Okay have measured appropriate rope length etc for my weight, but that means my feet would just be inches off the floor once I've dropped the 8ft. Should this still be enough? Or my backup is over the door with dumbbell, again with feet inches above the floor. Please help
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Worndown
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You are kinda on your own with this.
For no drop, it is great. For long drop, you probably need a better location. It will stretch when you hit bottom.
Why this is normally an execution method, not a home method.
Good luck!
For no drop, it is great. For long drop, you probably need a better location. It will stretch when you hit bottom.
Why this is normally an execution method, not a home method.
Good luck!
Romanticize
Specialist
- Aug 22, 2024
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long drop is good, effective and should be quick.
You have to be sure that the weight will be like 3-4x your weight, so make sure the branch (or whatever you will attach the rope to) and the rope itself won't break. After calculations you would need at least 30cm of clearance, because of stretching, and dont take your height, because you will straighten your feet, add 10cm of length to account for it too.
So you need at least 30+10=40cm of clearance just to be sure
You have to be sure that the weight will be like 3-4x your weight, so make sure the branch (or whatever you will attach the rope to) and the rope itself won't break. After calculations you would need at least 30cm of clearance, because of stretching, and dont take your height, because you will straighten your feet, add 10cm of length to account for it too.
So you need at least 30+10=40cm of clearance just to be sure
Romanticize
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of course.
there are 3 types of hangings:
- partial suspension
- full suspension
- drop hanging:
a) short drop (or butchered long drop) - when spine doesn't break and person suffers suffocation
b) long drop (spine breaks - instant death). Note that really long drop can result in full decapitation - also instant death but gruesome view.
Worndown
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Long drop executions break the neck (most times)
No drop and partial block blood flow to make you pass out. Continued pressure finishes the job. There is no suffocation.
In animations, they flail around for several minutes. Superman flies in animations too. No reality needed.
There is no suffocation unless you screw up on a biblical level. Somehow wrap yourself up in the rope. Something else equally unconventional.
Read up on this, don't screw up!
We are supposed to be supporting, not scarring everyone.
No drop and partial block blood flow to make you pass out. Continued pressure finishes the job. There is no suffocation.
In animations, they flail around for several minutes. Superman flies in animations too. No reality needed.
There is no suffocation unless you screw up on a biblical level. Somehow wrap yourself up in the rope. Something else equally unconventional.
Read up on this, don't screw up!
We are supposed to be supporting, not scarring everyone.
JesiBel
protoTYPE:4rp14
- Dec 5, 2024
- 726
Honestly, it's the most complicated version of Hanging to execute. We're normal people, not trained military personnel. Many mistakes can occur.
There's a website dedicated entirely to this topic; it has so much information that it's impossible to summarize it in a single post. I've left the link below.
---- [The processes of judicial hanging: There are four main forms of hanging] ----
Short drop hanging where the prisoner drops just a few inches, and their suspended body weight and physical struggling causes the noose to tighten, normally resulting in death by strangulation or carotid or Vagal reflex. Pole hanging is a variation on this method.
Suspension hanging where the executee is lifted into the air using a crane or other mechanism. Death is caused in the same way as with short drop hanging.
Standard drop hanging where the prisoner drops a predetermined amount, typically 4-6 feet, which may or may not break their neck. This was the normal method adopted in America in the later 19th and early 20th centuries.
Finally, measured or "long drop" hanging which became universal in Britain from 1874, where the distance the person falls when the trapdoors open is calculated according to their weight, height and physique and is designed to break the neck. This method was adopted in British Colonies and by some other countries who wished to make executions more humane.
The "Short Drop" method.
Hanging using little or no drop is still used by some Middle Eastern countries, notably, Iran.
The prisoner could be suspended by a variety of means, from the back of a cart (or later a motor vehicle), from a horse as was sometimes used in America, or by removing the platform or ladder on which they stood, as was used in Nazi hangings and also in present day Iranian ones carried out inside prisons, or by some form of trap door drop mechanism as was used in Britain from 1760 and adopted by many other countries.
