Venting Life is ugly.

[Saponification]

Life is ugly. I was watching gore videos. They don't stir any positive feelings in me—I just feel the need to expose myself to the worst that life can offer. I remind myself of how repulsive life is. From the very beginning life has been about pain and dying. From animals devouring eachother to cartel executions or whatever violence humans inflict on eachother with the purpose of causing as much suffering as possible. I hate it. Why is reality like this? Why does it have to be so ugly? Why does nobody see life for what it is?

Just let me out. I don't believe in God or any higher beings, but whatever it was that put me in this realm, please don't do it again. Allow me to not be for eternity.

 

[Michelstaedter]

Watching gore videos makes you even more afraid of wanting to die, not so much because it makes you insensitive to (other people's) pain, but because when you think of some way to die, you'll remember how painful it can be and how horrible it would be if, by bad luck, you survived.

ps. life is shit...

 

[WakingNightmare]

If there is a god I think they are evil, why would you make a universe where creatures can be violently killed

 

[LetMeOut67]

I just hope global warming wipes this shit away forever
It's too evil to exist
All the happiness in the world ever isn't worth one person's painful death

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I agree life is ugly evil

"Why does nobody see life for what it is?"

 

[kopebaldy]

Life is beautiful for the right people.

We aren't among those people lol.

 

[searchingforpeace]

Life is beautiful for the right people.

We aren't among those people lol.

Realistically life is beautiful for no one but they have the right brain that tells them no matter how **** their life is that it's good
This life is a tormented with only one escape and we know what that is
This life is a tormented with only one escape and we know what that is
This life is a tormented with only one escape and we know what that is

 

[Still here]

If there is a god I think they are evil, why would you make a universe where creatures can be violently killed

I wonder about this everyday....

 

[searchingforpeace]

I wonder about this everyday....

 

[friendo25]

Life is ugly. I was watching gore videos. They don't stir any positive feelings in me—I just feel the need to expose myself to the worst that life can offer. I remind myself of how repulsive life is. From the very beginning life has been about pain and dying. From animals devouring eachother to cartel executions or whatever violence humans inflict on eachother with the purpose of causing as much suffering as possible. I hate it. Why is reality like this? Why does it have to be so ugly? Why does nobody see life for what it is?

Just let me out. I don't believe in God or any higher beings, but whatever it was that put me in this realm, please don't do it again. Allow me to not be for eternity.

Why do you feel the need to expose yourself to this?

 

[tiltedcompass]

Ironically, I do watch gore videos as well but to see that I "technically" do have it better than most people in those videos. It doesn't help me feel better, it only calms me down whenever I'm having a mental breakdown.
But I agree, life in general doesn't sound appealing at all. Sometimes I feel as if I was born without a guide to have a nice and happy life. Most people seem to know what they like, they imagine how bright their future might be if they work towards it... But it just seems so bleak to me. If you're mentally ill or deemed "not normal" by others, it's already over for you. Not even the small things in life make it worth it to keep on breathing. So what even is the point of life?

 

[Saponification]

Why do you feel the need to expose yourself to this?

Because I see life as pure horror and I feel bad about myself when I am chilling and I forget that there's an unfathomable amount of sentient beings screaming in pain this instant.

 

[SoulWantsHome]

If there is a god I think they are evil (...)

I completely understand why you'd think so (as this makes perfect sense, when looked at from a purely earthly perspective) - but "God" (or more precisely, the "source") is actually good/kind/loving in reality.

If there is a god I think they are evil, why would you make a universe where creatures can be violently killed

It's in order to give souls a place where they can experience real problems/suffering.

You see, we come from a place (the spirit-world) where real problems/suffering originally doesn't exist. And so, the only way for us to experience real problems/suffering, as well as to really learn from it; is by coming to a place like earth, where real problems/suffering is at the very heart/core of existence.

But it can be difficult for us humans to truly comprehend this - because we naturally look at this from the perspective of earth, where many of us experience real problems/suffering every single day; and it can thereby be hard for us to understand just how problem-free the spirit-world actually is, and just how hungry souls thereby can be to experience a contrast to that problem-free existence.

Remember:
Experiencing real problems/suffering, brings the deepest lessons, wisdom and appreciation of things. And from a soul's point of view, experiencing a physical life that's full of problems/suffering, is interesting; as opposed to experiencing a perfect, physical life where everything works out perfectly all the time. It's the difference between having a deep life-experience, and just having a shallow life-experience. And souls fundamentally seek depth; not shallowness.

