Venting Lack of information and censorship

[acey]

I'm so pissed about the lack of information about suicide. And I dont mean information about the right of people to die or how to commit suicide even.

Googling ANYTHING suicide related will instantly just redirect you to helplines (and we all know how helpful these are). As someone who lost friends and my only sibling to suicide, I really need/ed help, not just support (it all feels fake anyway and nobody knows what to say/do) but even just stories of other people who went through similar things. Especially parents because I would like to help my parents feel less alone.

We all know many people CTB. Especially as a funeral worker I am hyper aware of it, including young kids or old people and very rarely does this information gets released even within related schools and communities.

I get that they are trying to prevent more deaths, but alienating people who have to deal with it and making them feel like they are totally insane or alone in contemplating suicide is messed up.

The fact you need to dig through so much shit just to find someone share what they went through or how they got over it is ridiculous.


And just want to emphasize again how much I hate the instant redirects to helplines or information that is not in your query. Remind me of wanting to research a new beer I want to try and getting AA on google. I fucking hate this. We are already all born alone on this earth and doomed to die alone, now we have the internet, let us utilize it properly for fucks sake

 

[Timothy7dff]

I noticed that, too. These evil companies draw some pretty arbitrary lines.

 

[UKscotty]

It's difficult for society to manage I think.

Luckily the vast majority of people do get better and recover. Suicide rates are very low, way less than 0.01% of the population.

It's a balance of getting people to help, but letting those too far gone have the information.

You can usually find Suicide information a few results down the page so personally I don't think it's too bad to have help and support as the first small handful of results.

Definitely a hard fine balance though and I'm glad I don't make the decisions on it.

 

[acey]

It's difficult for society to manage I think.

Luckily the vast majority of people do get better and recover. Suicide rates are very low, way less than 0.01% of the population.

It's a balance of getting people to help, but letting those too far gone have the information.

You can usually find Suicide information a few results down the page so personally I don't think it's too bad to have help and support as the first small handful of results.

Definitely a hard fine balance though and I'm glad I don't make the decisions on it.

I get what you're saying, and I would generally agree however I think to the vast majority of heavily suicidal people the help they offer is often not helpful and sometimes pushes people over the edge. Also these helplines don't generally care unless you're about to do it in which case the "help" offered is calling the cops or sending you to a mental hospital. In the 2nd case, in many countries the hospital bill will be on you. In the first case, if an ambulance is called, often the bill is on you too.
And regardless, the fact that it's so difficult to find information on how to deal with the aftermath just because your query has the word "suicide" is ridiculous.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

First, change your search engine to one that doesn't censor. Google is evil.

 

[Dr. Finklestein]

It's a largely quiet problem. If you say anything, you start losing the ability to make your own decisions. If you're like me, this is unacceptable. So you go on feeling this way, and denying it when asked. When in reality people like me are closer to ctb than you can imagine. Every detail is prepared, now just have to have the courage.

 

[Edistrying]

i have the same feeling as you. when i was so deep I call this phones and it was a shit, now Im thinking seriously open a Instagram to talk about suicide with the perpestive of a suicidal (me haha) but I just dont know

 

[BlazingBob]

Google is worthless. I started using the Internet in 1995. It was better in a lot of ways back then. The suicide prevention results are annoying as hell.

 

[DontTouchMeImFamous]

Googling ANYTHING suicide related will instantly just redirect you to helplines

Same. I can't explain how frustrated it is for me when I see these results. It makes me feel stigmatized, really. And I'm sure I'm not alone. Censoring these information and making suicidal people feel like they are wrong and shouldn't be thinking this way will only make these people less comfortable with their feeling and would feel more reluctant to confront them and would lead them to stop talking about them and feel more lonely and result in a perverse outcome by making these people more prone to suicide. Even when they are trying to make us feel we are not alone and able to speak about it, they are literally censoring everything and this would only naturally make this topic stigmatized

Google is worthless. I started using the Internet in 1995. It was better in a lot of ways back then. The suicide prevention results are annoying as hell.

agreed. I suggest using Yandex, it censors nothing, by nothing I mean NOTHING.

 

[willitpass]

It used to be much more accessible. 10 years ago if you googled suicide methods you'd get a brief banner with the suicide hotline but the first website would be Lost All Hope. I think I noticed a change around 5 years ago or so. Maybe it was 2020. That would make sense considering the way the pandemic made mental health an everyone problem.

 

[heavyeyes]

agreed. I suggest using Yandex, it censors nothing, by nothing I mean NOTHING.

How do you use yandex?

 

[DontTouchMeImFamous]

How do you use yandex?

Sorry for the late reply. Yandex is a search engine just like Google. You can use it by going to Yandex.com

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Sorry for the late reply. Yandex is a search engine just like Google. You can use it by going to Yandex.com

I agree. Google is evil. They want to control everyone