Discussion I've just placed my order with DMC, and I could really use some reassurance.

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

Now that the order has gone through, the anxiety is starting to kick in HARD. My main worry is getting a welfare check, since I don't quite know if I'll be able to fool the cops into thinking everything is fine. I could tell the truth and say it's for suicide, but that my therapist and I have a deal that I can keep a method on hand as long as I promise not to use it/keep it as a last resort (not an uncommon arrangement between therapist and patient). I'm not sure if saying it's for curing meat will be convincing, and I'm not sure how to cook up a story that would make that convincing.

Does anyone know if someone's gotten a welfare check in the US after ordering from DMC?

The only post I've seen of such a case is when a user's roommate found their package and called the cops, but this won't be a concern for me. I'm also aware that welfare checks tend to be more of a concern in places like the UK or Canada, and also when a source gets busted and everyone's addresses and receipts fall into law enforcement's hands. This happened when Kenneth Law got caught. People in both the US and Canada got welfare checks. And unfortunately, DMC also stores customer info, so if he gets busted and some of us haven't used our SN by then, we should expect a visit from our friends in blue. But this knowledge doesn't soothe my anxious thoughts, I can't help it. So I'm hoping some of you may have personal experience ordering from DMC in the US or have stories from others that might put me at ease.

 

[Soupster]

I have seen no evidence of buying SN from DMC triggering a welfare check in the US. There are reports of people who were living with the person reporting it, but since that's not a concern for you, you should be fine. My order came through without a hitch.

 

[opheliaoveragain]

Echoing the above, welfare checks are unlikely. DMC also knows what's up and will (I heard/saw) label the package as something else on the outside etc, you should be A-OK.

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

I have seen no evidence of buying SN from DMC triggering a welfare check in the US. There are reports of people who were living with the person reporting it, but since that's not a concern for you, you should be fine. My order came through without a hitch.

this is really good to hear. when did you make the order, if you don't mind me asking? i'm curious since recently the House of reps passed the youth poisoning act and it seems that SN is in the spotlight negatively, so I'm not sure if that plays a factor here (even though SN has not been made illegal yet).

Echoing the above, welfare checks are unlikely. DMC also knows what's up and will (I heard/saw) label the package as something else on the outside etc, you should be A-OK.

that's also good to hear. i'm hoping it passes through customs with no issues.

 

[Soupster]

I just got mine early last week.

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

I just got mine early last week.

awesome! well that is good news. I appreciate the response, it's certainly helping a bit. maybe i'll actually be able to fall asleep tonight lmao

 

[opheliaoveragain]

DMC was confirmed to be up and fuctional etc, a good handful of people have recently received theirs, I'm sure yours will be totally alright. Try to get some rest haha<3

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

DMC was confirmed to be up and fuctional etc, a good handful of people have recently received theirs, I'm sure yours will be totally alright. Try to get some rest haha<3

Lol thank you, I will try. It should be here pretty soon since I paid for expedited shipping. He's been emailing me and apparently I'll be getting a tracking number sometime today, so things are moving!

 

[opheliaoveragain]

Lol thank you, I will try. It should be here pretty soon since I paid for expedited shipping. He's been emailing me and apparently I'll be getting a tracking number sometime today, so things are moving!

Keep us updated if you want! <3

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

Keep us updated if you want! <3

For sure. I'll probably come back with an update once I've gotten the SN, or if any issues pop up that someone else may have had and can assist. I appreciate you all being here to talk and answer questions. I'm really glad I made an account instead of trying to go-it alone and remain a lurker. Really helps to be able to talk to others who actually know what's up. This has always been an awesome community from what I've seen during my years lurking.

thanks again :)

 

[opheliaoveragain]

For sure. I'll probably come back with an update once I've gotten the SN, or if any issues pop up that someone else may have had and can assist. I appreciate you all being here to talk and answer questions. I'm really glad I made an account instead of trying to go-it alone and remain a lurker. Really helps to be able to talk to others who actually know what's up. This has always been an awesome community from what I've seen during my years lurking.

thanks again :)

Once the conversation feature opens up for you, shoot me a message <3 I was gonna message you but I suppose it's not available yet. We're glad you're here, no one should have to go through the stages of this alone, if they don't want to, no matter which side of the forum they're on.