(However, souls who have had very difficult lives on planets such as earth, or who are too afraid of having very difficult lives on planets such as earth; may choose to have a simple/easy life in their next incarnation, or may choose to not incarnate at all - despite fundamentally wanting to experience depth instead of shallowness.)



And in addition to this:
As a soul advances, by having experienced and learned a lot of lessons from its incarnations on various planets, such as earth (in addition to having learned things from within the spirit-world as well); it will finally be able to re-join "God" (or more precisely, the "source") - which is what all souls fundamentally are longing for. And their longing for this, is so strong that many souls are willing to do almost anything to speed up their learning-process - by for example incarnating on planets such as earth, which are extremely challenging/problematic places, and thereby are highly effective places of learning (in other words, highly effective schools) for souls.

 

[jimmyinnout]

I agree life is ugly evil

"Why does nobody see life for what it is?"

They got lucky enough to have a sub 70 iq

Seriously, anyone that is happy with this world is fucking retarded and deserves to die more than anyone that is actively suicidal

 

[Still here]

I completely understand why you'd think so (as this makes perfect sense, when looked at from a purely earthly perspective) - but "God" (or more precisely, the "source") is actually good/kind/loving in reality.




It's in order to give souls a place where they can experience real problems/suffering.

You see, we come from a place (the spirit-world) where real problems/suffering originally doesn't exist. And so, the only way for us to experience real problems/suffering, as well as to really learn from it; is by coming to a place like earth, where real problems/suffering is at the very heart/core of existence.

But it can be difficult for us humans to truly comprehend this - because we naturally look at this from the perspective of earth, where many of us experience real problems/suffering every single day; and it can thereby be hard for us to understand just how problem-free the spirit-world actually is, and just how hungry souls thereby can be to experience a contrast to that problem-free existence.

Remember:
Experiencing real problems/suffering, brings the deepest lessons, wisdom and appreciation of things. And from a soul's point of view, experiencing a physical life that's full of problems/suffering, is interesting; as opposed to experiencing a perfect, physical life where everything works out perfectly all the time. It's the difference between having a deep life-experience, and just having a shallow life-experience. And souls fundamentally seek depth; not shallowness.

(However, souls who have had very difficult lives on planets such as earth, or who are too afraid of having very difficult lives on planets such as earth; may choose to have a simple/easy life in their next incarnation, or may choose to not incarnate at all - despite fundamentally wanting to experience depth instead of shallowness.)



And in addition to this:
As a soul advances, by having experienced and learned a lot of lessons from its incarnations on various planets, such as earth (in addition to having learned things from within the spirit-world as well); it will finally be able to re-join "God" (or more precisely, the "source") - which is what all souls fundamentally are longing for. And their longing for this, is so strong that many souls are willing to do almost anything to speed up their learning-process - by for example incarnating on planets such as earth, which are extremely challenging/problematic places, and thereby are highly effective places of learning (in other words, highly effective schools) for souls.

If this is true ...why don't I have any memories from my past existences..???

They got lucky enough to have a sub 70 iq

Seriously, anyone that is happy with this world is fucking retarded and deserves to die more than anyone that is actively suicidal

I personally think that depression, anxiety, existential despair and ideation are most reasonable responses to life especially modern day life.....you're right....

They got lucky enough to have a sub 70 iq

Seriously, anyone that is happy with this world is fucking retarded and deserves to die more than anyone that is actively suicidal

I personally think that depression, anxiety, existential despair and ideation are most reasonable responses to life especially modern day life.....you're right....

 

[SoulWantsHome]

If this is true ...why don't I have any memories from my past existences..???

It's simple:

It's because your soul-memory is temporarily wiped each time you incarnate on earth. (You get your soul-memory back once you return to the spirit-world.)

I've even experienced this "soul-memory-wipe" first-hand, during 1 of my own, spiritual experiences (which was a type of near-death-experience, even though my body wasn't actually dying). At the end of this spiritual experience of mine, I could feel most of my memory of it, being removed from me, right at the moment when I passed through the "spiritual border" and got back into my physical body. Before reaching that "spiritual border", I thought I'd never forget anything of what I'd just experienced. But right after having passed through that "spiritual border", I was left with only remembering about 50% of the spiritual experience that I had just had. So, the "soul-memory-wipe" is definitely a real thing.



The spiritual reasons behind the "soul-memory-wipe":

The "soul-memory-wipe" is performed in order to ensure both that:

- Life on earth is able to provide a highly challenging experience for souls.​

- Souls' traumas from past, physical lives, won't significantly, negatively affect their experiences and actions in their current, physical lives.​

- All the species on earth (including the human species) will be selfish, cruel and competitive enough to be able to survive.​

You see, earth can only be a highly challenging place for souls, if they feel spiritually separated/disconnected from each other, so that they thereby are comfortable with acting very selfishly and being very cruel to each other.

