Just Being Alive Requires So Much Work/Maintenance It's Exhausting.

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

Wake up , then you have to make your bed and tidy up , then you have to poop or else tummy hurt, then wash butt or else smell, then shower or else smell, then brush teeth or else smell breath or get cavities / tooth decay / gum disease . Then spend time making breakfast , then eat or else tummy hurt and feel weak, then clips your nails/shave , then have to becareful not to hurt yourself and take care of your precious body, have to work out and exercise or else you will suffer and get weak, have to keep your mind busy or youd get bored and more upset, have to keep the house clean , have to interact with people and have good social skills or be a lonely outcast, dress nice, be achieving to have admirable traits to be liked in society, then have to worry worry about money money money , then have to cut your hair, then have to have sexual urges, then have wet dreams and wake up to clean yourself , women have periods terrible , then you get sick or flu, then you have to go out and be careful not to get robbed or get knocked, then you have to deal with loved ones dying , then you have to watch your eyesight, then you have to take shit and drama from people and if you fight back you become the bad person , then you have to worry about your future, then you have regrets of the past and stress about things , then you have to act a certain way and be a certain way , then you have to go for blood tests, then go for waxing , then move houses, then worrry about things not working........ many more issues and things you have to do in life X infinity. I DID NOT ASK FOR ANY OF THIS.

 

[Hopeless_brat]

Wake up , then you have to make your bed and tidy up , then you have to poop or else tummy hurt, then wash butt or else smell, then shower or else smell, then brush teeth or else smell breath or get cavities / tooth decay / gum disease . Then spend time making breakfast , then eat or else tummy hurt and feel weak, then clips your nails/shave , then have to becareful not to hurt yourself and take care of your precious body, have to work out and exercise or else you will suffer and get weak, have to keep your mind busy or youd get bored and more upset, have to keep the house clean , have to interact with people and have good social skills or be a lonely outcast, dress nice, be achieving to have admirable traits to be liked in society, then have to worry worry about money money money , then have to cut your hair, then have to have sexual urges, then have wet dreams and wake up to clean yourself , women have periods terrible , then you get sick or flu, then you have to go out and be careful not to get robbed or get knocked, then you have to deal with loved ones dying , then you have to watch your eyesight, then you have to take shit and drama from people and if you fight back you become the bad person , then you have to worry about your future, then you have regrets of the past and stress about things , then you have to act a certain way and be a certain way , then you have to go for blood tests, then go for waxing , then move houses, then worrry about things not working........ many more issues and things you have to do in life X infinity. I DID NOT ASK FOR ANY OF THIS.

I didn't asked for this either, nobody gives a fuck , this universe was made so we can suffer.

 

[right:sun]

"How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 8:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so? "
Charles Bukowski

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

"How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 8:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so? "
Charles Bukowski

Wow exactly this.

 

[Huntfish34]

Yepp,. Life on life's terms. Couldn't agree with y'all anymore ! Fuck,. Fml -

I wish you nothing but the best in whatever may happen.

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

I wish you nothing but the best in whatever may happen.

thanks friend and to you too

 

[whatevs]

The fundamental flaw in this line of thinking is mindlessly asserting that you didn't ask for this. Of course you did. You are an inmortal impulse that was eager to exist in human form at this point in time. Take ownership of this horrible world. We created it and it is a reflection of each of us. Now, we probably can turn our backs on it or tame the will to exist via asceticism so we can 'move on' from 'life', but the first stumbling block I see all the time in the forum is evading the responsability we all have for existing.

 

[FuneralCry]

To me it is horrifying that life is even a thing in the first place. Existence is so pointless and unnecessary and I want nothing to do with this life. Life is just suffering for the sake of it and I could never want to live no matter what. It is so awful how things can always get so much worse than they currently are. I envy those who are dead as they cannot think or feel and they do not have to experience anything ever again. I just want to be gone.

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

you are an immoral impulse that was eager to exist in human form at this point in time

wrong .

To me it is horrifying that life is even a thing in the first place. Existence is so pointless and unnecessary and I want nothing to do with this life. Life is just suffering for the sake of it and I could never want to live no matter what. It is so awful how things can always get so much worse than they currently are. I envy those who are dead as they cannot think or feel and they do not have to experience anything ever again. I just want to be gone.

i feel the exact same way friend.