 

[Kadaver]

Hello, I'm the user you mentioned who's roommate opened my package.

It came very quickly and they didn't even have me sign for it—it was just left at our door like any other package. The cops didn't come and do a welfare check on me at all so I wouldn't worry to much

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

DMC label the exterior package as something else, so maybe keep it in the outer package for now? And research pottery or concrete hardening or whatever?
And think of a reason you'd be getting a package from that particular country in this current climate - they can't lie on stamps, unfortunately.
Best of luck.

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

Hello, I'm the user you mentioned who's roommate opened my package.

It came very quickly and they didn't even have me sign for it—it was just left at our door like any other package. The cops didn't come and do a welfare check on me at all so I wouldn't worry to much

Hey. First, I wanna say I am so sorry that happened to you. That was such an awful story to read, and I hate that you had to go through that. Are you doing okay now? I can't imagine having my SN taken away like that, and then being 5150'd (that's the term, right?).

As for the arrival of the package, that is also reassuring to hear, although the family member with whom I live wouldn't really care about the package if they happen to find it first. They already know and accept that I've long planned on CTB, and I'm not even sure if they'd know what SN is anyway.

My nerves have definitely calmed after reading all your guys' responses and getting some sleep. I appreciate your response, thank you. And again, I hope you're doing okay since that event.

DMC label the exterior package as something else, so maybe keep it in the outer package for now? And research pottery or concrete hardening or whatever?
And think of a reason you'd be getting a package from that particular country in this current climate - they can't lie on stamps, unfortunately.
Best of luck.

Thank you, I appreciate that.

If you're talking about hiding the package from those in my household, I don't have to worry about that, as I wrote in my comment above.

Once the conversation feature opens up for you, shoot me a message <3 I was gonna message you but I suppose it's not available yet. We're glad you're here, no one should have to go through the stages of this alone, if they don't want to, no matter which side of the forum they're on.

I actually do have DMs open now. I believe you tried to DM me about 10 or so mins before 24hrs was up for my account, lol. I don't know how to DM others, so if you want to send me one and start a chat, I'd be totally cool with that!

 

[Kadaver]

Hey. First, I wanna say I am so sorry that happened to you. That was such an awful story to read, and I hate that you had to go through that. Are you doing okay now? I can't imagine having my SN taken away like that, and then being 5150'd (that's the term, right?).

As for the arrival of the package, that is also reassuring to hear, although the family member with whom I live wouldn't really care about the package if they happen to find it first. They already know and accept that I've long planned on CTB, and I'm not even sure if they'd know what SN is anyway.

My nerves have definitely calmed after reading all your guys' responses and getting some sleep. I appreciate your response, thank you. And again, I hope you're doing okay since that event.

Its ok. It was my own negligence that got me caught and now I know that if I'm expecting something like that I need to be more diligent.

I'm not doing so good. The roommate kicked me out because I was "stressing him out" with my mental health issues and now I'm living with my dad again which has its own issues.

I'm glad that you were able to calm your nerves and get some sleep <3

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

Its ok. It was my own negligence that got me caught and now I know that if I'm expecting something like that I need to be more diligent.

Well, I suppose the good news is DMC is still up and running, and probably will be for the foreseeable future, so you can always make another order. You know to be extra vigilant with the package now.

I'm not doing so good. The roommate kicked me out because I was "stressing him out" with my mental health issues and now I'm living with my dad again which has its own issues.

