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It simply depends on how fast you pass out and that mainly depends on whether your carotids are blocked and therefor the brian is out of oxygen. That's the crucical point imo. Full suspension is foolproofe regardless if it takes a few seconds or minutes.


imo partial has a far higher failure rate than full suspension, why is full suspension whether long or short drop always used in executions? I've never seen someone surving this.
This seconds feeling like hours is a interesting concept. Apparently animals like dogs have no perception of time, that's why if you leave the house and come back in ten minutes or ten hours, it'll be the same reaction.

Indeed, obviously partial is more accessible and the perceived peacefulness greater, but for me, success is top of the tree. The more I looked into partial (which I was initially set on) the more I became disheartened.
I didnt know partial can be considered not full proof. this is a bit disturbing. I plan to go to go to a forest and do partial but i dont want to fail and go back home with hanging marks.
 
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I didnt know partial can be considered not full proof. this is a bit disturbing. I plan to go to go to a forest and do partial but i dont want to fail and go back home with hanging marks.
That's exactly the thing. Partial is certainly effective if you passout quickly and while passed out already your movements don't "rescue" yourself. There are many reports about failed partial attempts here. That's why I would always do full suspension, if I chose hanging, once the chair is kicked there is no way back, whether quick passout or slow. This is just my opinion.
 
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That's exactly the thing. Partial is certainly effective if you passout quickly and while passed out already your movements don't "rescue" yourself. There are many reports about failed partial attempts here. That's why I would always do full suspension, if I chose hanging, once the chair is kicked there is no way back, whether quick passout or slow. This is just my opinion.
This is really useful, i dont know how this aspect never occured to me. although i guess it matters less if you dont have a limit on how many times you can retry, you could just do it continuously until you succeed because it's not very painful.
Thank you very much for your input.
 
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That's why I would always do full suspension, if I chose hanging, once the chair is kicked there is no way back, whether quick passout or slow.
Yeah! It's a tradeoff between peacefulness and effectiveness, I'm willing to accept that there will be some amount of pain before I lose consciousness when I do full sus. I want to have a 1 out of 1 attempt success rate.
 
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a limit on how many times you can retry
If it fails and you end up with brain damage due of lack of oxygen then maybe you never try it again. When it comes to CTB there is only 1 attempt and this attempt must be successful there's nothing to try x amount of times with any methods. This is just my opinion.
 
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That's exactly the thing. Partial is certainly effective if you passout quickly and while passed out already your movements don't "rescue" yourself. There are many reports about failed partial attempts here. That's why I would always do full suspension, if I chose hanging, once the chair is kicked there is no way back, whether quick passout or slow. This is just my opinion.
If you're determined to die, then don't go halfhearted, that's my motto.
This is really useful, i dont know how this aspect never occured to me. although i guess it matters less if you dont have a limit on how many times you can retry, you could just do it continuously until you succeed because it's not very painful.
Thank you very much for your input.
I strongly advise you do more research as it sounds like you're really not sure how this all works. I'm not being patronising, I'm just trying to help you.
 
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Hanging has never been a good option for me - there are many better ways to go - anyway you mean a a lot to me so if you need someone to talk to feel free to pm me, *hugs*
 
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If it fails and you end up with brain damage due to lack of lack of oxygen then maybe you never try it again. When it comes to CTB there is only 1 attempt and this attempt must be successful there's nothing to try x amount of times with any methods. This is just my opinion.
I have always considered it possible you could get brain damage from failed hanging... I havent researched it but ive never heard of any examples of this, so maybe its not possible (?)

personally I wouldnt like to do an "attempt at CTB" too
 
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I have always considered it possible you could get brain damage from failed hanging... I havent researched it but ive never heard of any examples of this, so maybe its not possible (?)
If someone really survived such an attempt with heavy brain damage I'm pretty sure they will not be active here anymore. Anyway brain damage happens due to lack of oxygen whether this appears by hanging or other influences, the results are the same.
 
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We very recently had a case here in the UK of man who killed a police officer and then turn the gun on himself (specifically, the neck). He is called Louis De Soyza and now he can't walk and can hardly talk, and is serving a whole life sentence, both physically and mentally. Why is this relevant? Because he sustained exactly the same injuries as you could expect from a deep failed hanging I.e severe anoxic brain injuries. It doesn't matter the method, the results are often the same.
 
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Based on videos I ruled out train.
I was legit surprised with how long people can stay concious after attempts that weren't instant death. Also the rows of people with their phone out around them is terrible.
 

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