The Rules of Execution of Sentences require the body of the convict to remain hanging for 20 minutes up to 45 minutes. After that, the executioners take the body down from the gallows, the doctor confirms the death, and the body is taken to the morgue.
Suspension hanging.
This method is currently used in Iran for public hangings and was also used for some executions when the Taliban controlled Afghanistan where executees were hanged from the barrels of tanks and from mobile crane jibs. In Iran, both mobile crane and recovery truck jibs are used. All of these have hydraulic mechanisms for raising them, so the jib serves as both the gallows and the means of getting the prisoner suspended.
In America, instead of the conventional gallows that dropped the prisoner through a trapdoor, some states used a method where weights connected to the rope jerked the person upwards when they were released by the hangman. This method was used in 1874, for the hanging of William E. Udderzook in West Chester, Pennsylvania and also for Charles Thiede in Utah in 1896.
Connecticut used a similar arrangement for the execution of Gerald Chapman on April the 26th, 1926. A weight was connected to the rope which passed over a pulley. The warden operated a lever with his foot to allow the weight to fall, so pulling Chapman 12 feet into the air with such force that his neck was broken.
Standard drop hanging.
A standardised drop, of between four and six feet, was used in many American hangings during the later part of the 19th century and into the early 20th century.
This was not worked out against the weight of the individual, but was often equivalent to their height. It was considered as an advance on the short drop method previously used. A drop of this distance was often not sufficient to break the prisoner's neck, however, and many still died by strangulation, although in a lot of cases they were knocked unconscious by the force of the drop and the impact of the heavy coiled knot against the side of the neck. Occasionally, they were decapitated when the drop proved to be too long, as happened at the execution of Eva Dugan in Arizona in 1928.
The "Long drop" or measured drop method.
In 1872, William Marwood introduced the concept of an accurately calculated drop for the execution of Frederick Horry at Lincoln prison, as a scientifically worked out way of giving the prisoner a humane death.
The long drop method was designed to break the prisoner's neck by allowing them to fall a pre-determined distance and then be brought up with a sharp jerk by the rope. At the end of the drop, the body is still accelerating under the force of gravity but the head is constrained by the noose. If the eyelet is positioned under the left angle of the jaw it rotates the head backwards, which combined with the downward momentum of the body, breaks the neck and ruptures the spinal cord causing instant deep unconsciousness and rapid death. The later use of the brass eyelet in the noose tended to break the neck with more certainty. It is only in the last six inches or so of the drop that the physical damage to the neck and vertebrae occur as the rope constricts the neck and the force is applied to the vertebrae. The duration of this part of the process is between 0.02 and 0.03 of a second depending upon the length of drop given. Generally the diameter of the noose is found to have reduced some five to seven inches after the drop.
The drop given in the later part of the 19th century was usually between 4 and 10 feet depending on the weight and strength of the prisoner. The weight used to calculate the correct drop is that of the prisoner's clothed body. In accordance with the recommendations of the Aberdare Committee, from 1886 to 1892, the length of drop was calculated to provide a final "striking" force of approximately 1,260 ft. lbs. force which combined with the positioning of the eyelet caused dislocation of the neck, usually at the 2nd and 3rd or 3rd and 4th cervical vertebrae. The length of the drop was worked out by the formula 1,260 foot pounds divided by the body weight of the prisoner in pounds = drop in feet. Between 1892 and 1913, a shorter length of drop was used, presumably to avoid the decapitation and near decapitations that had occurred with old table. The 1892 table produced a force of 840 ft. lbs.
After 1913, other factors were also taken into account and the drop was calculated to give a final "striking" force of around 1,000 ft. lbs. The Home Office issued a rule restricting all drops to between 5 feet and 8 feet 6 inches as this had been found to be an adequate range.
From around 1939 it became customary to add a further nine inches to the drop calculated from the 1913 table, to give a force of around 1100 ft. lbs..
---- [How judical hanging causes death] ----
Short drop and simple suspension hanging.
Short drop/suspension hanging accounts for a majority of all executions worldwide as well as a large number of suicides.