I'm really sorry to hear that, I do remember reading that from your post. Your roommate was a genuine prick. He essentially treated you as a problem he didn't want to deal with, and he just threw you to the wolves and then told you to fuck off. Absolutely sickening behavior. I wish more people were more open to letting people determine what to do with their own lives, instead of actively interfering and even further ruining lives.

I suppose it's a good thing you still have a place to stay, even if it's with your dad. If you don't mind me asking, are you safe with your dad? Or at least in a bearable relationship with him? I'd hate to hear that you went from one crummy human being to another, but sometimes that does happen.

I'm glad that you were able to calm your nerves and get some sleep <3

I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm doing fine now. My only real worry now is potentially being unable to acquire Meto and having to make an attempt without antiemetics. But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, right now I'm just waiting for the SN to arrive. I can't believe I actually managed to get some. For years, I had been looking at everyone else acquiring and CTBing with SN, and I never would have thought I'd switch sides and join them.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

If you're talking about hiding the package from those in my household, I don't have to worry about that, as I wrote in my comment above.

Hey
I live in another country so can't comment in specifics on the likelihood of welfare checks, but what I was trying to say but probably did poorly, sorry, is that because DMC tell fibs about what's in the package, that might mean it isn't intercepted at any point, by anyone. Not at customs, not by the police. All of that. As in, reducing the chances of welfare checks. As I said, I'm in a different country but luckily my package breezed through, while I was a twisted knot of pure adrenaline & anxiety. Good luck.

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

Hey
I live in another country so can't comment in specifics on the likelihood of welfare checks, but what I was trying to say but probably did poorly, sorry,

it's alright. no worries :)

is that because DMC tell fibs about what's in the package, that might mean it isn't intercepted at any point, by anyone. Not at customs, not by the police. All of that. As in, reducing the chances of welfare checks. As I said, I'm in a different country but luckily my package breezed through, while I was a twisted knot of pure adrenaline & anxiety. Good luck.

lol I can relate to being a twisted knot of adrenaline and anxiety. I'm sorry, but that made me laugh, good description of the experience. though I am feeling a lot more relaxed now.

So, to make sure I'm not misunderstanding, you're saying that DMC ensures that customs has little reason to open the package and hold it for review, as well as investigate the individual ordering it? that does sound good, if true. I'm glad your package came through with no bullshit.

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

Good luck.

Good luck to you as well :)

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

lol I can relate to being a twisted knot of adrenaline and anxiety. I'm sorry, but that made me laugh, good description of the experience. though I am feeling a lot more relaxed now.

So, to make sure I'm not misunderstanding, you're saying that DMC ensures that customs has little reason to open the package and hold it for review, as well as investigate the individual ordering it? that does sound good, if true. I'm glad your package came through with no bullshit.

I "think" customs tend to focus on things that are flagged as suspicious, rather than opening any random package in front of them. There is absolutely nothing suspicious looking about the packaging from DMC & mine clearly hadn't been opened & if it had, there's still nothing illegal in there. Just a discrepancy between the description on the outside to the description on the inside. And if they opened THAT layer & tested it, it is what it says on the inside packaging. Which is legal & could be written off as a clerical error on the exterior packaging. I think the UK have had some issues at some point because of the BBC & I don't know much about that or about the US, but there was zero interest in mine (& we have whole reality tv shows about the shit customs & border force intercept). Best of luck.

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

I "think" customs tend to focus on things that are flagged as suspicious, rather than opening any random package in front of them. There is absolutely nothing suspicious looking about the packaging from DMC & mine clearly hadn't been opened & if it had, there's still nothing illegal in there.

That is true. In the US, SN hasn't been made illegal yet (though the government is working on it, unfortunately). So if they happened to open it, there'd be nothing to flag the shipment. From my tracking updates, my SN went through Ukraine customs with no issue in only 14 hours or so. The only thing left is to hope it does the same for US customs.

Just a discrepancy between the description on the outside to the description on the inside. And if they opened THAT layer & tested it, it is what it says on the inside packaging. Which is legal & could be written off as a clerical error on the exterior packaging.

