pharmacoepia

pharmacoepia

STEM nerd that is pro-CTB. Asmov looks far-out eh?
Apr 9, 2023
106
Once you hear about the stuff that they do in South Korea, I honestly wouldn't blame him. Constant unhealthy amounts of fasting are common in the industry, and perverts and paparazzi make life hell for those in k-pop.
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,740
Unfortunately this happens so often in the Kpop industry, idols are under so much pressure to succeed and live up to a glamorized and imperfect image that's impossible to attain. Rest easy, Moonbin.

 
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7thundercloud

7thundercloud

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Apr 2, 2023
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Jonghyun, Sulli, Goo Hara, Moonbin. There's a couple more but these are the most recent once since 2017. I love k-pop but I truly feel horrible for the idols. Westerners and k-netizens ridicule them for not being perfect. A famous solo artist IU was best friends with sulli and goo hara, they've been harassing IU too - calling her racist, a pedo (??). It's sad to see how horrible people can be, they're self centered and think they themselves are perfect.
 
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glitterypearls

glitterypearls

sing me to sleep
Mar 23, 2023
183
It's what the industry does to you unless you are lucky, I mean what do you expect gonna happen when they start to train ACTUAL kids then now debut them as 13, 14, 15 and 16 all while forcing them to get plastic surgery at a very young age (biggest example wonyoung). It destroys the person completely and it will lead to things like this or best case life-long eating disorder.
 
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uglybunny

uglybunny

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Apr 18, 2023
6
I saw this today and my first thought was that he committed because of the circumstances around it :( may he rest in peace <3
 
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hellispink

hellispink

poisonous
May 26, 2022
1,231
Valuable souls we keep losing. This society is shit and is rotten. I still remember when Suli did it because cyberbullyng. Humans are disgusting. He had so much to give but life is just a misery. I have no doubt he has a wonderful human being. Rest in peace fly high
 
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Obliviate

Obliviate

Abandon All Hope
Aug 13, 2022
800
I am sooooo shook. I literally just found out on tiktok. I had just found Astro a bit ago and wow this was unexpected! These celebrity suicides really show you that both life and death are nothing
 
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terminalending

terminalending

Student
Feb 18, 2023
148
may he rest in peace
 
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Obliviate

Obliviate

Abandon All Hope
Aug 13, 2022
800
There are some seriously fucked up things happening in korea and no one is stopping it. So sad, I hope all he rests in peace and other victims can somehow get their peace.
 
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nosoul

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Apr 1, 2023
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There are some seriously fucked up things happening in korea and no one is stopping it. So sad, I hope all he rests in peace and other victims can somehow get their peace.
have you heard some things? I know it happens frequently but not sure of the darker reasons behind it.
 
sick.faery

sick.faery

Mar 18, 2021
284
when i saw an article about it i thought it was like a joke or something..
i'm so shocked
 
OceanBlue

OceanBlue

Feminist
Jun 13, 2021
701
I hope it wasn't because of his perfectionism, he worried so much about mistakes whilst performing, even though you can't get more perfect than him in that field.

He deserved a peaceful way out, I hope that's how he left. At least it was before he had children.

Rest in Peace 🤍🤍🤍
MoonBin
 
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l0stc4use

l0stc4use

lonely
May 6, 2022
115
rest in peace moonbin, i hope he knows that he is loved by so many ❤️
 
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Obliviate

Obliviate

Abandon All Hope
Aug 13, 2022
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have you heard some things? I know it happens frequently but not sure of the darker reasons behind it.
From my research their societal culture is very cruel and toxic. Rape, murder, mental health is widely dismissed. Suicide rate is one of the top in the world. Strict harsh teaching and education is implemented. Corruption, sexism, violence etc etc. Apparently Kpop idols have to go through harsh rigorous trainings with again no regard for mental health and even worse if you are a woman and don't meet the ideal standards.
 
