Jumping from a roof or in front of a train?

[ferac]

Hello everyone,
I simply can't go on anymore. I'm asking for your help to decide how to kill myself. I have chosen two different options:
1) Jumping from a building of 20 floors under costrunction but abandoned, constructor company went bankrupt
2) Jumping in front of a train

There are some little extra information to be considered.
For option number 1, although the building is abandoned it is surrounded by an easily climbable fence but it is in the middle of a city so the best option would be to do it late at night with a flashlight, but with the danger of being seen by someone.

Option number 2 can be done at any time. There is a point from the forest that gives directly onto the tracks (in which freight and direct trains also run) and it could be done at any hour.

What do you think is the best option? Thank you

 

[iloverachel]

I am sorry you are in so much pain my friend
I am really no expert and do not know the answer to your question. Personally, If i had to pick between those 2, probably jumping.

But whatever you decide to do, I hope it is painless and brings you peace
Please keep us updated we are here to listen

 

[SadTitan]

personally id go with option 1, it won't to stain people with unnessesary blood or trauma. I'd want to execute ctb plans as least convenient as possible for those around me.

 

[heatdeath]

Jumping in front of a train might traumatize people if they saw plus delay everyone by hours. I feel like a building that high should probably do the trick.

Whatever you choose to do, I hope you find peace soon friend.

 

[justcallmeJ]

Im sorry life made you choose between these kind of options ;(
I would say jumping also, train method can traumatize the train driver, and cause huge delays, and maybe huge problems for some of them.

 

[Agon321]

Jumping is a much better option (in my opinion).

You just have to jump from a high enough height.

I'm not familiar with the physics of jumping, but I found this information in another thread.
Someone else can verify.

 

[Linda]

20 floors is certainly enough to die if you land on a hard surface (such as concrete), and probably enough if you land on something else. Throwing yourself in front of a train involves so many variables that it's a rather upredictable method, and I think you would be best to avoid it.

 

[deadbody]

I would choose the jump. This height will be enough to kill you. Regardless of which method you choose, I wish you good luck and eternal peace.

 

[bFre3]

I've talked to some train drivers in the past (on matters completely unrelated), and the discussion of people jumping in front of trains came up. None of them wanted to talk about it, but they did tell me it's one of the reasons why they get paid a lot (in Australia, at least). I'm assuming not many people can actually take the 'guilt' of hitting someone.

I'm not saying you shouldn't consider it as an option. All I'm trying to say is that please do consider this factor when you make your choice.

 

[rozeske]

Sorry you are left to choose between those two. They both are my very least choices, but I would go for the building. Doesn't have as much variable as the train method, It is way above the minimum lethal hight on to a hard surface and doesn't drag down an innocent in to my suicide. Not to mention, I would find it easier to jump off of the edge of a building than to jump infront of a speeding train. I feel like SI would be stronger for things that are presumed gruesome to the body.

 

[MyTimeIsUp]

Wouldn't recommend. You can't guarantee that you won't end up severely disabled.

I know someone that is severely disabled, because of jumping off a bridge. A very high bridge. They picked the highest local one, in the entire county and it is fucking HUGE. I went up there myself a couple of times, and fuck. I believe they're the third person to ever survive that bridge, and there's been a lot - see?

The specialist doctors had never seen anyone survive that height, nor those injuries - this person was the first in their career. It was horrific, but they are still alive and they are 10x worse off than they were before.

Their life is 100000x worse than it was, put it that way. No doubt, they wish they hadn't jumped because their mental health would not be as bad as it is now, nor would they be severely disabled. Brain damage and other list long injuries, lists, and lists actually.

I'm not going to list their injuries, or any of that shit, because I'm still traumatised by it myself as it was someone I loved very dearly (and I still do), and I saw them an hour before they did it (the last fucking person that knows them, unlike the people that saw them jump), and straight after, when they were all tubed up in the hospital.

Trust me, you don't want to fucking jump. People have survived much higher, too. You cannot predict this shit, look - even the doctors were in disbelief how this person survived.

I also know of two (that died), one intentional, one not.

Second person jumped from the the top of the inside of a shopping centre, straight onto marble flooring. A friend told me about this one (it was fairly recent actually). She was really fucked up (physically from jumping), you can probably imagine... anyway, she didn't die instantly. All the people were fucking traumatised (just like the first person I mentioned, because they saw them jump and tried to stop them!), and this lady took er, I think about 10 minutes to die. Can you imagine the pain? She was twitching and everything. Horrific

Third one was really drunk, and as per usual, messing around on roofs with his mates. He was a decent person, I met him actually years before it happened. It was really sad - over being drunk and deciding to do that? He was young and thought no harm would come to him, if he was fucking about on a ROOF of a shop. If I remember correctly, the shop was 2 floors-ish high. Anyway, he fell and died.