 

[Viafactorum]

The fundamental flaw in this line of thinking is mindlessly asserting that you didn't ask for this. Of course you did. You are an inmortal impulse that was eager to exist in human form at this point in time. Take ownership of this horrible world. We created it and it is a reflection of each of us. Now, we probably can turn our backs on it or tame the will to exist via asceticism so we can 'move on' from 'life', but the first stumbling block I see all the time in the forum is evading the responsability we all have for existing.

We have no "responsibility" to exist, just as a the weathering of a rock is not the responsibility of the rock. The pseudo science bs that we are some ethereal soul pulse that get's dropped into this world from the void is a foolish notion. It makes no sense. Nobody asks to be alive. We are the irresponsibility of our parents. The ones that birthed you cursed you to this terrible life. Tell me who would wish to exist in this crowded world that operates on a dog eats dog policy? You must be some supreme sadist to want to put yourself into such a sad situation. Nobody asked to be alive hence nobody has to take responsibility for existing. Nobody is "evading" responsibility on this forum, we simply never wanted this dreary task of living in this world so how can you say we are responsible. It's like giving the task of building the international space station to a crackhead that didn't graduate preschool and then shaming them for not being able to do it. Nobody asked for this, and this whole spiritual nonsense of "inmortal impulse" may sound good but it ain't worth chicken shit.

 

[dtjb]

Agreed, being alive and dealing with the constant maintenance of everything from your body to your living space to relationships to work and more is just exhausting and barely worth the effort you have to put into it. I'm off of work today but I still have a bunch of work to do because of all of what you described. So tedious.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

The fundamental flaw in this line of thinking is mindlessly asserting that you didn't ask for this. Of course you did. You are an inmortal impulse that was eager to exist in human form at this point in time. Take ownership of this horrible world. We created it and it is a reflection of each of us. Now, we probably can turn our backs on it or tame the will to exist via asceticism so we can 'move on' from 'life', but the first stumbling block I see all the time in the forum is evading the responsability we all have for existing.

i don't agree with what you say in your post. i didn't have any choice in being born. imo none of us did. What proof or evidence do you have of what you say?
By evidence i mean scientific experimental evidence from multiple sources not opinion.
There have been experiments that showed the chemical origin of life :

Miller–Urey experiment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Origin of life -- a prebiotic route to DNA

DNA, the hereditary material, may have appeared on Earth earlier than has been assumed hitherto. Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet (LMU) in Munich chemists led by Oliver Trapp show that a simple reaction pathway could have given rise to DNA subunits on the early Earth.

www.eurekalert.org

Abiogenesis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Zerengin96]

"How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 8:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so? "
Charles Bukowski

8:30 am? How about 5:30 am in my case. Just kidding, i agree with everything he said

 

[whatevs]

We have no "responsibility" to exist, just as a the weathering of a rock is not the responsibility of the rock. The pseudo science bs that we are some ethereal soul pulse that get's dropped into this world from the void is a foolish notion. It makes no sense. Nobody asks to be alive. We are the irresponsibility of our parents. The ones that birthed you cursed you to this terrible life. Tell me who would wish to exist in this crowded world that operates on a dog eats dog policy? You must be some supreme sadist to want to put yourself into such a sad situation. Nobody asked to be alive hence nobody has to take responsibility for existing. Nobody is "evading" responsibility on this forum, we simply never wanted this dreary task of living in this world so how can you say we are responsible. It's like giving the task of building the international space station to a crackhead that didn't graduate preschool and then shaming them for not being able to do it. Nobody asked for this, and this whole spiritual nonsense of "inmortal impulse" may sound good but it ain't worth chicken shit.

So you are saying something can come from nothing? That life, this struggling, coordinated, systematic and exuberant force came from a 'void' that hasn't been scientifically proven to exist? 'Nothingness' doesn't exist, and neither does 'randomness'.

Furthermore, aren't your urges, your instincts, your birth and death a holographic reflection of things we can find in other lifeforms, or in all matter stripping them to the most abstract form?

Don't you get angry and retaliate? Don't you lie? Why is so hard to see we are are particles that make up the whole, and that this world is how it wants to be, and that we exist because we wanted ergo we carry responsability?

Why do males and females are drawn to fucking and yielding offspring? Why lifeforms are drawn to life and are scared of dying? 'Evolution, genes, and so on'. So? That explains even less that characterizing what's going on as some kind of ethereal impulse that is always going forward for whatever reason, enamoured with a world of suffering that it itself creates.

To recap, I'm a spiritual type of efilist. Life is awful, enslavement, filth, misery, but before killing myself if I ever will I need to make sure I take responsibility for being sperm, a baby, a lustful teenager, and the metaphysical counterparts of these things. I believe that just killing yourself while you covet life or have resentment will not work. You have to leave with the correct mindset.

