It is humorous to say that suicidal people are weak

[sdansht]

Suicidal people are just ordinary people who are suicidal because they are going through rough circumstances. We are not weak people. Whenever someone says that people ctb becuase they are too weak to handle life it makes me laugh. People are naturally unempathetic, they have no idea what the other person is going through, and are quick to judge and label others as weak for wanting to ctb.

 

[iloverachel]

Yeah suicidal and depressed people are often called lazy or weak when people don't realize it takes incredible strength just to continue surviving when you don' want to exist.
People who call suicidal people weak have most likely never experienced the torment we feel

 

[sdansht]

Yeah suicidal and depressed people are often called lazy or weak when people don't realize it takes incredible strength just to continue surviving when you don' want to exist.
People who call suicidal people weak have most likely never experienced the torment we feel

Or probably they do, but they have to wear a mask of being strong and stoic for not being seen as weak themselves. Many people have it way easier in life than suicidal people so we can't expect them to understand others' problems and be empathetic.

 

[stargazingalone]

I hate it when I get called lazy or weak, because Im not. Ive had issues with depression and those downward spirals where you have zero energy to do anything, but still managed to get through.
"Healthy" people dont unterstand how much of an effect mental illness can have on your body and even psychical health, and it honestly pisses me off how people with no experience or qualifications are always the first people to call someone who is struggling lazy, especially since most of them wouldnt even last one depressive episode

 

[Not Today Satan]

I saw a quote a few years ago but I don't remember exactly how it goes so I'll just summarize it. People killing themselves can be compared to jumping out of a burning building and falling to your death instead of letting yourself burn to death. And only people who have actually felt the flames would truly understand.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I just think that our views on the value of life are different. If they think it's still worth fighting for- good on them. I hope it always seems worth it for them. For me- it's more logical than that. Why would a person struggle on and on and suffer when the end goal doesn't seem worth it? That seems the stupid thing to do to me!

In fact, if they are simply going on what other people have impressed upon them- that life has inherent value. That, so long as you work hard, things will work out, that everyone gets a happy end, that if things are bad now, they will absolutely get better- I'd say they were the weak and gullible ones to buy all that. If that's their experience though- that's something different. I'm not going to argue with that. Why would I? Their experience of life is unique to them, the same as mine is to me.

I guess I see it like a game of chess though, or anything else where you can 'resign'- even a job. If there truly is no way of winning. If you truly can't make things better for yourself in that situation- why is it 'weak' to quit? It's f*cking stupid to stay in a situation where all you do is suffer! What or whom are you doing it for at the end of the day? Fine if there is a grain of hope that sticking at it will actually improve the situation but I imagine most people who suicide don't think that's possible anymore and we're the ones who are going to have to put in the effort to make it possible.

Plus, I think people who mock suicidal people are likely narcissistic pieces of shit anyway. They're likely just trying to big themselves up on how strong they think they are. Whether they've considered suicide or not, they wouldn't do it. How could they deprive the world of such a valuable person as themselves? The world can have them as far as I'm concerned. They deserve one another. I'm thrilled at the thought of leaving a world with people like that in.

 

[FuneralCry]

I don't see any point and value in suffering in this meaningless existence anyway, in my case I view it as better to not exist no matter what, I really envy those who managed to end their own existence on their own terms. There's no weakness in having awareness of how truly pointless and undesirable existence is, for me suicide is the rational solution to prevent unnecessary suffering, I have no interest in being burdened with this existence for decades on end just to die slowly and painfully from old age.

 

[cosmic-freedom]

People are naturally unempathetic, they have no idea what the other person is going through, and are quick to judge and label others as weak for wanting to ctb.

Yes.Unempathy is the natural state.There are too many unempathetic people than people with empathy.We have very few studies on this from a brain study perspective.

 

[Hotsackage]

It is in fact the opposite

 

[Roadrunner]

Whenever I hear of someone who has successfully CTB, I have an overwhelming feeling of relief for them knowing their pain has finally ended. I also feel somewhat envious that they had the strength and courage to take the step I so badly want, but don't have the guts (for lack of a better word) to do. They have incredible strength and are anything but weak, imho!

 

[AprilsOrangeSpring]

Suicide is one of the bravest things someone could do, in my opinion. Also calling someone who is/was suffering weak is like really shitty. I don't understand the thought process of these people.

After my first attempt, I had friends tell me that I'm "weak". Their logic behind it was: "We care about you, and want to prevent another attempt." What BS. How anyone thinks that could be helpful is beyond me.

Calling suicidal people "weak" is such self-centred thinking. They don't "care". How could they say they care if they can't get out of their own head and even try to be slightly empathetic. That's weak.

 

[Roadrunner]

Suicide is one of the bravest things someone could do, in my opinion. Also calling someone who is/was suffering weak is like really shitty. I don't understand the thought process of these people.

After my first attempt, I had friends tell me that I'm "weak". Their logic behind it was: "We care about you, and want to prevent another attempt." What BS. How anyone thinks that could be helpful is beyond me.

Calling suicidal people "weak" is such self-centred thinking. They don't "care". How could they say they care if they can't get out of their own head and even try to be slightly empathetic. That's weak.

In your "friends" defense, i truly believe that anyone that hasn't felt the pain we do, are not able to understand or relate. Imho

 

[ieatcrayons]

I've had friends and family tell me to "just deal with it" or to just be happy or thankful for being alive. I find it impossible to explain how I feel to most people because I don't get depressed because of external reasons. One of my friends told me that "Everyone gets mini bouts of depression here and there but they still push through. They don't let it ruin their life." My life is hell because of my depression. Depression affects my ability to push through the hard times. Normal people can't relate to mental illness or the thought of holding less or no free will and therefore can't provide any empathy to it. They have the privilege of being able to trust the emotions they have and know that their thoughts are working in their best intentions, From my experience mental illness is like trying to live life while being high 24/7. It's honestly very impressive that some of us can still manage to stay productive and composed.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

I believe many people who have never been suicidal before don't understand that there's often a build up to feeling hopelessness. It isn't typically just one thing out of the blue that's caused someone to become suicidal, or even that we have some sort of weakened constitution inherently this way, but rather, I think there's a tipping point that one reaches after mountains of piled up failures and frustrations. There is an unrealistic dichotomy where struggling individuals get labeled as either weak, or "a fighter".

In reality, there are so many of us silently fighting and pushing onward until the pain becomes too much to bear and we feel as if there is no other choice but to throw in the towel. I've also been called weak many times or told I didn't try hard enough by people who objectively have been through a fraction of what I have, so they cannot relate to how it feels to be in an unwinnable situation that doesn't improve with time.

People have called me weak, lazy, and every other low brow insult in the book for being suicidal... Despite the fact that I have multiple disabilities, was abused and neglected growing up, went through a lot of sexual trauma, been in the mental health system since a very young age, have no family, and suffer from dehabilitating health conditions that will most likely be with me for my entire life. Yet those still aren't valid reasons to feel horrible or want to die according to the oppression Olympics proliferators.

Nothing is ever good enough to elicit compassion from such people, because they are completely blind to the struggles of spending years fighting for a decent life and will to live, then being deprived of it. It is the opposite of weakness.

 

[Malaria]

Yeah it hurts my feelings when people say that about suicidal people...

 

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

Just ignore other people´s lies. They will become suicidal with the passage of time.

 

[untothedepths]

it must be nice to be able to say those things, because it sounds like ignorance.

 

[emptymiku]

ppl forget that choosing to end your life even when youre in pain is one of the hardest things to do. it takes a tremendous amount of willpower to end it all