In news I have read a drunk guy fell from a high building landed on someone, drunk guy survived with no injuries, other person died :(
In news I have read a drunk guy fell from a high building landed on someone, drunk guy survived with no injuries, other person died :(
Are you sure it wasn't you who was drunk, and you are just remembering watching the bourne identity ?
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lol I cannot find that news article.Are you sure it wasn't you who was drunk, and you are just remembering watching the bourne identity ?
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Jumping from building would be a little selfish though lot of people would be traumatized.
Throwmyselfaway
Not gone yet but soon
- Jan 14, 2020
- 798
I have several tall buildings around and a tall bridge which they are putting up 8 ft tall fencing because people jump from there so much and it's a long walk out there with cctv otherwise I might tempt it. My issue is I have a fear of heights. I think if I found a beautiful place I could by pass the fear. If the height is high enough, jumping should work.
Defenestrator
Experienced
- Jan 17, 2020
- 257
It's not the ODing on them alone that's the issue. If I were to take them all with alcohol and the omeprazole (a ppi) at the same time, their effectiveness is massively increased. I could literally fall into a coma and die quite easily (especially as i'm very small and have a fast metabolism.)If you skim this article you can see how hard it is to OD on Valium.
Valium Overdose | Can You Overdose on Valium?
Whether it is being used for medical or recreational purposes, Valium has the possibility of leading to dependence, substance use disorders, and overdoses.www.therecoveryvillage.com
Of course, your mileage may vary but they have to take into account many factors when prescribing medication; contraindications is one of those.
BipolarExpat
Accomplished faker
- May 30, 2019
- 698
Crap. They're going to put a barrier on the Skyway. I did not know that till now...
passenger27
In my beginning is my end.
- Aug 25, 2019
- 642
Yeah, everybody's different, you're right about that. I've been taking benzos so long (going on 19 years - damn that seems like forever
) I've probably built a superhuman tolerance to them. I drink all the time while taking them. Not that I'm very proud of it, there's been many occasion where I washed the Valium down with alcohol. Not for fun, just to take the pain away.I guess things really are different here in the US. I'm diagnosed Bipolar 1 plus it seems like a dozen different things (including depression, it pretty much comes with the territory when you're Bipolar) and I get all my meds mailed to me. I take my Valium religiously because my nerves stay shot and I've still got a stockpile of 3 bottles of 5 mg pills. I'm not really sure how that happened other than for a time I was cutting them in half to clear my head some while I was taking care of my dying mother.
It's all a money game here. Either that or they're just trying to take the mentally ill out here. Not that that's a bad thing to me, it's just real compassion is getting harder and harder to find in the US. I guess it's all follow the leader.
Defenestrator
Experienced
- Jan 17, 2020
- 257
I know what you mean, I think there's a concerted effort to kill off the mentally ill too.Yeah, everybody's different, you're right about that. I've been taking benzos so long (going on 19 years - damn that seems like forever
I guess things really are different here in the US. I'm diagnosed Bipolar 1 plus it seems like a dozen different things (including depression, it pretty much comes with the territory when you're Bipolar) and I get all my meds mailed to me. I take my Valium religiously because my nerves stay shot and I've still got a stockpile of 3 bottles of 5 mg pills. I'm not really sure how that happened other than for a time I was cutting them in half to clear my head some while I was taking care of my dying mother.
It's all a money game here. Either that or they're just trying to take the mentally ill out here. Not that that's a bad thing to me, it's just real compassion is getting harder and harder to find in the US. I guess it's all follow the leader.
benzos have a really bad reputation these days due to their high dependence in a short period of time so they are really reluctant to prescribe them over here.
In the states I guess it must be, as you say, all about the moolah.
It's a shitshow all 'round.
Innereye
Know thy self
- Jan 18, 2020
- 300
Quarky00
Enlightened
- Dec 17, 2019
- 1,956
I once had to do some inspection/work on buildings roof, around 20m.
