Life is fundamentally wrong

[Life sucks]

Hi,
The title says it all. Life is a collection of problems and if we focus on the abstract/basic level, it is a big terrifying problem.
Humans go through the life by using lies and illusions. By constantly lying and not looking at the truth, they continue absurdly in an absurd world and life.
That's why many hate thinking and logic, that's why they try to control knowledge as much as they can and keep people ignorant. Once someone learn the reality of life, its like a nightmare to that person, it removes the illusions and lies that one relies to continue living.
That's why humans stay in absurdity, because looking at the truth and logical thinking threatens their lives and causes them cognitive dissonance.

About the problems themselves , its really uncountable. I don't know if I explained well or if someone reached this level. It is really terrifying.

For example, one consciousness is something like a first person point of view and the rest are all a collection of first point of views. When those views gets together, conflicts and misunderstandings will occur and this is a fundamental problem of life.


When one know about all of this, it exposes everything but the cost is great which can be one's own life. I understand how its just a constant biological programming and feeding lies but humans themselves are capable of reaching the truth and exposing the lies. It is like a broken simulation game and creatures know they are in a game instead of just being robot-like.

 

[IsadoraBeauxdraps]

Hi,
The title says it all. Life is a collection of problems and if we focus on the abstract/basic level, it is a big terrifying problem.
Humans go through the life by using lies and illusions. By constantly lying and not looking at the truth, they continue absurdly in an absurd world and life.
That's why many hate thinking and logic, that's why they try to control knowledge as much as they can and keep people ignorant. Once someone learn the reality of life, its like a nightmare to that person, it removes the illusions and lies that one relies to continue living.
That's why humans stay in absurdity, because looking at the truth and logical thinking threatens their lives and causes them cognitive dissonance.

About the problems themselves , its really uncountable. I don't know if I explained well or if someone reached this level. It is really terrifying.

For example, one consciousness is something like a first person point of view and the rest are all a collection of first point of views. When those views gets together, conflicts and misunderstandings will occur and this is a fundamental problem of life.


When one know about all of this, it exposes everything but the cost is great which can be one's own life. I understand how its just a constant biological programming and feeding lies but humans themselves are capable of reaching the truth and exposing the lies. It is like a broken simulation game and creatures know they are in a game instead of just being robot-like.

The more time passes, the less I understand what « reaching the truth » means.
But surely we can step back

 

[Zal]

Yes, so much this. Life is something that should not have happened in the first place. What guarantees does life give? Suffering. Everything that is alive and conscious will suffer in one form or another. And there is nothing they can do to prevent that. I mean even if one were to be able to ignore most of those, in the end, they will die. As long as they have that knowledge, and still want to live, they will suffer as a result of dying at one point of time. Even if it were a peaceful death. Well, or the alternative is that they don't have a choice. They might die peacefully without awareness. But those are the rare cases.
If life were to be removed, then most problems could be solved at once, because there is no one for problems to be problematic anymore.

 

[Painpleasure]

Most choose to ignore their inevitable demise through death. Paying too much attention to the futility of life would bring into question to meaningfulness of their efforts. If it difficult to come to the rational and obvious conclusion that all our actions and efforts will count for nothing one day and yet STILL choose to partake in this useless experiment that is life.

It is far more comfortable to turn a blind eye to all this simply exist because you ARE and not pay too much mind to why exactly it is that you ARE.

Willful ignorance is perhaps the only way to survive and navigate through this messy life for fear of losing your mind to the absurdity of it all. C'est la vie

 

[ish]

It seems to me that the problem of life evaluation depends on
the position of the evaluative . If a specific person
identifies with and is associated with a group, community etc.
does not feel the need for individual assessment of life.
Unfortunately, everyone comes in his own life
a moment of personal reflection, it's like secret knowledge.
The veil of illusion falls, we begin to see absurdities
and contradictions, we see that we really are
more and more lonely, hardly anyone cares about ours
problems, everybody dies sometime.
It looks like collective consciousness (living forever)
it exchanged its elemental ingredients (just like a living organism
lists cells) being the individual consciousness of man.
In all this it's inhuman that
-individual consciousness is trying to overcome the instinct to survive(works regardless of will).
For the existence of collective consciousness, living people are needed -
so far it is only the goal of the evolution of life on earth.
A single person and his consciousness mean nothing.
Truth is like a cup of bitterness.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

You have to be delusional to be happy. To see how life really is causes great pain. It's intelligence that causes us to try and peek behind the curtain. Wasn't original sin in the Bible eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge? Better to be happy than to be right.

 

[ish]

You have to be delusional to be happy. To see how life really is causes great pain. It's intelligence that causes us to try and peek behind the curtain. Wasn't original sin in the Bible eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge? Better to be happy than to be right.

It's not what you think, unfortunately we are subject to life
our instincts, it happens from the youngest years.
Understanding and cognition occurs with age
and we humans have no influence over it. In other words
if God wanted man to live in ignorance
it would be like that. We are doomed to acquire and
deepening knowledge from the tree of knowledge,
that was the "creation plan".