Life is hell for some people

[EndJstifiesTheMeans]

I hate all of this, life is really hell for some people, im not stupid i know i can't be happy anymore no matter what, i wish they give me assisted suicide

 

[Darkover]

Hunger levels are rising around the world. As many as 828 million people – or 10 percent of the world's population – go to bed hungry each night that almost 1 out of every 8 people go hunger around the world everyday i don't know about you but i hate being hungery

More than 700 000 people die due to suicide every year, 1 out of 20 suicide attempts succeeds, thats 14,000,000 attempts per year, or 1,120,000,000 attempts per 80 years one lifetime, 56,000,000 people would of died via suicide within the average lifetime but over 1 in every 8 of us would of attempted suicide at least once during our lifetime

How much of the population is disabled?
Key facts. An estimated 1.3 billion people experience significant disability. This represents 16% of the world's population, or 1 in 6 of us.

24% of the world's population, which equates to 1.9 billion people, live in fragile contexts, characterized by impoverished conditions and dire circumstances. By 2030, more than half of the world's poor will live in fragile contexts.

by my calculations thats at least 3 billion people that live miserable lives if this place isn't hell i don't know what is

 

[EndJstifiesTheMeans]

Hunger levels are rising around the world. As many as 828 million people – or 10 percent of the world's population – go to bed hungry each night that almost 1 out of every 8 people go hunger around the world everyday i don't know about you but i hate being hungery

More than 700 000 people die due to suicide every year, 1 out of 20 suicide attempts succeeds, thats 14,000,000 attempts per year, or 1,120,000,000 attempts per 80 years one lifetime, 56,000,000 people would of died via suicide within the average lifetime but over 1 in every 8 of us would of attempted suicide at least once during our lifetime

How much of the population is disabled?
Key facts. An estimated 1.3 billion people experience significant disability. This represents 16% of the world's population, or 1 in 6 of us.

24% of the world's population, which equates to 1.9 billion people, live in fragile contexts, characterized by impoverished conditions and dire circumstances. By 2030, more than half of the world's poor will live in fragile contexts.

by my calculations thats at least 3 billion people that live miserable lives if this place isn't hell i don't know what is

Probably lot of "accident" are just people who commit suicide.. there is hikikomori people too, so the number probably lot high

 

[FuneralCry]

I just see existence as being something so hellish in general, having the ability to suffer endlessly truly is such a terrible thing to me, the only relief for me lies in permanent, dreamless sleep, existence is just so cruel and harmful, it's just so horrible to me how despite the fact there's all this endless torment in this world we still cannot leave in peace.

 

[venin]

Hunger levels are rising around the world. As many as 828 million people – or 10 percent of the world's population – go to bed hungry each night that almost 1 out of every 8 people go hunger around the world everyday i don't know about you but i hate being hungery

More than 700 000 people die due to suicide every year, 1 out of 20 suicide attempts succeeds, thats 14,000,000 attempts per year, or 1,120,000,000 attempts per 80 years one lifetime, 56,000,000 people would of died via suicide within the average lifetime but over 1 in every 8 of us would of attempted suicide at least once during our lifetime

How much of the population is disabled?
Key facts. An estimated 1.3 billion people experience significant disability. This represents 16% of the world's population, or 1 in 6 of us.

24% of the world's population, which equates to 1.9 billion people, live in fragile contexts, characterized by impoverished conditions and dire circumstances. By 2030, more than half of the world's poor will live in fragile contexts.

by my calculations thats at least 3 billion people that live miserable lives if this place isn't hell i don't know what is

It so fucking is. And even the normies don't have that good. It's just an appearance.

 

[Unattainable666]

I agree with you. It has always amazed me how some people carry so many burdens and pain while others (the ones who cause the pain) get through life so easily. I hate my life - if I knew for sure I would die with my method I'd be gone, but I'm terrified that I will fail (I've failed at so many other things). I wish I could just go somewhere, lay down ,get a shot of something, close my eyes and die. But there are too many people who want to control others so that will never happen. Soon I will ctb whether I succeed or not is yet to be known.

 

[venin]

I agree with you. It has always amazed me how some people carry so many burdens and pain while others (the ones who cause the pain) get through life so easily. I hate my life - if I knew for sure I would die with my method I'd be gone, but I'm terrified that I will fail (I've failed at so many other things). I wish I could just go somewhere, lay down ,get a shot of something, close my eyes and die. But there are too many people who want to control others so that will never happen. Soon I will ctb whether I succeed or not is yet to be known.

I'm sorry for your situation… Yup. I really can't understand how some of us can still believe in god after what happened to us.
I'm saying this related to the fact that abusers go on with their lives not giving a fk while we live in permanent torment.