That is a question I have. Does DMC inside packaging (the actual SN) say it is SN? I recall seeing a pic of it and it was a plain gray vacuum sealed bag (which also worries me, in case I fail and I need to have the rest of my SN properly sealed for the next attempt). I'm hoping it's a container or at least a resealable bag.

I think the UK have had some issues at some point because of the BBC & I don't know much about that or about the US, but there was zero interest in mine (& we have whole reality tv shows about the shit customs & border force intercept).

Yeah the UK is where it seems to be the most risky from what I've seen over the years. And after the MDS fiasco, I'm sure they're on higher alert for SN shipments. But in the US, it seems there isn't too much attention on SN aside from the so-called Youth Poisoning Protection Act. It passed the house earlier this year, and it now needs to pass the senate before going to the president. You can track the progress here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/4310 in case you see any posts about SN from users in the US and you feel they should be made aware of it. This is incredibly important for the future of SN acquisition here, and I feel as though I've just barely ordered my SN in the nick of time.

Best of luck.

Thank you. and again to you :)

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

That is true. In the US, SN hasn't been made illegal yet (though the government is working on it, unfortunately). So if they happened to open it, there'd be nothing to flag the shipment. From my tracking updates, my SN went through Ukraine customs with no issue in only 14 hours or so. The only thing left is to hope it does the same for US customs.

That is a question I have. Does DMC inside packaging (the actual SN) say it is SN? I recall seeing a pic of it and it was a plain gray vacuum sealed bag (which also worries me, in case I fail and I need to have the rest of my SN properly sealed for the next attempt). I'm hoping it's a container or at least a resealable bag.

Yeah the UK is where it seems to be the most risky from what I've seen over the years. And after the MDS fiasco, I'm sure they're on higher alert for SN shipments. But in the US, it seems there isn't too much attention on SN aside from the so-called Youth Poisoning Protection Act. It passed the house earlier this year, and it now needs to pass the senate before going to the president. You can track the progress here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/4310 in case you see any posts about SN from users in the US and you feel they should be made aware of it. This is incredibly important for the future of SN acquisition here, and I feel as though I've just barely ordered my SN in the nick of time.

Thank you. and again to you :)

It's in a grey vacuum bag like you said. It has the chemical abbreviation written on it, I think maybe in handwriting. So maybe have a google of what DMC sells it for so you sound like you have a great new hobby . I'm pretty confident it's resealable. TBH, I barely remember - getting a hold of a Mylar bag or whatever they're called wouldn't hurt if you're planning on opening it to test. Have a look on here on how to store if you open. I immediately destroyed all the outer packaging, the envelope, the stamps, ripped it into pieces, covered it in hand sanitiser until it was illegible, wadded up in a tiny ball, bagged it & binned it - I went all out. If I manage to successfully CTB (oh please, & soon ) it will be obvious what I used, but I wanted to protect the source - I had a lot of trouble with all of this, out of sheer panic & ignorance & lack of tech skills & was just generally rubbish & L from DMC was so ridiculously kind & patient with me, just endlessly lovely & was a godsend - so I didn't want him implicated. And I wanted to protect the source for future people who will need it. Felt responsible somehow. Something for you to think about maybe - not telling you what to do at all, I promise - I just really felt the need to keep the source open because I know how completely desperate I was & don't want to take that away from anyone else. I never encourage anyone else, but I know for some people it's their only choice. It's my only choice. CTB"ing & SN as method.
Mine sat at our customs for a really long time & that freaked me out, but it was fine. So maybe keep the adrenaline & anxiety in check if you can (I couldn't!!!!) it doesn't necessarily mean anything more than a lot of stuff at the docks.
Plus I think there was a lag from when it dropped from DMC tracking to when it started in my country.
I'm lucky (we're literally called the lucky country ) that I come from the same country as Philip Nitschke - first doc in the world to give legal lethal injection, founder of Exit, creator of the exit bag & sarco device etc etc., on & on.
Plus SN as a method (I believe…) was our gift to the world - too many feral pigs so when looking how to cull humanely, found SN & there was a quote "They take a mouth full or two of bait and say, 'Oh that's making me feel a bit woozy', walk away to sort of snooze it off, and while they're sleeping it off, they just go into a deeper and deeper slumber and die" - which obviously caught a LOT OF attention. That said, it's bloody hard to get here, I obviously shipped it from overseas & outright begged on this site for help. But luckily (again) no interest from customs.
Also, I tested with aquarium strips & blood test because as soon as the anxiety about it getting here disappeared, I got to replace that with a new all-consuming anxiety (there is always a new goddamn anxiety) that it wasn't legit. Both came out great. If I'd known I'd have long enough to get a second source, I would've but didn't know that at the time.
I started to reread this to edit & realised it's a rambling mess with a hundred maybes & a thousand I thinks, so I'm very sorry but instead of editing, I'm just gonna hit send & hope that you can find something useful amongst all of that. Legit trying to help you, but broken brain…

