Let's talk about Critical Race Theory!

[October112021]

Now, the reactionaries, small businesses and so on, are the only ones paying attention to it, but they misinterpret it because they identify themselves with the capitalist system. This is false consciousness. Their solition is to elect Trump or whatever, and if that doesn't work to "pull a 1776" and re-establish smal business. They will lose, and necessarily lose, because the capitalist State serves the real capitalist interest - Trump isn't going to side with small businesses against his own class; they don't actually hate him, they just pretend to do so on TV. In doing so they will justify the open seizure of petit-bourgeois property and Capital's further concentration and accumulation, and will be returned to the ranks of the working class.

After all, do you think John who runs a paint factory will set aside his nationalist xenophobia to side with Hector the landscaper against Klaus Schwab? No. The petite bourgeoisie can not present a unified world front to fight it, which is necessary. They also cannot advocate for abolishing capitalism, i.e. commodity production for exchange, which is necessary to do so. Neither can they set aside their individual interests as competitors, even within their own nationality etc. So the Great Reset goes through.

Then, much down the line, when everyone really is living in pod and eating bug, the working classes, like the Morlocks of Wells' Time Machine, will have to revolt. And there will be no small business mediator class to be pit against them this time.

 

[Julgran]

Neither can they set aside their individual interests as competitors, even within their own nationality etc.

I see what you mean, and this part is definitley true - this kind of competition is built into capitalism, which is one of its downsides.

 

[October112021]

I see what you mean, and this part is definitley true - this kind of competition is built into capitalism, which is one of its downsides.

So you take it all and add it up, and what do you get?

- Karl Marx essentially predicted the Great Reset. It's caused by the tendency of the rate of profit fall. Thr tendency of the rste of profit to fall is caused by the growth of labor saving devices, technology, in the economy.this - because all profit comes from surplus labor To fight it, the ruling class deploys any means necessary - and I mean any means - to immiserate the workers and ruin their fighting potential, from feeding them shitty food to raising the cost of housing to keeping wages stagnant to fighting wars, propagating false ideologies and religions, stirring up political partisanship, lying about what socialism is (it is not when THE GUBBMINT DOES STUFF), etc. etc.

- The small business class sees the writing on the wall and wants to fight back, but only to re-establish its own conditions of existence. But its own conditions of existence (competition, nationalism etc.) prevent it from being able to do so effectively. They all get turned out into the ranks of the workers. Capital consolidates.

- Now you have a massively expanded working class with absolutely no ability to advance, to acquire property or do much of anything except die an masse when the famines etc. start coming. The only, only possible solution then is world revolution.

And that is Marx's theory of Communism.

And how does this tie back into Critical Race Theory etc.? Because it's propaganda to divide the workers on the basis of race to prevent them from uniting on the basis of class.

 

[October112021]

I am far from the only Marxist to link Marx's prediction of immiseration to the Great Reset btw.

 

[Julgran]

So you take it all and add it up, and what do you get?

- Karl Marx essentially predicted the Great Reset. It's caused by the tendency of the rate of profit fall. Thr tendency of the rste of profit to fall is caused by the growth of labor saving devices, technology, in the economy.this - because all profit comes from surplus labor To fight it, the ruling class deploys any means necessary - and I mean any means - to immiserate the workers and ruin their fighting potential, from feeding them shitty food to raising the cost of housing to keeping wages stagnant to fighting wars, propagating false ideologies and religions, stirring up political partisanship, lying about what socialism is (it is not when THE GUBBMINT DOES STUFF), etc. etc.

- The small business class sees the writing on the wall and wants to fight back, but only to re-establish its own conditions of existence. But its own conditions of existence (competition, nationalism etc.) prevent it from being able to do so effectively. They all get turned out into the ranks of the workers. Capital consolidates.

- Now you have a massively expanded working class with absolutely no ability to advance, to acquire property or do much of anything except die an masse when the famines etc. start coming. The only, only possible solution then is world revolution.

