It's 9 degrees here now. If I jump in the lake...

[Lycan]

It's 9 degrees here now. If I jump in the lake at this temperature. How long will it take to die?

 

[Templedrake1933]

If you don't die from cold shock, you will either drown from muscle weakness preventing you from treading water (around 10 minutes), or succumb to hypothermia (2 hours).

 

[Worndown]

Water trmperature matters. If cold enough, you will cramp up in 30 to 60 seconds. Sinking happens after you tense up. Best wishes.

 

[Celerity]

I can't help but feel that this would be a bad way to go. Do you have no other means at your disposal?

 

[caninecomposer]

The sensation of drowning is extremely uncomfortable and agonizing, most people don't consider it viable.

 

[Intoxicated]

The experience of drowning

Internationally, drowning is a leading cause of accidental death that features in many legal cases. In these cases, possible mitigations and the ‘pain and suffering’ in terms of the duration and subjective experience of drowning are often ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Lycan]

I can't help but feel that this would be a bad way to go. Do you have no other means at your disposal?

Not right now. My Dad has talked about fixing up the old Mosin–Nagant. It's a Russian Rifle from World War 2 that my Grandpa traded for. We always thought it was a Japanese Arisaka. But I saw the hammer and sickle on it. But even if Dad does fix it. Does he have bullets for it? Even if he does I don't know where he keeps the Gun or the Bullets.
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[Celerity]

Not right now. My Dad has talked about fixing up the old Mosin–Nagant. It's a Russian Rifle from World War 2 that my Grandpa traded for. We always thought it was a Japanese Arisaka. But I saw the hammer and sickle on it. But even if Dad does fix it. Does he have bullets for it? Even if he does I don't know where he keeps the Gun or the Bullets.
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Can you not buy a weapon where you live? I would personally hesitate to use a family heirloom and an antique (with possible issues firing) at that.

 

[TimetoGo!]

It's 9 degrees here now. If I jump in the lake at this temperature. How long will it take to die?

What country are you in?

 

[ManByTheRiver]

It's 9 degrees here now. If I jump in the lake at this temperature. How long will it take to die?

I have swum in these temperatures for fun for extended periods of time, I wouldn't recommend it for CTB, takes long and would be painful.

 

[Abyssal]

This is surreal. I know the world is a large place and a temperature does mean much, but it was 9 degrees here yesterday as well. You could be nearby and I wouldn't even know. It's crazy how the numbness works to make me detached from everyone, but sometimes these posts remind me that I am speaking to other humans going through a great deal of suffering. I hope you aren't in pain.

 

[Lycan]

Can you not buy a weapon where you live? I would personally hesitate to use a family heirloom and an antique (with possible issues firing) at that.

I'm in the US. But I'm disabled and live with my parents. I don't have a Job or money of my own.

What country are you in?

The USA. Kansas.

This is surreal. I know the world is a large place and a temperature does mean much, but it was 9 degrees here yesterday as well. You could be nearby and I wouldn't even know. It's crazy how the numbness works to make me detached from everyone, but sometimes these posts remind me that I am speaking to other humans going through a great deal of suffering. I hope you aren't in pain.

Thank You. But if I'm being honest. I am in pain. Both Physical and mental. Do you live in Kansas?

 

[MeaningDork]

I have swum in these temperatures for fun for extended periods of time, I wouldn't recommend it for CTB, takes long and would be painful.

What's the ideal temperature to drown in?

 

[TimetoGo!]

The sensation of drowning is extremely uncomfortable and agonizing, most people don't consider it viable.

Show me a method that isn't uncomfortable

 

[bluebird16]

This is the only method that is accessible to me. I'll jump in the sea (eventually).

 

[mia_qwerty]

I considered this also. But I hate the cold too much. I don't know if I could go through with it. SN is still my preferred way if I can get any.

 

[ManByTheRiver]

What's the ideal temperature to drown in?

Ideally 1-4 degrees celsius, that's about as cold as you'll ever find water. If you jump straight in you'll get a gasp reaction and it will be hard to breathe for a moment. You'll also lose strength faster because of the cold. In still water you can still last for a while, but moving water is ideal for a drowning/hypothermia related death.