 

[Mthom2]

I frequently wonder about humanity's status as intelligent beings. Now is no different...

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

So you are saying something can come from nothing? That life, this struggling, coordinated, systematic and exuberant force came from a 'void' that hasn't been scientifically proven to exist? 'Nothingness' doesn't exist, and neither does 'randomness'.

Furthermore, aren't your urges, your instincts, your birth and death a holographic reflection of things we can find in other lifeforms, or in all matter stripping them to the most abstract form?

Don't you get angry and retaliate? Don't you lie? Why is so hard to see we are are particles that make up the whole, and that this world is how it wants to be, and that we exist because we wanted ergo we carry responsability?

Why do males and females are drawn to fucking and yielding offspring? Why lifeforms are drawn to life and scared if dying? 'Evolution, genes, and so on'. So? That explains even less that characterizing what's going on as some kind of ethereal impulse that is always going forward for whatever reason, enamoured with a world of suffering that it itself creates.

To recap, I'm a spiritual type of efilist. Life is awful, enslavement, filth, misery, but before killing myself if I ever will I need to make sure I take responsibility for being sperm, a baby, a lustful teenager, and the metaphysical counterparts of these things. I believe that just killing yourself while you covet life or have resentment will not work. You have to leave with the correct mindset.

youre smarter and more rational than this bud.

the fastest sperm fertilized the egg we were the sperm who then turned into a fetus then grew up and as our brains developed then "we developed" you are your brain. look at people who have brain injuries for changes in personality or brain death for death. Thats it, no pseudoscience bs. Its not like we were floating in space waiting to be born, that defies physical law and science.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

youre smarter and more rational than this bud.

the fastest sperm fertilized the egg we were the sperm who then turned into a fetus then grew up and as our brains developed then "we developed" you are your brain. look at people who have brain injuries for changes in personality or brain death for death. Thats it, no pseudoscience bs. Its not like we were floating in space waiting to be born, that defies physical law and science.

@MicropBaldCurrycel i agree i am my brain. And also your brain changes every year even sooner. So who you are changes. i'm not the same person i was at 1 day old, 6 months old, 1 year, 2 years, 5 years, 10 years old , 15 years old, 25 years that i am now. It was a different person each year. etc. imo a human is just a brain.

What did i or anyone know at 6 months old? I still don't know anything. Just recently starting to realize what reality is and how bad life really is imo . All the education imo i recieved in the past was false, all the beliefs etc.
If you don't have the correct beliefs that align with reality it's very hard to be functional much less a winner in this world or this universe.

 

[DerTod]

Agreed, being alive and dealing with the constant maintenance of everything from your body to your living space to relationships to work and more is just exhausting and barely worth the effort you have to put into it. I'm off of work today but I still have a bunch of work to do because of all of what you described. So tedious.

Sorry for being off topic but i just wanna say that i love your Elliott Smith photo. He's one of my favorite musicians!

 

[Viafactorum]

So you are saying something can come from nothing? That life, this struggling, coordinated, systematic and exuberant force came from a 'void' that hasn't been scientifically proven to exist? 'Nothingness' doesn't exist, and neither does 'randomness'.

Furthermore, aren't your urges, your instincts, your birth and death a holographic reflection of things we can find in other lifeforms, or in all matter stripping them to the most abstract form?

Don't you get angry and retaliate? Don't you lie? Why is so hard to see we are are particles that make up the whole, and that this world is how it wants to be, and that we exist because we wanted ergo we carry responsability?

Why do males and females are drawn to fucking and yielding offspring? Why lifeforms are drawn to life and are scared of dying? 'Evolution, genes, and so on'. So? That explains even less that characterizing what's going on as some kind of ethereal impulse that is always going forward for whatever reason, enamoured with a world of suffering that it itself creates.

To recap, I'm a spiritual type of efilist. Life is awful, enslavement, filth, misery, but before killing myself if I ever will I need to make sure I take responsibility for being sperm, a baby, a lustful teenager, and the metaphysical counterparts of these things. I believe that just killing yourself while you covet life or have resentment will not work. You have to leave with the correct mindset.

Chaos is a very real and observed aspect of this world, hence "randomness" does exist. "Nothingness" also exists, just look into the atom and you will see that nothing exists between the electrons and the nucleus of the atom. The phenomena have been observed in this physical world and extensively studied and classified so denying their existence is a purely pseudo scientific approach. There is nothing unique about your thoughts and emotions, they are just the biochemical interactions between the various enzymes and hormones in your body. There is no "greater" purpose to life. We are born, we live on, and then we die and from our ashes or detritus new life is born. This is the same for any animal that lives on this planet, for the plants the mechanisms are slightly different.