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nosoul

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Apr 1, 2023
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From my research their societal culture is very cruel and toxic. Rape, murder, mental health is widely dismissed. Suicide rate is one of the top in the world. Strict harsh teaching and education is implemented. Corruption, sexism, violence etc etc. Apparently Kpop idols have to go through harsh rigorous trainings with again no regard for mental health and even worse if you are a woman and don't meet the ideal standards.
That's awful, yeah with money and global fame the abuse must be rampant, even in America there were 2 actors who ctb
 
Obliviate

Obliviate

Abandon All Hope
Aug 13, 2022
800
That's awful, yeah with money and global fame the abuse must be rampant, even in America there were 2 actors who ctb
I always imagine with celebrities like wow they have so many people who love and adore them, have all the money in the world, some even have friends and family and support who care about them and even they get depressed, lonely and suicidal and we normal average people have none of that and have even more reasons to CTB. It really shows you how cruel this world is, even with everything you feel like you have nothing.
 
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nosoul

Arcanist
Apr 1, 2023
454
I always imagine with celebrities like wow they have so many people who love and adore them, have all the money in the world, some even have friends and family and support who care about them and even they get depressed, lonely and suicidal and we normal average people have none of that and have even more reasons to CTB. It really shows you how cruel this world is, even with everything you feel like you have nothing.
Chris Cornell was odd to me, being a white male, handsome, rock star, I wonder what he was feeling. Ugh I need my AEs. I have SN and benzos, but I'm still afraid of it. But I know my brain is so fried, time is ticking for me, can't eat or sleep properly, I'm sad for myself that I'm ctbing if this makes sense. Do u feel SN is extremely effective?
 
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WorthlessTrash

WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
2,425
I always imagine with celebrities like wow they have so many people who love and adore them, have all the money in the world, some even have friends and family and support who care about them and even they get depressed, lonely and suicidal and we normal average people have none of that and have even more reasons to CTB. It really shows you how cruel this world is, even with everything you feel like you have nothing.
That's how i feel towards people I envy, but yeah everyone has their reasons for CTBing ig. Even if I would kill (myself) to have their life.
 
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Obliviate

Obliviate

Abandon All Hope
Aug 13, 2022
800
Chris Cornell was odd to me, being a white male, handsome, rock star, I wonder what he was feeling. Ugh I need my AEs. I have SN and benzos, but I'm still afraid of it. But I know my brain is so fried, time is ticking for me, can't eat or sleep properly, I'm sad for myself that I'm ctbing if this makes sense. Do u feel SN is extremely effective?
It's the best thing average people have 🙂 I'm terrified but don't really feel comfortable with the other intense CTB methods
 
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niki wonoto

Student
Oct 10, 2019
109
Big celebrities/stars & famous people's suicide cases like this always proves that even 'privilege' and being lucky (or fortunate) can *STILL* somehow make a person want to commit suicide (ctb), for different various reasons, and sometimes even for unknown reasons that we probably will never know.

Honestly, I hate it when people keep talking about being 'privileged', as if when you're a privileged person, it will 100% guarantee your life will be oh so happy, perfect, successful, all rainbows & flowers. How naive, ignorant, one-dimensional, & simple-minded most people are.

Just because I was from quite a 'privileged' economic/financial & family background, doesn't mean that I can't be depressed & suicidal. In fact, it doesn't always necessarily mean that ALL those people who are suicidal automatically come from a less privileged background/condition/situation/circumstances etc etc etc.

It's just really sad & frustrating, that even in this forum, there're still posts that talks & shun people with 'privileged' (or 'spoiled') background. It just makes me feel even more guilty, worthless, and much more depressed & suicidal.

Life is not that simple.
 
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Teikoku

Teikoku

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Mar 18, 2023
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Honestly, I hate it when people keep talking about being 'privileged', as if when you're a privileged person, it will 100% guarantee your life will be oh so happy, perfect, successful, all rainbows & flowers. How naive, ignorant, one-dimensional, & simple-minded most people are.

Just because I was from quite a 'privileged' economic/financial & family background, doesn't mean that I can't be depressed & suicidal. In fact, it doesn't always necessarily mean that ALL those people who are suicidal automatically come from a less privileged background/condition/situation/circumstances etc etc etc.
I agree it's frustrating that people often think that having a comfortable start means you will glide through life without any issues. Parental and personal expectations tend to be very high when you come from a reasonably well-off family and if you're the only fuck up then you tend to stand out and get ostracised somewhat.

