TheLastGreySky

TheLastGreySky

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Nov 24, 2023
352
Is or was anyone else a bad person. I used to be a real piece of crap, and I can't change that. I have tried to make amends, but none of my apologies have been accepted.
I honestly can't justify why I was the worthless person that I was other than that I've always wanted to die. I never planed to live past 18, and I woke up one day at 28 and had a nervous breakdown because I had done everything that I ever wanted to do and it had stopped filling the void years before and I had until that time in my life just went through the emotions. I was severely toxic and I was addicted to the rollercoaster of pleasure and drama and then one day... I couldn't hide it anymore. Everything that I ever wanted was in my arms, but it was no longer a crutch. My wife of 10 years (12 all together) had left my shortly after and I went on this stupid redemption mission, but she told me to kill myself. She was done and now every time I try to get visitation in court she just spits in my face. Outside of a life with my kids, I literally want nothing else. I was engaged to someone else, I went to prison, I was homeless in winter. If I was crucified it wouldn't be enough for my ex. And she's actively stalking me and mocking that I don't have her and my kids.

How do you live when nothing even feels real?
How do you make amends?
How do you move on?
To be honest, I joined this site to help me learn and try to see things from other peoples perspectives
While I wait for a backpay of 12 thousand dollars to be paid to me so I can leave it with my kids before I go.
I've been running on empty so long, I just want to stop existing.
 
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justcallmeJ

justcallmeJ

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Nov 9, 2023
401
Im sorry your life went into this direction, its hard to control sometimes. You are not alone.

I used to be a selfhating piece of crap who coped by being racist, homophobic, xenophobic etc. Instead of hating on myself I hated on others.
This was many years ago and eventually my mind no longer could handle the things i was doing. Although I still hate myself, I now fight against these things, and wish love and happiness to everyone. People can always change for the better, few are actually truly bad. Most of peoples bad sides comes from insecurity.

Maybe this quote can work for you?
"What is better: to be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?"
-Paarthurnax

I wish you the best <3
 
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Spiritual survivor

Spiritual survivor

A born again but occasionally suicidal
Feb 13, 2022
509
Not intentionally, but yea I think most people have done bad or immoral things even the ones u think have been saints. Some sin is less visible or not considered sin in our fallen world.
 
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hermestrimegistus

hermestrimegistus

Specialist
Sep 16, 2023
341
I am a terrible irredeemable unloveable piece of shit. Keeps me up at night. Makes me want to die. I am not a good person to say the least
 
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Desp

Member
Nov 27, 2023
36
I am an awful, useless person. I am a waste of space, resources, everything. This world would be a much better place if I had never been born.
 
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Ernest1964

Specialist
Jan 6, 2023
363
In my youth I had my moments, but since then I think overall the karmic dial has moved to the positive side. In other words, I think when I leave this planet, I will generally be leaving it better than when I arrived.
 
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Abyssal

Abyssal

Kill me
Nov 26, 2023
1,287
I will be a bad person when I ctb. I will hurt those that I love with my selfishness. I can't believe what I have become.
 
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King Ashoka

Member
Nov 19, 2023
74
I wonder how we end up this fucked up.
 
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SmollMushroom

SmollMushroom

send N pls
Sep 27, 2023
405
It really depends by your definition of bad...
Some people would argue that suicide makes one a bad person, and that's something I don't agree with.
I personally don't think I'm a bad person, I did some mistakes (who doesn't?) but I never ever acted to intentionally harm anyone, even when I was younger.
But maybe that's not enough to not be considered a bad person? Again, I think it really depends by your idea of a bad person.
 
deadtrace

deadtrace

Member
Aug 7, 2023
58
Yeah I've mainly said deplorable things to people and treated people like complete and utter shit in the past. Regardless of why it happened or how people have treated me I feel terrible about it and still think about it a lot. Even now I have outbursts and say horrible shit uncontrollably and it ruins friendships entirely.
 
RichardFirst

RichardFirst

Specialist
Jan 16, 2021
383
I've been arrogant throughout the years, and my actions have caused a lot of harm to a lot of people. I may never have intended to harm anyone, but it happened none the less, and I believe that that is enough to warrant punishment.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
8,881
Not sure I've been outright bad but I've certainly been self centred and selfish. Worst of all, the three people I've been the most selfish towards did more for me than anyone else and now- they're all dead- so I can't make amends. That's an important lesson in life I never learned- make time for the people you love.
 
