Venting Job expectations are fucked?

[OhWellDerp321]

It is just me are are job expectations for new jobs seemed fucked now-a-days.

Every new job that I have started seems to either have zero training.

If they do have training, they expect you to learn everything within two weeks and start doing the job on your own.
You also have to learn every little detail about the job. It's like they are just dumping loads and loads of information and expect you to absorb it all.

If they see you are struggling within the first few days, they start to think doubt if they hire the right person.

They always say you can ask questions. But in reality you just start to freeze up the moment you realize you can't remember the first few steps because so much information has been dumped on you.

I am sure for people that are quick learners this isn't an issue. But for people that are a little slower to pick up things, this is super frustrating.

It seems like we now adopted the logic that you can learn the job "as you do". And ask questions as you go.
But in reality this is super frustrating because you end up bothering people every two seconds for the first few months.

And lets be honest. You can be the nicest person and always willing to help. But we workers have to to their own work and can't sit there all day answering questions.

 

[SVEN]

The two best jobs I had both had initial induction courses and follow up courses.

 

[OhWellDerp321]

The two best jobs I had both had initial induction courses and follow up courses.

And when did they expect you to be fully independent?

 

[tiredash]

idk in other countries, i think in mine its less worse than in the US, but there is a similar problem. i have seen too many jobs asking for a "junior" only to have the job description be like "3 years of experience in X". or sometimes dont even mention the experience, but last one I saw was "must be an expert in X". obviously they are looking for under pay people.

i just avoid these. if the job descriptions are terrible, how is the job gonna be? well, i have the luxury to ignore these, altho im sure that i woldnt get selected anyway because these mostly are looking for young people that let themselves be exploited. they dont want a 35 yo junior...

 

[ForgottenAgain]

I've worked at various companies and they always gave me time to learn. There was documentation to read through, someone to guide me for the first 2 weeks or so, was able to ask questions.

The first weeks are always very mentally draining with the amount of things to read and processes to learn, but they were always understanding. I think I've been lucky.

My manager at my current place, and one at a previous place, always said they don't expect people to provide a ton of value in the first 2 months.

 

[SVEN]

And when did they expect you to be fully independent?

In one job we worked in Teams, so we were never left to get on with stuff alone and were also reasonably closely supervised. In the other one after the initial induction course I was usually on my own, but under a general supervisor who checked my work rate and quality.

 

[OhWellDerp321]

Maybe its just my field then. Sounds like you guys had good training