No fence or wall at all, just flat floor and then straight down. I'm not afraid of heights. I stood at the edge and put my feet out, toying with the idea, and it was scary looking down.
If I would jump I'd rather turn around -- not to see the bottom ! Less scary
No fence or wall at all, just flat floor and then straight down. I'm not afraid of heights. I stood at the edge and put my feet out, toying with the idea, and it was scary looking down.
If I would jump I'd rather turn around -- not to see the bottom ! Less scary
Defenestrator
Experienced
- Jan 17, 2020
- 257
That was my plan, to fall backwards - it's actually recommended you push your self backwards so as to land on your head (if it's not in the hundreds of meters height range) and your arms/legs won't get in the way.I once had to do some inspection/work on buildings roof, around 20m.
No fence or wall at all, just straight there. I stood at the edge and put my feet out, I'm not afraid of heights, but it was scary.
If I would jump I'd rather turn around -- not to see the bottom ! Less scary
Innereye
Know thy self
- Jan 18, 2020
- 300
I never actually made the jump, but i came in set on doing it, took a few benzos to try to kill the fear but I guess I didn't take enough. its also very difficult to find an isolated place to do it. All falls that were far enough to be a surefire death were densely populated. You dont want the added pressure of being stopped or interrupted. So i gave up on this method tbh.
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Not wanting to contest your findings, please consider the following:
From 84 ft one would hit the ground @approximately 50 mph/80 kph.
From 200 ft @ 78 mph/125 kph. Not taking in account the air resistance.
Landing with the head or upper body first at either speed would be lights out in an instant. If there's no one around to alert the medical services I would deem this a certain death. The overall trauma would be massive in any case.
But if you don't manage to land on your head in the correct fashion then the outcome could be very bad.
People should not be gambling with such things...
Feel free to read some posts by this member :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/members/amz_falls.10063/
( She appears to have eventually gone on to CTB successfully )
I'm sure there may be small details that we can debate, etc, but we should be trying to advise people of methods that have a 99.9% chance of success or better.
If I were going to use jumping, I would want a height of 300 feet or more....
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Soulless_Angel
existence is futile
- Jul 10, 2019
- 2,225
I recall Amz and her story, she from in depth chats to her, is from my area, I believe I found her story in newspaper articles, she never denied what I shared with her, but never admitted it, kinda avoided it, I respected her privacy and never pushed.
People can survive from die heights, yet people have survived from heigh heights too! its confusing!
Thereisnothing
Enlightened
- Jan 4, 2020
- 1,604
I am in UK and now things like Diazepam are so hard to get on prescription, years back they gave them out like sweeties! I am surprised they dish out Propranol, my mum used to take that for high blood pressure, didn't know used for anxiety etc, although suppose the proponent similar, ie if lowers BP then having calming effect. I take Amitriptyline for migraine in low dose as that can be used as painkiller as well as antidepressant. I cant take it in higher dose as makes me very agitated, funny how these things work.
Defenestrator
Experienced
- Jan 17, 2020
- 257
My mum was astonished he prescribed them to me too, she said they used to be called "mother's little helpers" and, as you said, they used to hand them out like smarties - not surprising as they did the same with benzo's predecessors: barbiturates.
We never learn.
Thereisnothing
Enlightened
- Jan 4, 2020
- 1,604
I dont know much about it only what seen on films or in news, but seems if high enough then the impact would kill outright. Its the actual nerve/SI that gets people from not doing it. I couldn't personally. If done from not high enough then could well be excruciating as you wouldn't die on impact yet could well have numerous broken limbs, internal organs damaged, broken back, neck or brain damage. Life then really would awful.
When people survive from high heights, I think there is usually some explanation, eg something that breaks their fall in some way....
Soulless_Angel
existence is futile
- Jul 10, 2019
- 2,225
she said she was half on mud half on tarmac, I dont recall which was which but it was enough to fuck her up but not enough to kill her, her story really pulled me, I wish I knew where she was now, I scour the news but they don't tend to report on suicides were I am
AlreadyGone
Taking it day by day
- Jan 11, 2020
- 917
I think it depends on how you land. Head first, then you should not feel a thing. Feet first, then you will feel pain before dying. That is my guess.
