? I think they could help you to find someone regardles of your age. And I think theres a possibility to get on that site where to find someone even if younger but I think chronic physical illness is required.
 
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justtiredofit

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Feb 14, 2022
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Do you have any physical illnesses? I think they could help you to find someone regardles of your age. And I think theres a possibility to get on that site where to find someone even if younger but I think chronic physical illness is required.
Technically yes, but it isn't one that they'd say has a finite end date. Will it eventually kill me, yes, but it could be anytime between now and 5-10 years.
 
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dropintheocean

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Technically yes, but it isn't one that they'd say has a finite end date. Will it eventually kill me, yes, but it could be anytime between now and 5-10 years.
You dont have to have terminal illness to get accepted for vad. Its not easy to get it though. Im going to apply. If you like we can pm too. Im trying to find out if switzerland is only country to accept foreigners to get vad. I think so..