 

[heisenberg]

i live in the us and have ordered from dmc twice, the second time i ordered was about 1.5-2 weeks after they got outed. i did not receive a welfare check either time and my package arrived to my regular mailbox. the first package arrived in a yellow, white, and red package labeled as paint pigment. the sn was vacuum sealed in a clear white plastic package inside. the second time i ordered, it came in one of those standard orange envelopes. it was labele as a phone case this time. inside, my sn was once again vacuume sealed in a clear white container but it was also placed inside of a black plastic envelope. on the second package they also wrote "sn 100g on it" lol. overall i say you have nothing to worry about regarding the package getting to you without a welfare check, and discretely.

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

I'm pretty confident it's resealable. TBH, I barely remember - getting a hold of a Mylar bag or whatever they're called wouldn't hurt if you're planning on opening it to test. Have a look on here on how to store if you open.

I hope they are. If it doesn't feel like it has a ziploc or anything, I'll look into buying a mylar bag so I can close it up. I don't plan on testing it either since many others have tested DMC SN and its purity is accurate, plus there have been CTBs with it so I'm fairly confident in it.

I immediately destroyed all the outer packaging, the envelope, the stamps, ripped it into pieces, covered it in hand sanitiser until it was illegible, wadded up in a tiny ball, bagged it & binned it - I went all out. If I manage to successfully CTB (oh please, & soon ) it will be obvious what I used, but I wanted to protect the source - I had a lot of trouble with all of this, out of sheer panic & ignorance & lack of tech skills & was just generally rubbish & L from DMC was so ridiculously kind & patient with me, just endlessly lovely & was a godsend - so I didn't want him implicated. And I wanted to protect the source for future people who will need it. Felt responsible somehow. Something for you to think about maybe - not telling you what to do at all, I promise - I just really felt the need to keep the source open because I know how completely desperate I was & don't want to take that away from anyone else. I never encourage anyone else, but I know for some people it's their only choice. It's my only choice. CTB"ing & SN as method.

Thank you so much for reminding me of this. I didn't even think of having the source compromised with the info on the packaging. When I do CTB, I will do all I can to remove any reference or trail back to DMC. I, too, really want to keep this source available for more people.

Mine sat at our customs for a really long time & that freaked me out, but it was fine. So maybe keep the adrenaline & anxiety in check if you can (I couldn't!!!!) it doesn't necessarily mean anything more than a lot of stuff at the docks.
Plus I think there was a lag from when it dropped from DMC tracking to when it started in my country.

