Look, they don't even hide it.

[SuicideGrandEst]

Here you have it. They are fearmongerers. They do it on purpose to make every method sound and look awful and appalling.
My point here is not to discuss hanging. I'm just saying they have those strategies and their aim is to say anything as long as they can instil fear, disgust and paralyse us, even if it's not true. They'd rather have us continue in a life of pain and misery, even add to our plight by scaring us. I have no words.

Abstract

Background
Hanging is the most frequently used method of suicide in the UK and has high case fatality (>70%).
Aims
To explore factors influencing the decision to use hanging.
Method
Semi-structured qualitative interviews with 12 men and 10 women who had survived a near-fatal suicide attempt. Eight respondents had attempted hanging. Data were analysed thematically and with constant comparison.
Results
Hanging was adopted or contemplated for two main reasons: the anticipated nature of a death from hanging; and accessibility. Those favouring hanging anticipated a certain, rapid and painless death with little awareness of dying and believed it was a 'clean' method that would not damage the body or leave harrowing images for others. Materials for hanging were easily accessed and respondents considered it 'simple' to perform without the need for planning or technical knowledge. Hanging was thus seen as the 'quickest' and 'easiest' method with few barriers to completion and sometimes adopted despite not being a first choice. Respondents who rejected hanging recognised it could be slow, painful and 'messy', and thought technical knowledge was needed for implementation.
Conclusions
Prevention strategies should focus on countering perceptions of hanging as a clean, painless and rapid method that is easily implemented. However, care is needed in the delivery of such messages as some individuals could gain information that might facilitate fatal implementation. Detailed research needs to focus on developing and evaluating interventions that can manage this tension.

Factors influencing the decision to use hanging as a method of suicide: qualitative study | The British Journal of Psychiatry | Cambridge Core

Factors influencing the decision to use hanging as a method of suicide: qualitative study - Volume 197 Issue 4

www.cambridge.org

 

[Fktw0rld]

I love it. Just confirms the fact that hanging is a clean, rapid and painless method that is easily implemented.

Thanks pro lifers!!

 

[Crono]

I've almost passed out during a hanging test and I can say that it's totally peaceful and quick if done correctly. The problem with hanging is that if it fails, the results are horrible.

 

[neveragreedtothis]

It's the same thing where some people started 'documenting' their 'failed SN' and were able to bounce back in mere minutes to expertly reply to every poster on their thread. they'd be super vague about their dose as well.

Pro-lifers are truly insidious.

 

[FuneralCry]

Suicide prevention is inhumane, it's only prolonging suffering, it disgusts me how suicide isn't viewed as a valid option despite the fact that we are just waiting around to die anyway. Trying to deliberately scare people from attempting a suicide method really is just so cruel, those people have no compassion towards the suffering suicidal people go through.

 

[d3c96524be95]

Here you have it. They are fearmongerers. They do it on purpose to make every method sound and look awful and appalling.
My point here is not to discuss hanging. I'm just saying they have those strategies and their aim is to say anything as long as they can instil fear, disgust and paralyse us, even if it's not true. They'd rather have us continue in a life of pain and misery, even add to our plight by scaring us. I have no words.

As always, psychiatry is about morality more than it is about medicine. I'm stunned by how mediocre and unscientific this paper is. I was about to try to defend it by saying that the excerpt you highlighted from the abstract is slightly motivated within the article:

For example, prevention strategies could focus on
providing more accurate information about the processes and
consequences of hanging to counter perceptions of its hygienic
rapidity, and introduce awareness of the possibility of neurological
impairment on survival.⁵

Where ⁵ references the paper I've attached to this message. This could have been the only valid point in the whole paper, but even the referenced paper doesn't state that neurological impairments on survival are *that* common (and it is not the main topic of the article anyways).

This is just sickening. Lying and hiding the truth to patients will surely make them trust psychiatry. This is anything but science.

 

[CTB Dream]

Prolif awfl scum no give peace, awfl species injury damage me no give peace, awfl species brainle no empth
Try make all mthod hard, awfl species psycho

 

[SuicideGrandEst]

The only ones they haven't demonized as much is Nembutal and Nitrogen

I know you said "as much" and I definitely agree with you on that one, but just wanted to say something.

Can you imagine I bumped into a kind of news article untitled something like:
Dignitas/Exit: the not so peaceful death.

This was before joining this forum and even getting more empowered, getting more enlightened and accessing more resources, which are very helpful to learn to detect BS.

I've been looking for the article for 30 minutes. Unfortunately I can't find it anymore. I wanted to post it.

That was some stuff!

Honestly, I couldn't believe my eyes as I read through it.

Guess what their point was: with N, you don't necessarily die in a few minutes.