Iran is the leading user of this method and uses a coiled noose with the knot placed at or towards the back of the neck. Hanging with little or no drop typically causes death by a combination of the tightening noose occluding the carotid arteries and jugular veins causing cerebral hypoxia (ischemia), i.e. a severely reduced flow of oxygenated blood to and from the brain and asphyxia due to the weight of the person's body forcing the base of the tongue upwards against the back of the mouth, blocking the airway and thus preventing breathing. It may also constrict the trachea (air passage), however this requires some 33 pounds per square inch of pressure to compress. Compression of the carotid arteries may also cause rapid heart stoppage due to carotid/Vagal reflex, this requiring just 11 pounds per square inch of pressure, whereas compression of the jugular veins only requires some 4.5 pounds per square inch of pressure. The vertebrae protect the vertebral and spinal arteries which also supply blood to the brain. However, these arteries go outside the fourth vertebrae instead of inside it, which subjects them to blockage if the pressure on the neck is high enough (usually about 40-50 pounds per square inch of pressure). Consciousness can be lost in as little as 8-10 seconds. It is thought that brain death will occur in around six minutes and the heart will stop beating within 10-15 minutes.
The convulsive phase which it is thought occurs after consciousness has been lost. There may be spasmodic and uncoordinated rippling movements of the limbs which occur for some time and which are usually attributed to nervous and muscular reflexes caused by the build up of carbon dioxide in the blood stream.
Decerebrate posturing is caused by lesions of the brainstem due to the coils of the noose pressing on it. As the prisoner's arms are invariably handcuffed behind their backs, Decerebrate posturing of the arms is largely prevented.
Standard drop hanging.
Where the standard drop proves inadequate to break the neck or cause unconsciousness, the prisoner seems to suffer a more cruel death than where little or no drop is used. The force generated by a drop of 5 or 6 feet is very considerable and does great damage to the skin, muscles and ligaments of the neck but does not necessarily induce asphyxia any sooner.
Fortunately not all standard drop hangings were so gruesome and many prisoners did not show any signs of physical suffering as they were rendered unconscious by the force of the drop, even though their spinal cord was not severed.
The measured or long drop.
It takes between a half and three quarters of a second for a person to reach the end of the rope after the trap opens, depending upon the length of drop given. The force produced by the prisoner's body weight multiplied by the length of fall and the force of gravity, coupled with the position of the noose is designed to violently jerk the person's head backwards and sideways. In medical terms this is known as hyperflexion of the neck, which causes dislocation of the upper neck vertebrae and may also cause fracture of the vetebrae, ideally between the C2 & C3 vertebrae, crushing or severing the spinal cord leading to immediate unconsciousness.
This leads to a number of factors, all of which can cause death. The Phrenic nerve which controls the diaphragm emerges between the C3 and C4 vertebrae and thus if the dislocation occurs above C4 the person's breathing ceases immediately, leading to asphyxia. The rope constricts the carotid arteries and the jugular veins, with the same results described in "Short drop hanging" above. Typically the neck is constricted by as much as five inches from its original circumference.
Fractures of the hyoid bone and larynx typically occur which on their own can prove fatal as breathing is severely restricted or prevented. The normal cause of death is given as comatose asphyxia. Some slight movements of the limbs and body may occasionally occur but are almost certainly due to muscular reflexes.
.....
Website (source): https://capitalpunishmentuk.org/
There's a website dedicated entirely to this topic; it has so much information that it's impossible to summarize it in a single post. I've left the link below.
---- [The processes of judicial hanging: There are four main forms of hanging] ----
Short drop hanging where the prisoner drops just a few inches, and their suspended body weight and physical struggling causes the noose to tighten, normally resulting in death by strangulation or carotid or Vagal reflex. Pole hanging is a variation on this method. Suspension hanging where the executee is lifted into the air using a crane or other mechanism. Death is caused in the same way as with short drop hanging. Standard drop hanging where the prisoner drops a predetermined amount, typically 4-6 feet, which may or may not break their neck. This was the normal method adopted in America in the later 19th and early 20th centuries. Finally, measured or "long drop" hanging which became universal in Britain from 1874, where the distance the person falls when the trapdoors open is calculated according to their weight, height and physique and is designed to break the neck. This method was adopted in British Colonies and by some other countries who wished to make executions more humane. The "Short Drop" method.Hanging using little or no drop is still used by some Middle Eastern countries, notably, Iran.