If all the incarnated souls on earth, had their full soul-memory intact during their life on earth; then there would be no true selfishness, and no true cruelty, in this world - and even the survival of the species themselves would be at risk.

And there would be no point for souls to even incarnate on earth, if earth was just another version of "Heaven" - as souls already have a "Heaven", back home in the spirit-world; and souls already have other, peaceful planets to incarnate on, if they truly want to experience a peaceful, physical life.



In short:
Earth primarily exist for the purpose of offering souls incredible challenges. And the only way for earth to be a place that offers souls incredible challenges, is for souls to have very selfish and cruel tendencies during their life on earth. And the only way to ensure that souls will have very selfish and cruel tendencies during their life on earth, is by temporarily removing their soul-memory - so that their altruism (their empathy and compassion towards each other) thereby is significantly reduced, during their life on earth.

In other words:
The "soul-memory-wipe" is simply a necessity, in order to make earth function as intended (namely as a very hard school for souls - which is what earth is actually known as, in the spirit-world).

 

[SoulWantsHome]

At the end of this spiritual experience of mine, I could feel most of my memory of it, being removed from me, right at the moment when I passed through the "spiritual border" and got back into my physical body.

Just a minor correction here:
In the highlighted section of this sentence, I should have written "about half" instead of "most".

So, the sentence should actually be as follows:
"At the end of this spiritual experience of mine, I could feel about half of my memory of it, being removed from me, right at the moment when I passed through the 'spiritual border' and got back into my physical body."

Just wanted to point this out (as editing is impossible on this forum, after the initial 6 hours has passed, after a post was originally posted; which is a completely braindead and frustrating rule, made by the forum-administrators).

 

[Still here]

This is very informative

It's simple:

It's because your soul-memory is temporarily wiped each time you incarnate on earth. (You get your soul-memory back once you return to the spirit-world.)

I've even experienced this "soul-memory-wipe" first-hand, during 1 of my own, spiritual experiences (which was a type of near-death-experience, even though my body wasn't actually dying). At the end of this spiritual experience of mine, I could feel most of my memory of it, being removed from me, right at the moment when I passed through the "spiritual border" and got back into my physical body. Before reaching that "spiritual border", I thought I'd never forget anything of what I'd just experienced. But right after having passed through that "spiritual border", I was left with only remembering about 50% of the spiritual experience that I had just had. So, the "soul-memory-wipe" is definitely a real thing.



The spiritual reasons behind the "soul-memory-wipe":

The "soul-memory-wipe" is performed in order to ensure both that:

- Life on earth is able to provide a highly challenging experience for souls.​

- Souls' traumas from past, physical lives, won't significantly, negatively affect their experiences and actions in their current, physical lives.​

- All the species on earth (including the human species) will be selfish, cruel and competitive enough to be able to survive.​

You see, earth can only be a highly challenging place for souls, if they feel spiritually separated/disconnected from each other, so that they thereby are comfortable with acting very selfishly and being very cruel to each other.

If all the incarnated souls on earth, had their full soul-memory intact during their life on earth; then there would be no true selfishness, and no true cruelty, in this world - and even the survival of the species themselves would be at risk.

And there would be no point for souls to even incarnate on earth, if earth was just another version of "Heaven" - as souls already have a "Heaven", back home in the spirit-world; and souls already have other, peaceful planets to incarnate on, if they truly want to experience a peaceful, physical life.



In short:
Earth primarily exist for the purpose of offering souls incredible challenges. And the only way for earth to be a place that offers souls incredible challenges, is for souls to have very selfish and cruel tendencies during their life on earth. And the only way to ensure that souls will have very selfish and cruel tendencies during their life on earth, is by temporarily removing their soul-memory - so that their altruism (their empathy and compassion towards each other) thereby is significantly reduced, during their life on earth.

In other words:
The "soul-memory-wipe" is simply a necessity, in order to make earth function as intended (namely as a very hard school for souls - which is what earth is actually known as, in the spirit-world).

This is very informative but idlk to know who is doing this soul wiping thing.....

 

[SoulWantsHome]

This is very informative but idlk to know who is doing this soul wiping thing.....

The "soul-memory-wipe" is probably performed in an automatic way (as opposed to someone manually performing it for each incarnating soul on earth). But it has probably been constructed by the "life-organizers" in the spirit-world - who are also known as "the elders" (who are old and highly advanced souls, and who play a big role in organizing the physical lives of souls on various planets that the souls incarnate on).