 

[nadia225]

I hate all of this, life is really hell for some people, im not stupid i know i can't be happy anymore no matter what, i wish they give me assisted suicide

happiness is really just a concept I don't believe anybody in this world is 100% happy that is not realistic because we live in duality (ie dark and light) it's all about finding balance in this shitty realm of existence to be honest.

 

[BrutalWorldNot4me]

I hate all of this, life is really hell for some people, im not stupid i know i can't be happy anymore no matter what, i wish they give me assisted suicide

I have sleep apnea and stop breathing 10 times an hour. I can never get rem. It actually is torture.

 

[Captive_Mind515]

happiness is really just a concept I don't believe anybody in this world is 100% happy that is not realistic because we live in duality (ie dark and light) it's all about finding balance in this shitty realm of existence to be honest.

Considering how badly many people suffer in this life, I don't think many of us are even asking or expecting 100% happiness. Just a measure of it.

And it's not just conceptual in nature. People are acutely aware when they're not happy, to such an extent that they are contemplating the complete destruction of their being as a direct reaction to not experiencing happiness. That's not just a "concept" it's a lived experience!

 

[nadia225]

Considering how badly many people suffer in this life, I don't think many of us are even asking or expecting 100% happiness. Just a measure of it.

And it's not just conceptual in nature. People are acutely aware when they're not happy, to such an extent that they are contemplating the complete destruction of their being as a direct reaction to not experiencing happiness. That's not just a "concept" it's a lived experience!

I think you are misunderstanding when I say happiness is a "concept" I mean it as it is a emotion that is temporary like any other emotion only being reacted by analyzing what the concept of happiness means to you or what gives you that happiness. Sometimes as humans we get so fixed on trying to become happy all the time based on what makes other happy and we ultimately end up being left unfulfilled. instead of just being content with things in a way that is fulfilling meaninful to you which takes time and energy to figure out . everything has to release sometimes it is learning how to experience it and accept something different in way that bearable to you that brings fulfillment not ruled by anybody else but you. I'm not disagreeing with you that it is a lived experience but it is also fleeting like every other experience and emotions we feel that come along with the experience. With that being said my main point is that the feeling you are looking for is not one that just comes to you it is one you have to seek and open yourself up to in order to receive. There are many people who deal with extreme suffering but choose to view things different so it bearable and fulfilling to them finding a positive purpose is in a undesirable situation is feasible it just depends on if you want to choose to dictate yourself, feelings, mind, body, choices all that or let somebody/ situation do so for you. Not easy whatsoever but possible.

 

[leloyon]

I don't get people who claim to have any degree of empathy or even emotional intelligence who try to use those desperate excuses to keep people alive. Arguing that life is inherently good or that things will get better somehow.
There are eight billion people now, there is so much to suffer from that one can have no idea the amount of suffering someone else is going through unless they are extremely close to them personally.
Should I tell that little girl who gets raped on the daily by the staff of the orphanage she resides in that her life is inherently good? Should I argue with the starving children in any of the many impoverished countries that things will get better, refusing to acknowledge that they will die of malnutrition in a week anyway?
How about the people with treatment-resistant mental illnesses? How about the following examples, even, if they were to escape from the situations I described? That little girl will likely never be able to sleep without waking up screaming, never be able to trust anyone, never be able to relax and let her guard down.
I suppose we should have sent some pro-lifers to preach to Sylvia Likens and Junko Furuta, that would have helped.

 

[Captive_Mind515]

I think you are misunderstanding when I say happiness is a "concept" I mean it as it is a emotion that is temporary like any other emotion only being reacted by analyzing what the concept of happiness means to you or what gives you that happiness. Sometimes as humans we get so fixed on trying to become happy all the time based on what makes other happy and we ultimately end up being left unfulfilled. instead of just being content with things in a way that is fulfilling meaninful to you which takes time and energy to figure out . everything has to release sometimes it is learning how to experience it and accept something different in way that bearable to you that brings fulfillment not ruled by anybody else but you. I'm not disagreeing with you that it is a lived experience but it is also fleeting like every other experience and emotions we feel that come along with the experience. With that being said my main point is that the feeling you are looking for is not one that just comes to you it is one you have to seek and open yourself up to in order to receive. There are many people who deal with extreme suffering but choose to view things different so it bearable and fulfilling to them finding a positive purpose is in a undesirable situation is feasible it just depends on if you want to choose to dictate yourself, feelings, mind, body, choices all that or let somebody/ situation do so for you. Not easy whatsoever but possible.

I still don't see how describing happiness as a "concept" can be accurate for many individuals.