 

[MeaningDork]

Ideally 1-4 degrees celsius, that's about as cold as you'll ever find water. If you jump straight in you'll get a gasp reaction and it will be hard to breathe for a moment. You'll also lose strength faster because of the cold. In still water you can still last for a while, but moving water is ideal for a drowning/hypothermia related death.

But what if the surface of the water in frozen?

 

[ManByTheRiver]

But what if the surface of the water in frozen?

If you live somewhere where it might freeze over for a few days in relatively mild cold temperatures, you won't find it hard to get through the ice, if not even fall in accidentally. If you live somewhere with harsher temperatures for extended periods of time, you'll need tools, like an ice drill and a saw to cut a man-sized hole in the ice. Also if you dive into an ice hole you will only have a very slim chance to get out from under there and you will drown even with survival instinct kicking it.

 

[MeaningDork]

If you live somewhere where it might freeze over for a few days in relatively mild cold temperatures, you won't find it hard to get through the ice, if not even fall in accidentally. If you live somewhere with harsher temperatures for extended periods of time, you'll need tools, like an ice drill and a saw to cut a man-sized hole in the ice. Also if you dive into an ice hole you will only have a very slim chance to get out from under there and you will drown even with survival instinct kicking it.

Is -19 cold enough to require tools for the ice?

 

[ManByTheRiver]

Is -19 cold enough to require tools for the ice?

Depends on how long it's been that cold. I would go out and try checking the ice with just stomping my feet on it. If it cracks and breaks, great, if it doesn't you'll need tools, you can make do with an axe even, chop a hole. Sometimes ice on a lake or such forms 2 layers of ice with air in between, so that might be something to look out for as well as extra difficulty, not too much harder though.

 

[MeaningDork]

Depends on how long it's been that cold. I would go out and try checking the ice with just stomping my feet on it. If it cracks and breaks, great, if it doesn't you'll need tools, you can make do with an axe even, chop a hole. Sometimes ice on a lake or such forms 2 layers of ice with air in between, so that might be something to look out for as well as extra difficulty, not too much harder though.

Minor issue: I need to jump the fence to do that. The fence leads directly to the river so if I jump on the ice and it happens to be thin then in a cruel twist of irony I would accidentally commit suicide.

 

[ManByTheRiver]

Minor issue: I need to jump the fence to do that. The fence leads directly to the river so if I jump on the ice and it happens to be thin then in a cruel twist of irony I would accidentally commit suicide.

That ice doesn't seem very sturdy, and rivers usually freeze less well because of the moving water. Some parts of the river i live next to don't freeze at all even if it gets closer to -40 degrees. You could try throwing a decent size rock on it, nothing huge, but fist size or bigger. Not a perfect solution but it will give you some idea.

 

[MeaningDork]

That ice doesn't seem very sturdy, and rivers usually freeze less well because of the moving water. Some parts of the river i live next to don't freeze at all even if it gets closer to -40 degrees. You could try throwing a decent size rock on it, nothing huge, but fist size or bigger. Not a perfect solution but it will give you some idea.

Thanks a million. I'll try it.

 

[UnoriginalUsername]

Show me a method that isn't uncomfortable

Jumping, the only discomfort is psychological and that's in every method

Anyway, drowning is still exceptionally agonising. But if it's the only means at one's disposal, there's no other choice.

 

[Gonnerr]

You clothes will become very wet and heavy , you will go down almost like a rock. I didn't test it but it makes sense.

Because people who survive ice bath do it in underwear for that very good reason.

 

[Raindancer]

Ideally 1-4 degrees celsius, that's about as cold as you'll ever find water. If you jump straight in you'll get a gasp reaction and it will be hard to breathe for a moment. You'll also lose strength faster because of the cold. In still water you can still last for a while, but moving water is ideal for a drowning/hypothermia related death.

I am a good swimmer, have been swimming since a baby, and I got knocked into very cold water and if a kayak hadn't been there I may have drowned. The cold shocked me so I couldn't breathe or swim. I have and am considering this method.

 

[pepe_felipe]

It's 9 degrees here now. If I jump in the lake at this temperature. How long will it take to die?

I don't mean to be counter-intuitive, however if you drown it would very uncomfortable BUT could be relatively quick.