However, some people do retain memories of past lives, so some people clearly have less of a "soul-memory-wipe" than other people do (which is probably because having those past-lives-memories, plays an important part of their challenges and/or tasks in their current life). So, whoever is in charge of the "soul-memory-wiping", seems to have the ability to manually adjust the degree of the "soul-memory-wipe" for certain souls, in cases where such adjustments are needed.

 

[Saponification]

The "soul-memory-wipe" is probably performed in an automatic way (as opposed to someone manually performing it for each incarnating soul on earth). But it has probably been constructed by the "life-organizers" in the spirit-world - who are also known as "the elders" (who are old and highly advanced souls, and who play a big role in organizing the physical lives of souls on various planets that the souls incarnate on).

However, some people do retain memories of past lives, so some people clearly have less of a "soul-memory-wipe" than other people do (which is probably because having those past-lives-memories, plays an important part of their challenges and/or tasks in their current life). So, whoever is in charge of the "soul-memory-wiping", seems to have the ability to manually adjust the degree of the "soul-memory-wipe" for certain souls, in cases where such adjustments are needed.

No offense, but your soul fairy tale/fantasy is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. You can believe in whatever you want but you seem a little too adamant in presenting it as some kind of universal truth.

 

[SoulWantsHome]

No offense, but your soul fairy tale/fantasy is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. You can believe in whatever you want but you seem a little too adamant in presenting it as some kind of universal truth.

Sigh... You simply don't know the valid afterlife-evidences that my afterlife-related explanations are based upon. You're simply ignorant - and you don't even know it yourself.

Do some proper research into the actual afterlife-research that exists (which you clearly haven't done), before commenting on it. If you actually do that, then you'll see that what I'm saying is completely accurate, in terms of what the valid afterlife-evidences actually show.

Until then, you simply won't know how wrong you are - and that you clearly don't know what you're talking about here.



In short:
I'm simply as adamant as the valid afterlife-evidences actually allow me to be. And you would have known this yourself, if you had actually done some proper research into the actual afterlife-research that exists (which you clearly haven't done), before criticizing me.

 

[Saponification]

Sigh... You simply don't know the valid afterlife-evidences that my afterlife-related explanations are based upon. You're simply ignorant - and you don't even know it yourself.

Do some proper research into the actual afterlife-research that exists (which you clearly haven't done), before commenting on it. If you actually do that, then you'll see that what I'm saying is completely accurate, in terms of what the valid afterlife-evidences actually show.

Until then, you simply won't know how wrong you are - and that you clearly don't know what you're talking about here.



In short:
I'm simply as adamant as the valid afterlife-evidences actually allow me to be. And you would have known this yourself, if you had actually done some proper research into the actual afterlife-research that exists (which you clearly haven't done), before criticizing me.

"I'm not gonna present any evidence whatsoever for my opinion that I present as a fact, the burden is on you to look for evidence that proves my point of view"

You come across as extremely arrogant. Maybe try getting out of your bubble every once in a while. Though I do concede that my comment could have been a bit rude.

Would love to see this evidence you're thinking of if you don't mind sharing it.

 

[SoulWantsHome]

"I'm not gonna present any evidence whatsoever for my opinion that I present as a fact, the burden is on you to look for evidence that proves my point of view"

Yep. You should consider yourself lucky that you've been informed about the evidence existing at all.



The burden of proof is always equally on both the person who's making a claim, and on the person who's exposed to the claim. This is because the burden of proof is both on the person who wants to convince other people about "X", and on the person who wants to find out the truth about "X".

In other words:
Both the claimer and the listener each have a responsibility to prove/find out if a claim is true or not.

This is because:

• The claimer has a responsibility to prove that "X" is true, if the claimer actually wants to be able to convince other people about "X" being true.
• The listener has a responsibility to prove/find out if "X" is true, if the listener actually wants to find out the truth about "X".

(And people who incorrectly claim that "the burden of proof is only on the person who's making a claim", are simply too unintelligent to understand this.)

You come across as extremely arrogant. Maybe try getting out of your bubble every once in a while. Though I do concede that my comment could have been a bit rude.

I don't care if I come across as arrogant. I'm simply way too competent about things, to bother with sugar-coating things. (And I'm not in a "bubble", by the way.)

I know exactly how well-founded any of my claims are, and so OF COURSE I state things exactly as they are - especially when people are so ignorant and arrogant that they incorrectly criticize my perfectly valid statements about things.