Fourth person, not jumping related, but she fell, hit her head on a curb, now severely disabled.

The choice is yours. I used to think about jumping, until it happened to the first person years ago. Now I would never consider it. Ever. Doesn't matter how high, because you have absolutely no guarantee you're going to die.

Naturally, the doctors will save you. People will try to save you because it is human instinct, and you can't consent, so you're fucked basically. And there is absolutely no way you would NOT have severe injuries - including brain damage - for the rest of your life. You wouldn't be able to end your life due to severe brain damage/physical lifelong injuries, and euthanasia would be out of the question due to capacity issues.

Do you want to end up severely disabled is the question you should be asking yourself. Especially locked in syndrome.

As for the train method - do you really want to traumatise people for the rest of their lives? You know what it's like to suffer, now why would you wish that on someone else, because YOU are deciding to end your life? Please think about that.

 

[UKscotty]

Jumps need to be 300+ feet to be guaranteed death.

Train is a terrible method, it will ruin other people's lives.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Train is a terrible method, it will ruin other people's lives.

And there's no guarantee of death, either, unless someone lays their neck on one of the tracks in order to be decapitated.

 

[yearsoflonliness]

Wouldn't recommend. You can't guarantee that you won't end up severely disabled.

Nobody can guarantee anything. People survive gunshot wounds to the head.

But in a practical and realistic sense, jumping from a 20 story building will kill you. Sure, you know a specific example of someone that didn't die, but that is definitely the VERY rare exception to the rule. Falling from that height will kill 99% of people.

As long as you don't hit anything on the way down from the top that could break your fall or even slow you down, you'll die.

The train is definitely the worse option. There are so many factors as others have said.

 

[MyTimeIsUp]

Nobody can guarantee anything. People survive gunshot wounds to the head.

But in a practical and realistic sense, jumping from a 20 story building will kill you. Sure, you know a specific example of someone that didn't die, but that is definitely the VERY rare exception to the rule. Falling from that height will kill 99% of people.

As long as you don't hit anything on the way down from the top that could break your fall or even slow you down, you'll die.

The train is definitely the worse option. There are so many factors as others have said.

Right so you ONLY won't die if you hit something on the way down? You're not serious... you actually believe that? This person didn't hit anything. There was the bridge and the ground, nothing else, no grass, nothing. Concrete onto the road. A very high drop. Didn't hit a car either. They were literally on the other side of the railings to ensure death on impact (nothing in the way).

I used to think like that also, so I do understand, but I wouldn't want to become the way this person is, so I'd rather not. I know nothing is a guarantee, and you can end up disabled with any type of attempt.

This is why I gave my input, so others are aware of the risk. You won't be able to kill yourself after that, you'd be fucked for life.

It's unfortunate that we're so desperate, we'll do anything to end suffering, even if there's a risk you'll survive, and end up like that.

 

[yearsoflonliness]

Right so you ONLY won't die if you hit something on the way down? You're not serious... you actually believe that? This person didn't hit anything. There was the bridge and the ground, nothing else, no grass, nothing. Concrete onto the road. A very high drop. Didn't hit a car either. They were literally on the other side of the railings to ensure death on impact (nothing in the way).

I used to think like that also, so I do understand, but I wouldn't want to become the way this person is, so I'd rather not. I know nothing is a guarantee, and you can end up disabled with any type of attempt.

This is why I gave my input, so others are aware of the risk. You won't be able to kill yourself after that, you'd be fucked for life.

It's unfortunate that we're so desperate, we'll do anything to end suffering, even if there's a risk you'll survive, and end up like that.

I believe that super rare statistical outliers should not influence the choices we make. There is a non-zero chance that shooting myself in the head while leaning off the balcony of a 10 story building will not kill me. Is that going to stop me from trying? Absolutely not.

I'm sorry that happened to your friend. It sucks. He was extremely unlucky.

People have survived skydiving without a parachute. A few have made full recoveries with no lasting injuries. A miracle some would call it. Other people trip on the sidewalk, crack their head open, and die. People have died from straining too hard on the toilet. I mean, come on. If you look hard enough for excuses you will find them aplenty.

Each person that wants to die should weigh the available options and compare the relative risks. If the method you pick has a low success rate, well, that's a risk up to you to take. But, imo, if you plan well and pick a method with good odds you should not be afraid of it failing. Else, if you're too afraid of failure, you'll just keep living and suffering. Which option is worse is up to each person.