Got it. I will try to remain calm. But you know how anxiety can be, it'll just happen if that's your tendency. I'm definitely an overthinker lol

I'm lucky (we're literally called the lucky country ) that I come from the same country as Philip Nitschke - first doc in the world to give legal lethal injection, founder of Exit, creator of the exit bag & sarco device etc etc., on & on.
Plus SN as a method (I believe…) was our gift to the world - too many feral pigs so when looking how to cull humanely, found SN & there was a quote "They take a mouth full or two of bait and say, 'Oh that's making me feel a bit woozy', walk away to sort of snooze it off, and while they're sleeping it off, they just go into a deeper and deeper slumber and die" - which obviously caught a LOT OF attention. That said, it's bloody hard to get here, I obviously shipped it from overseas & outright begged on this site for help. But luckily (again) no interest from customs.

Fascinating! I am grateful to your country then, since SN is such a boon in the absence of Barbiturates.

Also, I tested with aquarium strips & blood test because as soon as the anxiety about it getting here disappeared, I got to replace that with a new all-consuming anxiety (there is always a new goddamn anxiety) that it wasn't legit. Both came out great. If I'd known I'd have long enough to get a second source, I would've but didn't know that at the time.

This is why I'm likely not going to test, as I already mentioned. So many have tested DMC's SN and successfully CTB'd with it that I feel it would be a waste of my money. Plus, I'm pretty much pinching for pennies living paycheck to paycheck, so a $20 testing kit would be a significant purchase especially considering I also have to pay like $50 for Meto and Propranolol as well.

I started to reread this to edit & realised it's a rambling mess with a hundred maybes & a thousand I thinks, so I'm very sorry but instead of editing, I'm just gonna hit send & hope that you can find something useful amongst all of that. Legit trying to help you, but broken brain…

It's okay! I'm incredibly grateful that you've taken the time to give me all this info. This was absolutely informative, especially about the packaging and removing links/traces to DMC.

 

[offbalance]

Not to be that guy, but even if you asked DMC to delete your info the postal service might still have data of the addresses that were shipped to from his address. and if you get a welfare check they may or may not confiscate it, especially if they see you being at risk. Not to discourage you just be careful

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

Not to be that guy, but even if you asked DMC to delete your info the postal service might still have data of the addresses that were shipped to from his address. and if you get a welfare check they may or may not confiscate it, especially if they see you being at risk. Not to discourage you just be careful

It's okay, dw about it.

That is definitely a concern though. People have asked DMC to delete their data, and I'll probably do that as well just as a precaution, since if he gets busted there's a chance they don't get a hold of the postal records (since it won't give any info that the customer data doesn't already provide, so they may not think to get it). And besides, I don't plan on living long enough to have that be a concern (unless DMC gets busted next week or something, fuck...). But so far, from the answers here and the searching I've done, no one has gotten a welfare check from DMC in the US. But I suppose there could be some instances of it happening but we just never heard about it here on the forum.

Thank you regardless for the warning.

 

[alltoomuch2]

Now that the order has gone through, the anxiety is starting to kick in HARD. My main worry is getting a welfare check, since I don't quite know if I'll be able to fool the cops into thinking everything is fine. I could tell the truth and say it's for suicide, but that my therapist and I have a deal that I can keep a method on hand as long as I promise not to use it/keep it as a last resort (not an uncommon arrangement between therapist and patient). I'm not sure if saying it's for curing meat will be convincing, and I'm not sure how to cook up a story that would make that convincing.

Does anyone know if someone's gotten a welfare check in the US after ordering from DMC?

The only post I've seen of such a case is when a user's roommate found their package and called the cops, but this won't be a concern for me. I'm also aware that welfare checks tend to be more of a concern in places like the UK or Canada, and also when a source gets busted and everyone's addresses and receipts fall into law enforcement's hands. This happened when Kenneth Law got caught. People in both the US and Canada got welfare checks. And unfortunately, DMC also stores customer info, so if he gets busted and some of us haven't used our SN by then, we should expect a visit from our friends in blue. But this knowledge doesn't soothe my anxious thoughts, I can't help it. So I'm hoping some of you may have personal experience ordering from DMC in the US or have stories from others that might put me at ease.