Life as you know it had it's humble beginnings on the young Earth's surface which was ravaged by violent weather. The ocean served as the ideal medium in which the atmospheric chemicals could interact and form the first organic compounds which eventually paved the way for life. There is no need for the consciousness for a person to come from some higher plane of existence, consciousness is a consequence of humanity's survival instincts, one which can be observed in almost every living being. Nobody wished to be conscious hence nobody needs to take responsibility for this life.

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

Chaos is a very real and observed aspect of this world, hence "randomness" does exist. "Nothingness" also exists, just look into the into the atom and you will see that nothing exists between the electrons and the nucleus of the atom. The phenomena have been observed in this physical world and extensively studied and classified so denying their existence is a purely pseudo scientific approach. There is nothing unique about your thoughts and emotions, they are just the electrical discharge between neurons and the biochemical interactions between the various enzymes and hormones in your body. There is no "greater" purpose to life. We are born, we live on, and then we die and form our ashes or detritus is born new life. This is the same for any animal that lives on this planet, for the plans the mechanisms are slightly different.

Life as you know it had it's humble beginning in the juvenile Earth's surface that was ravaged by violent weather. The ocean served as the ideal medium in which the atmospheric chemicals could interact and form the first organic compounds which eventually paved the way for life. There is no need for the consciousness for a person to come from some higher plane of existence, consciousness is a consequence of humanity's survival instincts, one which can be observed in almost every living being. Nobody wished to be conscious hence nobody needs to take responsibility for this life.

very well said and intelligent.

 

[hopelessdreams]

the thing is: we "get" to do these things, we don't "have" to. we could all rot away in our beds if we wanted to, and some of us do or have done that. in the grand scheme, life can indeed seem very overwhelming. it is. we have to deal with this shit because we're already here. the only way to live life and bear all the suffering is to find a meaning and purpose as to why you're here. but that's the hardest part. not everyone finds meaning.

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

we could all rot away in our beds if we wanted to

even that leads to many complications, illness and pains.

Trust me i been neet and ldar all my life. now i have hernias / breathing problems / Hammeroids / overweight / bad joints/ weak / poor blood circulations /digestion issues.

Had i been moving around, eating right, living a normie life id be healthier and i wish i didnt have these issues. They cause so much problems.

IN life its damned if you do damned if you don't.

Death is the only way you avoid this.

 

[hopelessdreams]

even that leads to many complications, illness and pains.

Trust me i been neet and ldar all my life. now i have hernias / breathing problems / Hammeroids / overweight / bad joints/ weak / poor blood circulations /digestion issues.

Had i been moving around, eating right, living a normie life id be healthier and i wish i didnt have these issues. They cause so much problems.

IN life its damned if you do damned if you don't.

Death is the only way you avoid this.

i completely understand. thing with life is: easy decisions lead to a hard life, and hard decisions lead to an easy life. im totally with you, but these problems we can "undo" with taking proper care of ourselves. you can always start a conversation with me if you want to vent or some advice! good luck my friend

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

asy decisions lead to a hard life, and hard decisions lead to an easy life.

The Myth Of Sisyphus .....⛰

 

[GetMeOut]

make your bed and tidy up

I have done neither of these things for decades. Cleaning my teeth now happens 4 times a week, though occasionally for not as long two weeks. I'm slightly better with showering. I shave my neck once a week, the rest gets shaved off every once a month or once every few months. Not had my hair cut for 8 months The grooming habits and personal hygiene of a man who long ago gave up.

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

I have done neither of these things for decades. Cleaning my teeth now happens 4 times a week, though occasionally for not as long two weeks. I'm slightly better with showering. I shave my neck once a week, the rest gets shaved off every once a month or once every few months. Not had my hair cut for 8 months The grooming habits and personal hygiene of a man who long ago gave up.

i understand, im half way there myself.

 

[Resinn66]

Everyone should read David Benatar. "Better Never To Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence". He explains all the philosophical issues

 

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

Everyone should read David Benatar. "Better Never To Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence". He explains all the philosophical issues

havent read it but i agree with the sentiment already.

 

[Cathy Ames]

and hard decisions lead to an easy life.

Nope. Sometimes they do, and sometimes they do not.

 

[jimmy7754]

I need to disappear..