In other words:
Do NOT challenge truly competent people. If you do, you'll get told straight up the actual facts about things - which is precisely what I did in my previous reply to you. No more, no less.

And I'm bombarded by incompetent people everywhere on the internet, all the time, regarding various topics. So, naturally, I have a very low tolerance for arrogant, incompetent people who incorrectly think that they know things that they actually have no clue about in reality. Any person in my position would have developed the same, low tolerance for this.

However, I do agree that my previous reply to you was a bit harsh - even though it was factual in nature.

Would love to see this evidence you're thinking of if you don't mind sharing it.

I have already shared most of it in another thread on this forum:

Kinda unpopular take but there is no real proof you go to hell for ctb

You have a couple of valid points but where are the articles and stuff regarding the afterlife? I wanna look more into it It's cool that you're interested in looking more into it. There are several articles, books and documentaries that collectively prove these things. (In other words, they...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[SoulWantsHome]

Sigh... You simply don't know the valid afterlife-evidences that my afterlife-related explanations are based upon. You're simply ignorant - and you don't even know it yourself.

Do some proper research into the actual afterlife-research that exists (which you clearly haven't done), before commenting on it. If you actually do that, then you'll see that what I'm saying is completely accurate, in terms of what the valid afterlife-evidences actually show.

Until then, you simply won't know how wrong you are - and that you clearly don't know what you're talking about here.



In short:
I'm simply as adamant as the valid afterlife-evidences actually allow me to be. And you would have known this yourself, if you had actually done some proper research into the actual afterlife-research that exists (which you clearly haven't done), before criticizing me.

Yep. You should consider yourself lucky that you've been informed about the evidence existing at all.



The burden of proof is always equally on both the person who's making a claim, and on the person who's exposed to the claim. This is because the burden of proof is both on the person who wants to convince other people about "X", and on the person who wants to find out the truth about "X".

In other words:
Both the claimer and the listener each have a responsibility to prove/find out if a claim is true or not.

This is because:

• The claimer has a responsibility to prove that "X" is true, if the claimer actually wants to be able to convince other people about "X" being true.
• The listener has a responsibility to prove/find out if "X" is true, if the listener actually wants to find out the truth about "X".

(And people who incorrectly claim that "the burden of proof is only on the person who's making a claim", are simply too unintelligent to understand this.)




I don't care if I come across as arrogant. I'm simply way too competent about things, to bother with sugar-coating things. (And I'm not in a "bubble", by the way.)

I know exactly how well-founded any of my claims are, and so OF COURSE I state things exactly as they are - especially when people are so ignorant and arrogant that they incorrectly criticize my perfectly valid statements about things.

In other words:
Do NOT challenge truly competent people. If you do, you'll get told straight up the actual facts about things - which is precisely what I did in my previous reply to you. No more, no less.

And I'm bombarded by incompetent people everywhere on the internet, all the time, regarding various topics. So, naturally, I have a very low tolerance for arrogant, incompetent people who incorrectly think that they know things that they actually have no clue about in reality. Any person in my position would have developed the same, low tolerance for this.

However, I do agree that my previous reply to you was a bit harsh - even though it was factual in nature.




I have already shared most of it in another thread on this forum:

Kinda unpopular take but there is no real proof you go to hell for ctb

You have a couple of valid points but where are the articles and stuff regarding the afterlife? I wanna look more into it It's cool that you're interested in looking more into it. There are several articles, books and documentaries that collectively prove these things. (In other words, they...

sanctioned-suicide.net

I just want to add to these posts of mine:
After now having slept, I can see that I clearly overreacted towards you, Saponification; and that I was unnecessary harsh/angry in my statements here.

When I wrote these posts, I hadn't slept for over 24 hours, and I was really fed up with all the incompetent critics that I constantly run into on the internet. This lead me to overreact, and be unnecessary harsh in these posts of mine. So I apologize for that.

 

[Saponification]

I just want to add to these posts of mine:
After now having slept, I can see that I clearly overreacted towards you, Saponification; and that I was unnecessary harsh/angry in my statements here.

When I wrote these posts, I hadn't slept for over 24 hours, and I was really fed up with all the incompetent critics that I constantly run into on the internet. This lead me to overreact, and be unnecessary harsh in these posts of mine. So I apologize for that.

Aww, it's ok. Perhaps I came off a bit provoking in my initial response towards you, too.

 

[SoulWantsHome]

Aww, it's ok.

That's good :)

Perhaps I came off a bit provoking in my initial response towards you, too.

A bit, yes. But I still shouldn't have overreacted the way I did, and I shouldn't have been as harsh/angry as I was.

Anyway - let's move on :)