This fucking guy. He fucking gets it.
t.
another jumper
Yes, if you have the prerequisite gigantic balls needed. Take it from someone who has tried.
But if jumping from the sort of heights discussed, when you calculate the speeds involved, we would be talking about a fraction of a second, so I would have thought the orientation of the body in that case would not make a huge difference....
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Either way, what's gonna hurt worse? Crashing into the ground or being alive for decades
Whitewash11235814
Experienced
- Oct 21, 2019
- 207
I wouldn't jump unless I reach terminal velocity, which is at 1,500 feet. Going straight down at 200 km/h, yeah, you basically done.
Regardless of pain, I think it be over quick. Going at 200 km/h and a sudden stop, it will yank your heart out. Not to mention every single bone of your body will break and pierce through your organs.
I won't jump unless it a height like this tower below.
In fact I wouldn't jump unless it over 2,000 feet. It is painful, I don't know. I doubt it be much pain when you mush. It be over so fast that you hear a super LOUD thud of your body hit concrete and done. I doubt from this height it be any pain, it like a shotgun to your heard, BAM, light out. done.
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^^^ and This.
Let me add. The flght attendant fall from thousands feet out of the airplane and survived, well guess what. Read this guys, before go on that she survived free fall, because she didn't. First of all, she was tied, meaning seat belt to a chair in a cabin. The cabin broke from the airplane wing and dropped. And then the cabin land on DEEP snow. And then the cabin roll from the snow. LOLLLLLL So so much things that break her fall here, she ain't free fall.
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Tied to the cabin, meaning the cabin absorb her fall. It like put you in a box and drop you. Then the cabin land on deep snow, which the deep snow obsorb more of her fall. And then it roll, which obsorb even more.
There, it all explain how she survived.
I laugh every time someone bring this woman story as an example of free fall survive, because it ain't.
Alright, another story. This guy drop from thousand feet, on his way down, he hit a glass building, huge glass building. And then dangling on the wire there. He didn't even hit the ground. LOLLLLLLL. Yeah, this ain't free fall.
First of all, you hit a glass building, shatter it, meaning his glass building absorb your fall. Then instead of go down, you didn't, you get tangle and dangling on a wire. You didn't hit the damn ground.
What free fall is there? NONE.
Free fall is mean you go straight down without anything break your fall. AND without anything on you that help give you drag, like a parachute, etc..
So jgm63 is right, those who survive high fall, are something break your fall on the way down.
Regardless of pain, I think it be over quick. Going at 200 km/h and a sudden stop, it will yank your heart out. Not to mention every single bone of your body will break and pierce through your organs.
I won't jump unless it a height like this tower below.
In fact I wouldn't jump unless it over 2,000 feet. It is painful, I don't know. I doubt it be much pain when you mush. It be over so fast that you hear a super LOUD thud of your body hit concrete and done. I doubt from this height it be any pain, it like a shotgun to your heard, BAM, light out. done.
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^^^ and This.
Let me add. The flght attendant fall from thousands feet out of the airplane and survived, well guess what. Read this guys, before go on that she survived free fall, because she didn't. First of all, she was tied, meaning seat belt to a chair in a cabin. The cabin broke from the airplane wing and dropped. And then the cabin land on DEEP snow. And then the cabin roll from the snow. LOLLLLLL So so much things that break her fall here, she ain't free fall.
...........
Tied to the cabin, meaning the cabin absorb her fall. It like put you in a box and drop you. Then the cabin land on deep snow, which the deep snow obsorb more of her fall. And then it roll, which obsorb even more.
There, it all explain how she survived.
I laugh every time someone bring this woman story as an example of free fall survive, because it ain't.