The prisoner could be suspended by a variety of means, from the back of a cart (or later a motor vehicle), from a horse as was sometimes used in America, or by removing the platform or ladder on which they stood, as was used in Nazi hangings and also in present day Iranian ones carried out inside prisons, or by some form of trap door drop mechanism as was used in Britain from 1760 and adopted by many other countries.
The Rules of Execution of Sentences require the body of the convict to remain hanging for 20 minutes up to 45 minutes. After that, the executioners take the body down from the gallows, the doctor confirms the death, and the body is taken to the morgue.
Suspension hanging.This method is currently used in Iran for public hangings and was also used for some executions when the Taliban controlled Afghanistan where executees were hanged from the barrels of tanks and from mobile crane jibs. In Iran, both mobile crane and recovery truck jibs are used. All of these have hydraulic mechanisms for raising them, so the jib serves as both the gallows and the means of getting the prisoner suspended.
In America, instead of the conventional gallows that dropped the prisoner through a trapdoor, some states used a method where weights connected to the rope jerked the person upwards when they were released by the hangman. This method was used in 1874, for the hanging of William E. Udderzook in West Chester, Pennsylvania and also for Charles Thiede in Utah in 1896.
Connecticut used a similar arrangement for the execution of Gerald Chapman on April the 26th, 1926. A weight was connected to the rope which passed over a pulley. The warden operated a lever with his foot to allow the weight to fall, so pulling Chapman 12 feet into the air with such force that his neck was broken.
Standard drop hanging.A standardised drop, of between four and six feet, was used in many American hangings during the later part of the 19th century and into the early 20th century.
This was not worked out against the weight of the individual, but was often equivalent to their height. It was considered as an advance on the short drop method previously used. A drop of this distance was often not sufficient to break the prisoner's neck, however, and many still died by strangulation, although in a lot of cases they were knocked unconscious by the force of the drop and the impact of the heavy coiled knot against the side of the neck. Occasionally, they were decapitated when the drop proved to be too long, as happened at the execution of Eva Dugan in Arizona in 1928.
The "Long drop" or measured drop method.In 1872, William Marwood introduced the concept of an accurately calculated drop for the execution of Frederick Horry at Lincoln prison, as a scientifically worked out way of giving the prisoner a humane death.
The long drop method was designed to break the prisoner's neck by allowing them to fall a pre-determined distance and then be brought up with a sharp jerk by the rope. At the end of the drop, the body is still accelerating under the force of gravity but the head is constrained by the noose. If the eyelet is positioned under the left angle of the jaw it rotates the head backwards, which combined with the downward momentum of the body, breaks the neck and ruptures the spinal cord causing instant deep unconsciousness and rapid death. The later use of the brass eyelet in the noose tended to break the neck with more certainty. It is only in the last six inches or so of the drop that the physical damage to the neck and vertebrae occur as the rope constricts the neck and the force is applied to the vertebrae. The duration of this part of the process is between 0.02 and 0.03 of a second depending upon the length of drop given. Generally the diameter of the noose is found to have reduced some five to seven inches after the drop.
The drop given in the later part of the 19th century was usually between 4 and 10 feet depending on the weight and strength of the prisoner. The weight used to calculate the correct drop is that of the prisoner's clothed body. In accordance with the recommendations of the Aberdare Committee, from 1886 to 1892, the length of drop was calculated to provide a final "striking" force of approximately 1,260 ft. lbs. force which combined with the positioning of the eyelet caused dislocation of the neck, usually at the 2nd and 3rd or 3rd and 4th cervical vertebrae. The length of the drop was worked out by the formula 1,260 foot pounds divided by the body weight of the prisoner in pounds = drop in feet. Between 1892 and 1913, a shorter length of drop was used, presumably to avoid the decapitation and near decapitations that had occurred with old table. The 1892 table produced a force of 840 ft. lbs.