And that is Marx's theory of Communism.

And how does this tie back into Critical Race Theory etc.? Because it's propaganda to divide the workers on the basis of race to prevent them from uniting on the basis of class.

I am far from the only Marxist to link Marx's prediction of immiseration to the Great Reset btw.

I see your points, but would a world revolution even bring any positive results, in the end..? In other words, isn't our society already over-populated enough so that the same problems will remain after the revolution, if people keep being "useless eaters" and we can't sustain everyone..?

 

[whatevs]

He was an incredibly intelligent man. He had an IQ of 167. Astonishing.

Overrated IMO, but still an extraordinary man.

 

[October112021]

I see your points, but would a world revolution even bring any positive results, in the end..? In other words, isn't our society already over-populated enough so that the same problems will remain after the revolution, if people keep being "useless eaters" and we can't sustain everyone..?

The rich, the poor and the future of the earth: equity in a constrained world - World

Analysis in English on World about Climate Change and Environment; published on 23 Apr 2012 by Christian Aid

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For instance, the average American uses 176 gallons of water a day while the average African family uses just 5 gallons. And while the average person in the UK emits 10.7 million tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent every year, in the world's 48 Least Developed Countries (including Afghanistan, Burkina Faso, Haiti, Bangladesh, Ethiopia and Sudan), the average is just 1.7 million tonnes a year.
Inequality in a Constrained World says that overall, the wealthiest 20 per cent of the world's population consume 80 per cent of resources such as water and land. By contrast, the poorest 20 cent do not have enough to meet their basic needs - and account for just 1.3 per cent of global resource consumption.

Take away Al Gore's private jet and mansions, and Bill Gates' farmland, and Trump's hotels, etc.

 

[Julgran]

The rich, the poor and the future of the earth: equity in a constrained world - World

Analysis in English on World about Climate Change and Environment; published on 23 Apr 2012 by Christian Aid

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Take away Al Gore's private jet and mansions, and Bill Gates' farmland, and Trump's hotels, etc.

How does taking away those lavish resources from the rich make life any better for the poor parts of the world from this quote..?

 

[October112021]

How does taking away those lavish resources from the rich make life any better for the poor parts of the world from this quote..?

Because you can then redistribute them, of course.

But you see, American and Western middle-class resistance to the idea of revolution is precisely why we're going to get Great Resetted instead, so that the wealthy get.absolutely everythg and the middle-class gets to be proletarian again. It's what the middle-class actually wants.

 

[Julgran]

Because you can then redistribute them, of course.

What I meant is that taking away mansions, yachts and other useless things will not suddently make additional food appear into the world, so which measures would you propose to save most humans on this planet..?

But you see, American and Western middle-class resistance to the idea of revolution is precisely why we're going to get Great Resetted instead, so that the wealthy get.absolutely everythg and the middle-class gets to be proletarian again. It's what the middle-class actually wants.

Will there even be a middle-class soon...? Won't every just be either extremely rich or extremely poor..?

 

[October112021]

What I meant is that taking away mansions, yachts and other useless things will not suddently make additional food appear into the world, so which measures would you propose to save most humans on this planet..?



Will there even be a middle-class soon...? Won't every just be either extremely rich or extremely poor..?

1. Stripping the capitalists of their power and operating the means of production socially.

2. Yes, exactly. But that's inbaked into capitalism.

Person:

"These rich people are doing x,y, z."

Other person:

"Yep."

Person:

"That's bad."

Other person:

"Yep."

Person:

"We should stop this from happening."

Other person:

"Nah."

 

[Julgran]

1. Stripping the capitalists of their power and operating the means of production socially.

2. Yes, exactly. But that's inbaked into capitalism.

Person:

"These rich people are doing x,y, z."

Other person:

"Yep."

Person:

"That's bad."

Other person:

"Yep."

