Method Let’s discuss: Phenazopyridine. SN Alt?

[idonthaveanother]

Phenazopyridine, or Azo. Overdose of this drug will induce either methemoglobinemia or sulfhemoglobinemia. The first being what SN does. The latter of which is irreversible with methylene blue. Acute renal failure is a possibility, but the onset of the other two symptoms will occur first, meaning one would be knocked out before that could even happen/ be processed in the kidneys/liver. Additionally, someone who WAS saved from this, suffered no kidney damage and was sent home with a normal functioning set of kidneys. This product is available everywhere otc. Why should one not consider this product to CTB? I'm not seeing any solid reasons. Other side effects as well, but most are similar to SN. Let's discuss.

 

[Darkover]

The oral LD50 of phenazopyridine in rats is 472 mg/kg

 

[idonthaveanother]

Few articles (first one mentions case where kidney returned to normal action):

Acute renal failure due to phenazopyridine (Pyridium) overdose: case report and review of the literature - PubMed

Phenazopyridine (Pyridium) is a commonly used urinary tract analgesic. It has been associated with yellow skin discoloration, hemolytic anemia, methemoglobinemia, and acute renal failure, especially in patients with preexisting kidney disease. We report a 17-year-old female with vertically...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0196064480802708

Phenazopyridine-induced sulfhemoglobinemia - PubMed

This case of sulfhemoglobinemia, which occurred after the patient took phenazopyridine, is considered a probable adverse event according to the Naranjo probability scale.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[squirley]

Does the OTC provide a high enough dose ?
Or would you need to take a shit load a pills ?
Also it says the methemoglobinemia is rare and with pre-existing conditions.

The oral LD50 of phenazopyridine in rats is 472 mg/kg

Exactly so if weight 150 pounds.
That's like 3 pills a pound ?

 

[idonthaveanother]

Does the OTC provide a high enough dose ?
Or would you need to take a shit load a pills ?
Also it says the methemoglobinemia is rare and with pre-existing conditions.

Exactly so if weight 150 pounds.
That's like 3 pills a pound ?

One of the above articles says a woman took 24, which would be one box. I don't know how to convert rat ld50 to human. I'm also not entirely clear on if ld50 = the same as what it take to stop your body from getting oxygen, or if that's referring to toxicity in general? That's why I'm here to discuss it. Additionally, these are pills, not a salt. So it's not like you'd be tasting something foul over and over.

 

[12_Years_Late]

Another CTB method that no one else has ever heard of, what a hoot!

One of the above articles says a woman took 24, which would be one box. I don't know how to convert rat ld50 to human. I'm also not entirely clear on if ld50 = the same as what it take to stop your body from getting oxygen, or if that's referring to toxicity in general? That's why I'm here to discuss it. Additionally, these are pills, not a salt. So it's not like you'd be tasting something foul over and over.

So, essentially, we should consume at least two entire boxes of Azo? Would we open up the pill capsules and mix them with water/alcohol? How long would it take to achieve the desired effect in that case?

Now start looking for the next headline, "Azo shortage across the country, people stock up boxes in attempt to join the afterlife."

 

[stilhavinightmares]

I literally just read about this in an old poison book my friend has. I'm interested.

 

[squirley]

One of the above articles says a woman took 24, which would be one box. I don't know how to convert rat ld50 to human. I'm also not entirely clear on if ld50 = the same as what it take to stop your body from getting oxygen, or if that's referring to toxicity in general? That's why I'm here to discuss it. Additionally, these are pills, not a salt. So it's not like you'd be tasting something foul over and over.

I get it , but both the people.
One was super old and taking it for awhile.
The other one was young but has HIV
pre conditions , prolonged use.
And 1 of them survived.
Not sure about the old one

Just seems like you would have to eat 50 of these and who knows what would happen really. Untill someone tries ? Maybe ? Lol

I've been recently thinking about the cherry pits. Cyanide theory.

 

[sserafim]

I literally just read about this in an old poison book my friend has. I'm interested.

Ooo this sounds cool

 

[idonthaveanother]

Another CTB method that no one else has ever heard of, what a hoot!

So, essentially, we should consume at least two entire boxes of Azo? Would we open up the pill capsules and mix them with water/alcohol? How long would it take to achieve the desired effect in that case?

Now start looking for the next headline, "Azo shortage across the country, people stock up boxes in attempt to join the afterlife."

If I was going to do it, I'd take two boxes probably, based on the fact that the one woman took one. I would just take the pills as is with water. I don't think I'd crush and mix or anything. I have no idea how long it would take to work on me. I suspect not long.

I literally just read about this in an old poison book my friend has. I'm interested.

Yeah so I guess I have something here.