After 1913, other factors were also taken into account and the drop was calculated to give a final "striking" force of around 1,000 ft. lbs. The Home Office issued a rule restricting all drops to between 5 feet and 8 feet 6 inches as this had been found to be an adequate range.
From around 1939 it became customary to add a further nine inches to the drop calculated from the 1913 table, to give a force of around 1100 ft. lbs..
---- [How judical hanging causes death] ----
Short drop and simple suspension hanging.Short drop/suspension hanging accounts for a majority of all executions worldwide as well as a large number of suicides.
Iran is the leading user of this method and uses a coiled noose with the knot placed at or towards the back of the neck. Hanging with little or no drop typically causes death by a combination of the tightening noose occluding the carotid arteries and jugular veins causing cerebral hypoxia (ischemia), i.e. a severely reduced flow of oxygenated blood to and from the brain and asphyxia due to the weight of the person's body forcing the base of the tongue upwards against the back of the mouth, blocking the airway and thus preventing breathing. It may also constrict the trachea (air passage), however this requires some 33 pounds per square inch of pressure to compress. Compression of the carotid arteries may also cause rapid heart stoppage due to carotid/Vagal reflex, this requiring just 11 pounds per square inch of pressure, whereas compression of the jugular veins only requires some 4.5 pounds per square inch of pressure. The vertebrae protect the vertebral and spinal arteries which also supply blood to the brain. However, these arteries go outside the fourth vertebrae instead of inside it, which subjects them to blockage if the pressure on the neck is high enough (usually about 40-50 pounds per square inch of pressure). Consciousness can be lost in as little as 8-10 seconds. It is thought that brain death will occur in around six minutes and the heart will stop beating within 10-15 minutes.
The convulsive phase which it is thought occurs after consciousness has been lost. There may be spasmodic and uncoordinated rippling movements of the limbs which occur for some time and which are usually attributed to nervous and muscular reflexes caused by the build up of carbon dioxide in the blood stream.
Decerebrate posturing is caused by lesions of the brainstem due to the coils of the noose pressing on it. As the prisoner's arms are invariably handcuffed behind their backs, Decerebrate posturing of the arms is largely prevented.
Standard drop hanging.Where the standard drop proves inadequate to break the neck or cause unconsciousness, the prisoner seems to suffer a more cruel death than where little or no drop is used. The force generated by a drop of 5 or 6 feet is very considerable and does great damage to the skin, muscles and ligaments of the neck but does not necessarily induce asphyxia any sooner.
Fortunately not all standard drop hangings were so gruesome and many prisoners did not show any signs of physical suffering as they were rendered unconscious by the force of the drop, even though their spinal cord was not severed.
The measured or long drop.It takes between a half and three quarters of a second for a person to reach the end of the rope after the trap opens, depending upon the length of drop given. The force produced by the prisoner's body weight multiplied by the length of fall and the force of gravity, coupled with the position of the noose is designed to violently jerk the person's head backwards and sideways. In medical terms this is known as hyperflexion of the neck, which causes dislocation of the upper neck vertebrae and may also cause fracture of the vetebrae, ideally between the C2 & C3 vertebrae, crushing or severing the spinal cord leading to immediate unconsciousness.
This leads to a number of factors, all of which can cause death. The Phrenic nerve which controls the diaphragm emerges between the C3 and C4 vertebrae and thus if the dislocation occurs above C4 the person's breathing ceases immediately, leading to asphyxia. The rope constricts the carotid arteries and the jugular veins, with the same results described in "Short drop hanging" above. Typically the neck is constricted by as much as five inches from its original circumference.
Fractures of the hyoid bone and larynx typically occur which on their own can prove fatal as breathing is severely restricted or prevented. The normal cause of death is given as comatose asphyxia. Some slight movements of the limbs and body may occasionally occur but are almost certainly due to muscular reflexes.