Person:

"We should stop this from happening."

Other person:

"Nah."

Where would you draw the line between hard-working, regular people who own businesses, on the one hand - and greedy corporatists, on the other..?

 

[October112021]

Where would you draw the line between hard-working, regular people who own businesses, on the one hand - and greedy corporatists, on the other..?

The regular, hardworking people won't exist by the time this all goes down. I have said it already, it is destined to lose. There won't be small businesses owners on the eve of revolution.

 

[Julgran]

The regular, hardworking people won't exist by the time this all goes down. I have said it already, it is destined to lose. There won't be small businesses owners on the eve of revolution.

I agree with this, but you seem to believe that at least some problems can be solved by taking away luxuries from the ultra rich people, so where does the line go that determines that a person is only slightly rich and still a "good person"..?

 

[October112021]

I agree with this, but you seem to believe that at least some problems can be solved by taking away luxuries from the ultra rich people, so where does the line go that determines that a person is only slightly rich and still a "good person"..?

It is not a matter of good or bad.

This world is completely deterministic. All of the events I have described are events that are happening and which have been happening for centuries.

 

[Julgran]

It is not a matter of good or bad.

This world is completely deterministic. All of the events I have described are events that are happening and which have been happening for centuries.

So - in the end, is there a way for society to overcome all those problems - like seizing the means of production - or is there no solution in the long run..?

 

[October112021]

So - in the end, is there a way for society to overcome all those problems - like seizing the means of production - or is there no solution in the long run..?

Yes. Seizing the means of production.

 

[Julgran]

Yes. Seizing the means of production.

...and this seizing of the means of production needs to follow a world revolution, as you see it..? I can't see that happening, mostly, but I guess it depends on how desperate the living conditions will get in the coming months and years.

 

[LesbianCarpetPython]

If you ask a right winger what it is, you'll either get nothing or a wrong answer. It's a buzzword to them, nothing more.

 

[Kawika12]

CRT supporters are racists and race hustlers.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Race is not socially constructed, it is biologically grounded and natural. Speciation will not work without races. Homo sapiens in not the end of evolution but a snapshot. Next steps could be complete erasure, genetic engineering or the domination through the machines.

 

[Doctors HATE them]

Race is not socially constructed, it is biologically grounded and natural. Speciation will not work without races. Homo sapiens in not the end of evolution but a snapshot. Next steps could be complete erasure, genetic engineering or the domination through the machines.

You're partially right, but races are much more akin to breeds of dogs and cats than to something like a subspecies. People are very much not speciating just as cats and dogs aren't. Especially with the current ease of travel, I don't see humans splitting into two; it's more likely that we all move forward as one species.
Also, to say that race is not socially constructed is blatantly false. Irish and slavic people used to not be considered white. Before anything else that may be grounded in reality, race is a distinction made by people in power to ostracize whoever they see fit. X group of countries are political enemies? They aren't really Y race then. Every country does it. Race is used to "other" people and serve your own interests. It is a privilege that can be given and taken.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

You're partially right, but races are much more akin to breeds of dogs and cats than to something like a subspecies. People are very much not speciating just as cats and dogs aren't. Especially with the current ease of travel, I don't see humans splitting into two; it's more likely that we all move forward as one species.
Also, to say that race is not socially constructed is blatantly false. Irish and slavic people used to not be considered white. Before anything else that may be grounded in reality, race is a distinction made by people in power to ostracize whoever they see fit. X group of countries are political enemies? They aren't really Y race then. Every country does it. Race is used to "other" people and serve your own interests. It is a privilege that can be given and taken.

The splitting of the homo sapiens has just begun. The social and health system in some countries lead to degeneration and the increasing splitting in rich and poor allows the rich to transform themselves to a superior race by means of genetic engineering. Extraterrestrial settlement will also lead to new races and species. A higher mutatioin rate after an atomic war might also develope creatures we cannot imagine right now.