Look, I wasn't as empowered as I am now but honestly the points seemed sooooo weak to me.

So they said: Exit/Dignitas (can't remember which one) promises a quick and peaceful death in a few minutes. Some patients were still alive after hours, LEFT AGONISING.
(Yes, they used that word. Honestly, that caught me off guard).

Then, as if it wasn't enough, they said: Pentobarbital causes respiratory depression, which means the patients were slowly suffocating, dying by asphyxia and were left in such a state during long hours.

In some instances, an additional dose had to be provided, to free the patient from such long agony.

Honestly...
This one was one of the most stupid stuff I had ever read.
Little did they mention (if the whole thing really happened that is) that those people were totally unconscious, in a state similar to coma so.... agonising or not, they most certainly weren't suffering or feeling anything.

If someone has that article, please share, because this is really priceless.

Oooooh yes wait, they also said some patients woke up... and were fully aware of what was going on, so we could image the panic and the fear.

What's interesting is that they never compare those few minutes or hours to a life of suffering.
They never contrast it with 10 years, 20, 40, 60 years. And the intensity of it.
That's incredible.

It's the same thing where some people started 'documenting' their 'failed SN' and were able to bounce back in mere minutes to expertly reply to every poster on their thread. they'd be super vague about their dose as well.Pro-lifers are truly insidious

I know a guy here on this forum who was sure he'd go with SN. We discussed it for a few weeks. His order is coming tomorrow but today he told me there's too much pain associated to it and that it's no longer his preferred method.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I know you said "as much" and I definitely agree with you on that one, but just wanted to say something.

Can you imagine I bumped into a kind of news article untitled something like:
Dignitas/Exit: the not so peaceful death.

This was before joining this forum and even getting more empowered, getting more enlightened and accessing more resources, which are very helpful to learn to detect BS.

I've been looking for the article for 30 minutes. Unfortunately I can't find it anymore. I wanted to post it.

That was some stuff!

Honestly, I couldn't believe my eyes as I read through it.

Guess what their point was: with N, you don't necessarily die in a few minutes.

Look, I wasn't as empowered as I am now but honestly the points seemed sooooo weak to me.

So they said: Exit/Dignitas (can't remember which one) promises a quick and peaceful death in a few minutes. Some patients were still alive after hours, LEFT AGONISING.
(Yes, they used that word. Honestly, that caught me off guard).

Then, as if it wasn't enough, they said: Pentobarbital causes respiratory depression, which means the patients were slowly suffocating, dying by asphyxia and were left in such a state during long hours.

In some instances, an additional dose had to be provided, to free the patient from such long agony.

Honestly...
This one was one of the most stupid stuff I had ever read.
Little did they mention (if the whole thing really happened that is) that those people were totally unconscious, in a state similar to coma so.... agonising or not, they most certainly weren't suffering or feeling anything.

If someone has that article, please share, because this is really priceless.

Oooooh yes wait, they also said some patients woke up... and were fully aware of what was going on, so we could image the panic and the fear.

What's interesting is that they never compare those few minutes or hours to a life of suffering.
They never contrast it with 10 years, 20, 40, 60 years. And the intensity of it.
That's incredible.




I know a guy here on this forum who was sure he'd go with SN. We discussed it for a few weeks. His order is coming tomorrow but today he told me there's too much pain associated to it and that it's no longer his preferred method.

Yes it's all pro-life propaganda all lies. I'll repost it I had deleted it:

Yes they demonize every suicide method especially SN , and the shotgun to head 99%. they say all the methods will cause brain damage disability painful leave you alive . imo I've researched all these methods for 5 years all lies. SN is painless for example, shotgun 99% look up on lethality of methods in lost all hope. what's really painful is something like suffering with cancer or other diseases for years or decades (alsheimers dementia ) etc.


For example I've seen hundreds of sn ctb threads. I haven't seen any one say they felt pain or suffocation but they have every one even here believing that. also the pph observed many sn suicides all painless. the survivors here said painless.


The only ones they haven't demonized as much is Nembutal and Nitrogen so that's why everybody prefers those methods. no life is what is extremely painful and natural deaths torture you slowly to death. But they know nembutal is impossible to get and nitrogen is very difficult and they even banned nembutal and many online nitrogen and sn sources.


Everything they say or do is to brainwash everyone so that they never commit suicide. that's in the ever deeper honesty book and I agree.

Most lethal methods of suicide | Lost All Hope: The web's leading suicide resource

Information on most lethal methods of suicide, and how they have been ranked in terms of pain. Plus info on things to consider before trying popular methods.

lostallhope.com

 

[SuicideGrandEst]

Oh, I hadn't noticed.
Glad you shared with us again.
We have to support one another and be made aware of manipulation tactics.