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Website (source): https://capitalpunishmentuk.org/
Lots to think about. I'm a light 59 yr old female. If I wore a writhed backpack front and back, what would that achieve?
Meant weighted backpack
Meant weighted backpack
Worndown
Illuminated
- Mar 21, 2019
- 3,700
Romanticize
Specialist
- Aug 22, 2024
- 333
if you would attach weight to yourself, it will make downward (gravity) force higher.
Means with no drop, the rope will tighten harder on your neck. Probably increasing chances of carotids shutting.
And with drop hanging, attaching weight would equal to dropping youself from slightly greater height. However, height is much more important than weight (i didnt do calculations, but for example if you would do 1m drop hanging with 20kg attached to yourself, it would equal to drop hanginf from 1.2~1.3m).
But please note that even when calculations were done, the executions done by state were often botched (either by too short drop and strangulation), or too long drop and decapitation (if it was me, i wouldnt call decapitation botched - death is quick and painless, but the state considered it inhumane).
Basically, the rule of thumb - if you dont care if you will be decapitated - is that the longer the drop (and the higher the weight - but its secondary to height) - the better your chances of breaking spine and/or decapitating. But its tricky, as the anchor point or rope could break, completely ruining the method. Even no drop hanging (like a normal full suspension) could result in quick and almost painless death - but mechanism is different - caroid arteries are shut.
This is why with hanging, a lot of different things can happen. Its a complex method, but people think its simple.
The one thing all hangings have in common - they are very reliable. If noone finds you in time, you're 100% dead. But the death can happen with different mechanisms, some quick and somewhat peaceful, and some longer and painful.
JesiBel
protoTYPE:4rp14
- Dec 5, 2024
- 726
Scaring people again with the Full Suspension Hanging method? Was the previous thread not enough for you?
I quote it so we don't fall into the endless discussion again.
Thread 'Improper hanging'
Improper hanging
Id like to let anyone concerned to know that the act of hanging is known to be and heard to be painless and quick but with the way people use hanging to commit suicide in 2025 is way more along the lines of “ligature strangulation” doesn't sound so nice right? And it isnt. Ligature strangulation...
sanctioned-suicide.net
And those who wish to read are welcome. There are many responses with valuable information.
-----------
I agree with @Worndown
Drop hanging isn't for everyone; it's not worth the risk. Even when performed by trained personnel, the calculations often went wrong, and the prisoner ended up suffering more than they should. Not achieving an assured "instant death".
You can do things more simply and well with the "traditional" method (FSH)
Anyway, it's up to each one.
Before doing anything, do your research first (inside and outside this forum), compare what's best for you.
Romanticize
Specialist
- Aug 22, 2024
- 333
no i dont mean to scare anyone.Scaring people again with the Full Suspension Hanging method? Was the previous thread not enough for you?
I quote it so we don't fall into the endless discussion again.
Improper hanging
Id like to let anyone concerned to know that the act of hanging is known to be and heard to be painless and quick but with the way people use hanging to commit suicide in 2025 is way more along the lines of “ligature strangulation” doesn't sound so nice right? And it isnt. Ligature strangulation...
And those who wish to read are welcome. There are many responses with valuable information.
-----------
I agree with @Worndown
Drop hanging isn't for everyone; it's not worth the risk. Even when performed by trained personnel, the calculations often went wrong, and the prisoner ended up suffering more than they should. Not achieving an assured "instant death".
You can do things more simply and well with the "traditional" method (FSH)
Anyway, it's up to each one.
Before doing anything, do your research first (inside and outside this forum), compare what's best for you.
I think you can agree on one thing: that many full suspension hangings result in carotid blackouts, but not all of them? There is no research telling if 95% are quick, or 80% or maybe 50% (i think with thin rope, majority is quick but its never 100%). its a matter of good preparation and personal preference if someone wants to try their luck.
You may look inside this thread - some people inside describe full suspension hangings which didnt go well
hanging: what does it feel like?