It's labelled as something different. I didn't get a welfare check. I'm in the UK

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

Thank you so much for reminding me of this. I didn't even think of having the source compromised with the info on the packaging. When I do CTB, I will do all I can to remove any reference or trail back to DMC. I, too, really want to keep this source available for more people.

Thank you - I know not everyone thinks of it as their responsibility & obviously have a lot of stuff going on when they CTB, that's why I did it straight away instead of putting on a to-do list that I never get to. I cannot believe how many people are on this site & need it & how many have presumably succeeded since I've been here. I had nowhere else to turn & that's an awful feeling. And the sheer scale of support I got from the supplier, at a time when other people were trying to scam me, made me grateful for life. Hopefully not much longer a life, but for life anyway.

Got it. I will try to remain calm. But you know how anxiety can be, it'll just happen if that's your tendency. I'm definitely an overthinker lol

I know it's futile asking an anxious person not to be anxious. I just thought forewarned is forearmed or whatever that expression is. I could've done with a bit more knowledge about the shipping process & timeframes etc - that's where I really went bananas, well, one of them…

Plus, I'm pretty much pinching for pennies living paycheck to paycheck,

Same, same, same. But I bought the test because of anxiety, I just had to, & then ate even more 2 minute noodles than normal & called it intermittent fasting instead of too poor to eat

I'm incredibly grateful that you've taken the time to give me all this info. This was absolutely informative, especially about the packaging and removing links/traces to DMC.

I'm glad it was useful. I stress that my adhd crazy person rambling with no working memory, posting right before bed with meds in my system is a waste of time. Again, I feel a responsibility to pay it forward for the help I've received, & the help that I'm still hoping to receive in the future when I ask more dumb questions. Because along with always being more anxiety, there are always more dumb questions. From me, I mean. Best of luck, it sounds like you're on the right bus route.

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

I cannot believe how many people are on this site & need it & how many have presumably succeeded since I've been here. I had nowhere else to turn & that's an awful feeling. And the sheer scale of support I got from the supplier, at a time when other people were trying to scam me, made me grateful for life. Hopefully not much longer a life, but for life anyway.

The support here is just incredible. This community is awesome, and even though many faces have come and gone over the years I've lurked, one thing remains the same and that's the kindness and generosity of the userbase. And DMC is a very helpful and cooperative supplier from the stories I hear. The emails I got from them also seem to suggest that. I don't know if I could ever be grateful for life, but I will 100% agree with you that these two aspects of our "shared experience", so to speak, are definitely a highlight of life. Just imagining what would happen to so many people if this site didn't exist is horrifying to think about. This site is definitely a boon to us folk.

Same, same, same. But I bought the test because of anxiety, I just had to, & then ate even more 2 minute noodles than normal & called it intermittent fasting instead of too poor to eat

LMAO, I should have called the meals I've skipped in the past that. Intermittent fasting, LOL! That's a good one. I honestly love poor humor. "Pinching for pennies" is one of my favs. Another one that you may not have heard is "if it cost a nickel to shit, I'd have to throw up". So good lol.

I'm glad it was useful. I stress that my adhd crazy person rambling with no working memory, posting right before bed with meds in my system is a waste of time. Again, I feel a responsibility to pay it forward for the help I've received, & the help that I'm still hoping to receive in the future when I ask more dumb questions. Because along with always being more anxiety, there are always more dumb questions. From me, I mean.

100%. You've been very helpful.

And I, too, feel a responsibility to pay it forward for the help I've also received. I've been answering questions that I have good info for whenever possible. I know how important it is to have access to someone who knows something about what you're trying to find out, so it's important to be that person if you can. After all, if you're planning on CTBing, that knowledge will be gone when you're gone, so may as well share it around while you can.

Best of luck, it sounds like you're on the right bus route.

Thank you. And to you as well.

 

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