Even worse when you appear to others to be normal but inside you're fighting a losing battle with some kind of mental anxiety or dysphoria.
 
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soolka

soolka

ʚ♡ɞ killing me softly ʚ♡ɞ
Apr 13, 2023
70
i miss him so much, but i hope he found peace
 
WorthlessTrash

WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
2,425
Big celebrities/stars & famous people's suicide cases like this always proves that even 'privilege' and being lucky (or fortunate) can *STILL* somehow make a person want to commit suicide (ctb), for different various reasons, and sometimes even for unknown reasons that we probably will never know.

Honestly, I hate it when people keep talking about being 'privileged', as if when you're a privileged person, it will 100% guarantee your life will be oh so happy, perfect, successful, all rainbows & flowers. How naive, ignorant, one-dimensional, & simple-minded most people are.

Just because I was from quite a 'privileged' economic/financial & family background, doesn't mean that I can't be depressed & suicidal. In fact, it doesn't always necessarily mean that ALL those people who are suicidal automatically come from a less privileged background/condition/situation/circumstances etc etc etc.

It's just really sad & frustrating, that even in this forum, there're still posts that talks & shun people with 'privileged' (or 'spoiled') background. It just makes me feel even more guilty, worthless, and much more depressed & suicidal.

Life is not that simple.
While I understand your frustration, if those privileged people didn't have MI or trauma, their lives would objectively be 100x better than your average ss user. As someone who suffers from a body issue (thanks to dysphoria), I can only look at attractive people of the sex I wish was as privileged and envy them. Us "average" sasu people cannot emphasize with the privileged people (whom don't show obvious signs of depression) because we are only able to experience what we are going through, and believe our lives would be much better if we were in their position. Jealousy is a natural human emotion.

Let's compare someone "privileged" with no MI or trauma to an average sasu user, or even average person in general. Who do you think is happier and living the better life? When the lowest of the low are living a shitty life with multiple issues, including financial and body related problems, it is impossible not to be envious or resentful of those that we deem "privileged" or living a better life. There are some people on this site that even I am extremely envious of, despite them having their reasons for being here. We're all battling our own wars, and going through our own problems. As much as we would like to say so, we cannot relate to each other as much as we would like to say we could. The only similarity most of us have here are our desire to cease and exist.

Unfortunately, Moonbin was going through stuff that us looking on the outside could not and did not see. It is unfortunate that his life brought him to this decision, but I hope he is in a better place.
 
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OceanBlue

OceanBlue

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Jun 13, 2021
701
Privileged does not mean that your life is perfect, it means there are things you never experience and bc of this you are privileged over those who do. The inequality is structural, privilege is backed by institutional power. There are many characteristics that intersect in this theory - it's called intersectionality.

Unfortunately, Moonbin was going through stuff that us looking on the outside could not and did not see. It is unfortunate that his life brought him to this decision, but I hope he is in a better place.
Being a kpop star is just a job, they are not the center of this industry - we don't see most of the people involved.

There's a lot of pressure when you're a public figure and everyone's hyperfocused on your looks and performance: I'm sure he was worried about ageing, noticed his body getting weaker - same as athletes. They still have performance reviews, bosses, managers, who often are unbearable and dishonest.

The "normal" was different for him, he did not struggle for necessities anymore, but it created other problems - no anonymity, the press looking for scandals, disingenuous users, even antis and stalkers. You might dislike being a product others invest in expecting to turn a profit, Knetz are not the kindest consumers either. Idols often complain about loneliness, depression, anxiety.

It's obvious that fame and money don't change this world, everything stays ugly, awareness will still crush you. You will get ridiculed for ageing and eventually end up forgotten. It's delusional to idealize this lifestyle.

Maybe he decided to leave when he was at his best, that industry is brutal and demanding - we're part of it and we consumed him.

Whatever the reason, he was still very brave to make this decision for himself. It's the real salvation to be rid of this place. 🕊️
 
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