People living in unbearable pain/suffering are not bad at conceptualising happiness. They are experiencing very real and very serious impediments to being happy, that very often don't have solutions - hence their desperation to ctb.

 

[doneforlife]

I don't get people who claim to have any degree of empathy or even emotional intelligence who try to use those desperate excuses to keep people alive. Arguing that life is inherently good or that things will get better somehow.
There are eight billion people now, there is so much to suffer from that one can have no idea the amount of suffering someone else is going through unless they are extremely close to them personally.
Should I tell that little girl who gets raped on the daily by the staff of the orphanage she resides in that her life is inherently good? Should I argue with the starving children in any of the many impoverished countries that things will get better, refusing to acknowledge that they will die of malnutrition in a week anyway?
How about the people with treatment-resistant mental illnesses? How about the following examples, even, if they were to escape from the situations I described? That little girl will likely never be able to sleep without waking up screaming, never be able to trust anyone, never be able to relax and let her guard down.
I suppose we should have sent some pro-lifers to preach to Sylvia Likens and Junko Furuta, that would have helped.

Good that you mentioned this. We always talk about VAD or right to die if someone has physical or mental illness. What about someone who is unable to earn a good livelihood for themselves? After trying out all ways , what if they continue to remain in the same hell they were born into? Make no mistake, I am not saying they all should die . But if they want to , then you have no right to say otherwise. And if you want to help them out , please help in a way that will make them want to live life.

 

[leloyon]

Good that you mentioned this. We always talk about VAD or right to die if someone has physical or mental illness. What about someone who is unable to earn a good livelihood for themselves? After trying out all ways , what if they continue to remain in the same hell they were born into? Make no mistake, I am not saying they all should die . But if they want to , then you have no right to say otherwise. And if you want to help them out , please help in a way that will make them want to live life.

Exactly. In my opinion, life should be entirely optional. Full body autonomy. If you want it to end, you should be allowed that unconditionally, emphasis on unconditionally (looking at you, Exit International). Rights are for everyone.
But since the topic was about how life is suffering, that was my two cents. There's a lot that someone can be suffering from in the world and some of us really won't get any respite, won't ever be able to escape from what is making their life unbearable. I feel as if pro-lifers completely disregard this, but why should I be surprised when disregarding other people's problems is basically their whole shtick?
Even if the cause of their suffering isn't a diagnosable illness, physical or mental, that doesn't make their suffering less valid if it's willing to make them actively want to end their life to escape from it, especially when it's clear that there's no escape, it likely won't end at any point. I don't think these people should be pressured to end their life or continue to live for that matter, but they should be allowed to make either choice for themselves without being shamed.
For some people, the only light at the end of the tunnel would be a train heading right for them.

 

[nadia225]

I still don't see how describing happiness as a "concept" can be accurate for many individuals.

People living in unbearable pain/suffering are not bad at conceptualising happiness. They are experiencing very real and very serious impediments to being happy, that very often don't have solutions - hence their desperation to ctb.

I 100% agree with you sometimes you cannot achieve what you need to on this realm of existence as I don't view life as just living here which is why for some including myself I believe cbt is a way to do what is need to do so relieve suffering and to achieve the fulfillment that you desire. Only if you are absolutely sure that it cannot be done with the body and the mind you were given. Because personally my belief is that we have to confront those emotions and experiences that causes agony eventually when we leave these flesh vessels, we just won't be constrained anymore so it is actually achievable to do. (I don't view this as black and white for everybody it is purely circumstantial) it's all about recognizing yourself and your power in your life and taking control of your reality and if that is cbt then by all means take that route to appreciate the beauty of life/existing in itself.


Many people deal with physical ailments that make it nearly impossible for them to enjoy life or mental disorders caused by upbringing or environment experiences that we where unaware of and had no control of making it nearly impossible to rectify those issues here so sometimes we have to exit to heal ourselves and find the peace.

I believe it becomes a problem when you aren't doing it for yourself but you are doing it for others such as (school is hard or I broke up with my partner or my parents suck or I'm in debt) without recognizing what is truly causing you deep despair and if it is fixable.

because they all stem from somewhere and if it is possible for you to do then I recommend overcoming and putting in the work to self assess and grow into your own being(taking back control) and choose what makes you "happy" (ie finding balance) (I dislike using that word) to making living more enjoyable then not but if you are sure that it isn't (like me) to achieve what you need then exiting this realm and the body can be a way to find that. But there is no escaping yourself either way because these bodies are just temporary vehicles but our internal consciousness is forever.

Every decision is yours and regardless when you leave this earth you are still going to have to live with that decision just make sure you are doing what you genuinely feel like is right.
I'm sorry if I'm not explaining this well since the way I view it is deeply complex and it is very hard for me to put into words in a concise manner.