Hey everyone! I'm researching hanging, full suspension, and was curious if anyone found any info on how it feels like? In my case, it's most likely gonna be a short drop, so death by strangulation / asphyxia, depending on my luck. But opinions on how this feels like are diverse, ranging from...
sanctioned-suicide.net
Worndown
Illuminated
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So, there are two ways to address your blackout concern:
1. Facts. We learn from them. Where can it go wrong. How to insure you do it right. What are the important variables?
2. Horror stories. Scare them into a different method. It is too diffucult for anyone to understand or use successfully.
What is your preferred way? It looks like horror stories.
1. Facts. We learn from them. Where can it go wrong. How to insure you do it right. What are the important variables?
2. Horror stories. Scare them into a different method. It is too diffucult for anyone to understand or use successfully.
What is your preferred way? It looks like horror stories.
JesiBel
protoTYPE:4rp14
- Dec 5, 2024
- 726
I just hope no poor soul on the forum falls into your hands privately. You don't want to understand even when there are videos that prove it. You're living in a fantasy and denial.no i dont mean to scare anyone.
I think you can agree on one thing: that many full suspension hangings result in carotid blackouts, but not all of them? There is no research telling if 95% are quick, or 80% or maybe 50% (i think with thin rope, majority is quick but its never 100%). its a matter of good preparation and personal preference if someone wants to try their luck.
You may look inside this thread - some people inside describe full suspension hangings which didnt go well
hanging: what does it feel like?
Hey everyone! I'm researching hanging, full suspension, and was curious if anyone found any info on how it feels like? In my case, it's most likely gonna be a short drop, so death by strangulation / asphyxia, depending on my luck. But opinions on how this feels like are diverse, ranging from...
We've attached the researchs and footage of real people (including the aftermath) in the other thread, which you abandoned.
It's not a matter of luck, but of doing the procedure correctly.
The thread you cited isn't even worth considering; they're talking about partial hanging, which is a total waste of time. It's more used to get attention than as a method of suicide (no offense but it's the truth)
And I doubt anyone who has done FSH is alive to tell the tale, unless their rope or anchor point has broken (and that is the person's fault for choosing poor materials and location, not the method)
Gustav Hartmann
Enlightened
- Aug 28, 2021
- 1,087
Long drop hanging is more complicated and sophisticated than it seems. You need more information than the tables of the drop lenghts as a function of the bodyweight. An suitable mechanical model is mass-spring-system. There are two springs in series, the one is the rope and the otherone the neck. The spring stiffness of a rope is inversely proportional to it´s lenght, as Robert Hooke found in 1678. Long drop hanging only works if the stiffnes of the rope is much higher than the stiffness of the neck, it would definitively not work with a bungee or a climbing rope. Unfortunately the lenght of rope has to be in the range of the length of the drop. Therefore the ropes for long drop hanging are very thick and prestretched.
Another point is the position of the noose. At the end of the drop it is ideally under the chin. As the knot moves around the neck when it slides down the rope and the noose tightens, the noose has to be positioned between ear and eye. When the noose is put in the wrong way around the neck it moves to the back of the neck and the neck will probably not breake. You can watch this effect by short drop hangings too, the noose is never directly at the back unless you precompensate the movement before you step off the stool.
And what is the benefit of this complicated procedure? When the delinquent is so lucky that his neck is broken and the spinal cord is severed it does not mean that he instantly looses consciousness. He is paraplegic and one will not see convulsions, but science is not sure whether a severed spinal cord effects immediate black out.
Another point is the position of the noose. At the end of the drop it is ideally under the chin. As the knot moves around the neck when it slides down the rope and the noose tightens, the noose has to be positioned between ear and eye. When the noose is put in the wrong way around the neck it moves to the back of the neck and the neck will probably not breake. You can watch this effect by short drop hangings too, the noose is never directly at the back unless you precompensate the movement before you step off the stool.
And what is the benefit of this complicated procedure? When the delinquent is so lucky that his neck is broken and the spinal cord is severed it does not mean that he instantly looses consciousness. He is paraplegic and one will not see convulsions, but science is not sure whether a severed spinal cord effects immediate black out.
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