Alright, another story. This guy drop from thousand feet, on his way down, he hit a glass building, huge glass building. And then dangling on the wire there. He didn't even hit the ground. LOLLLLLLL. Yeah, this ain't free fall.
First of all, you hit a glass building, shatter it, meaning his glass building absorb your fall. Then instead of go down, you didn't, you get tangle and dangling on a wire. You didn't hit the damn ground.
What free fall is there? NONE.
Free fall is mean you go straight down without anything break your fall. AND without anything on you that help give you drag, like a parachute, etc..
So jgm63 is right, those who survive high fall, are something break your fall on the way down.
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Thank you for sharing this. Seems that it' s indeed better to go over than under.
A friend of mine died in a rock climbing accident after a 60 ft fall on a low- angle rock face. And he was wearing a helmet. Sometimes the odds just are not in your favor...
There are PCx analogues that would be classified as dissociative anesthetic's if they were still used in surgery, similar to the sedating arylcyclohexylamines such as ketamine which are still used for veterinary operations, and in certain human surgeries where compromised breathing is too much of a danger. They nullify the fear of heights because they work as very potent NMDA antagonists. When you dissociate from your bodily senses on a psychological level, you no longer have a fear response or survival instinct to contend with.
People have literally been operated on and cut open on high dosages of Sernyl (phenylcyclohexylpiperidine) for a brief time before it was taken away from the old operating theatres, and eventually even from animal medicine. One still readily available PCx analogue is stronger as an NMDA antagonist than phencyclidine itself. I have cat-walked along high cliffs on low doses, feeling nothing, I could have jumped. Now I might have a partner though, so I'm waiting a little while if we choose this method over a soft method like SN or N.
Don't take any of my posts as guides, I'm just explaining my own experience and a brief overview of this unique class of substances. If you want a more in-depth history on phencyclidine itself, it can be dug up on medical websites, but it's hidden behind paywalls. For the street history to attest to PCx type compounds powerful ability to cause complete bodily dissociation(PCE, PCP, etc.) while still maintaining mobility at sub-surgical doses, it can be found if you comb through reports that make the paper every so often of what people can get up to when you're completely dissociated from any of your bodily senses. Some of the reports aren't pretty, because people in poor neighbourhoods involved in gang activity occasionally get overly intoxicated and commit atrocious acts. I don't condone this usage of any of these compounds and look down upon people who would use them to commit violence against another human being; they could aid in the act of manual suicide though if one were to choose a physical method such as jumping or hanging.
Take everything I've said with a grain of salt please. I'm just passing along my understanding on this topic. Please always do your own research on everything, especially when it's to do with stimulating arylcyclohexylamines.
People have literally been operated on and cut open on high dosages of Sernyl (phenylcyclohexylpiperidine) for a brief time before it was taken away from the old operating theatres, and eventually even from animal medicine. One still readily available PCx analogue is stronger as an NMDA antagonist than phencyclidine itself. I have cat-walked along high cliffs on low doses, feeling nothing, I could have jumped. Now I might have a partner though, so I'm waiting a little while if we choose this method over a soft method like SN or N.
Don't take any of my posts as guides, I'm just explaining my own experience and a brief overview of this unique class of substances. If you want a more in-depth history on phencyclidine itself, it can be dug up on medical websites, but it's hidden behind paywalls. For the street history to attest to PCx type compounds powerful ability to cause complete bodily dissociation(PCE, PCP, etc.) while still maintaining mobility at sub-surgical doses, it can be found if you comb through reports that make the paper every so often of what people can get up to when you're completely dissociated from any of your bodily senses. Some of the reports aren't pretty, because people in poor neighbourhoods involved in gang activity occasionally get overly intoxicated and commit atrocious acts. I don't condone this usage of any of these compounds and look down upon people who would use them to commit violence against another human being; they could aid in the act of manual suicide though if one were to choose a physical method such as jumping or hanging.
Take everything I've said with a grain of salt please. I'm just passing along my understanding on this topic. Please always do your own research on everything, especially when it's to do with stimulating arylcyclohexylamines.
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