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Dizzylady80

Dizzylady80

Experienced
Nov 5, 2020
227
I was a horrible person growing up, did lots of bad things. But tbh I was a kid for most of it and a really traumatized one at that, when I got older I tried to stop but the DID made things complicated, where my body would be doing the bad things while I was trapped inside begging to stop, then I'd repress the whole thing so I wouldn't remember it. Doesn't excuse what I did or mitigate the hurt. The best you can do is to make the right choices going forward, make amends where you can and if someone doesn't accept it then accept their lack of acceptance. Don't do it to make things easier on yourself tho, do it because it's the right thing to do
 
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perpetual_ennui

perpetual_ennui

Time heals nothing...
Aug 16, 2023
1
Done a lot of terrible things to people I really cared about in the past. Mostly just lashing out due to pain or anger, but I have unintentionally lost some very dear friendships due to me being a total fucking idiot and mistreating people through my own stupidity.
 
hi-okbye

hi-okbye

7.7.2023<3
May 5, 2023
656
i don't think anyone is truly bad. not really sure how to explain it more than that.
i'm really sorry for all you had to go through tho, hugs to you <3
 
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Spades

Spades

he/him
Jul 7, 2023
44
I'm much younger than you are and I've just barely reached adulthood this year, but I've ruined lives and I'm not exaggerating when I say that. I've been both the abused and the abuser, I hurt someone real bad when I was 12 and I continued to do so with others well into my early to mid teens.

It took me longer than it should have to realize how shitty I was, but by then it was already too late.

How do you live when nothing feels real? That's something I have yet to figure out myself, and I'm sure I never will given how I've been severely depressed and suicidal since before I was 10.

How do you make amends? You can't, at least not always. No one is owed forgiveness, that's something I had to learn the hard way. But I'd argue being forgiven by those you hurt isn't all that necessary to do better.

How do you move on? Your situation is a lot different than mine obviously, so I'm afraid what worked for me would likely not work for you. But do know that regret is something that will likely always hover over you to some extent, you just learn how to manage it so it doesn't fuck you over as much as it once did.

I've heard forgiving yourself is a vital step to moving on from people who have done far more heinous things than you or I, but I'm not sure if I personally can do that.

I'm sorry if you weren't looking for advice and your questions were just a part of your venting.

I don't know any better than you do and I hope this didn't come off that way, a lot of this advice was mostly for me I guess as I struggle greatly with guilt myself. It's a constant tug of war between yourself to live like this, but I'm sure you know that exhaustion more than I ever could.

Regardless, I hope you find peace within yourself one day, be it in life or in death. I'm sorry life has led you here, but I suppose it's better than being left alone in your thoughts, at least I hope so anyway.

Redemption isn't possible for everyone, but that's okay I think, so long as we never hurt anyone else again. What's done cannot be undone, all I can do is try and do better until I die and hope that at the end of my life, the bad things I've done will pale in comparison to the good I've managed.

I doubt it ever could, but I still feel compelled to try, even though I know it's irrational and ultimately just a vain attempt to make myself seem better than I actually am.
 
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offtoseethewizard

offtoseethewizard

Student
Aug 19, 2023
115
I was a piece of shit drug dealer when I was in my early 20s and I hate myself for it. I sold e's at clubs.

Whilst I hate myself for the indirect pain I inevitably caused other people through it, at the time I was so naive to the long term effects of the drug and genuinely thought I was selling something that improved peoples lives.

Now I have a broken brain and I hate to think how many other peoples brains turned out the same way.

I think in this case karma is very directly evident, as no one used more of the stuff than I did, because I was hopelessly addicted and always had unlimited amounts around. So I ended up doing the most damage to myself.

You do really stupid shit when you're young.
 
Daughter of Sorrow

Daughter of Sorrow

Member
Nov 1, 2023
41
How do you live when nothing even feels real?
How do you make amends?
How do you move on?
I consider myself a horrible person. I was in a war and someone died because of my fault. That's one of those things you can't take back, however hard you try. For a long time I felt like I didn't deserve to live. Forget not wanting to live, I felt I deserved to die. And it sucked, because everyone around me didn't want me to die. My family loved me. And one of the things that stopped me was watching a childhood friend's mom (we enlisted at the same time) just shake as they lowered his coffin into the ground and did the 21 gun salute.
Moving on and making amends isn't something you do, or a box that one checks. It's a process, a continuous process. I cannot bring that person back to life, but I can dedicate my life to helping others. It is my purpose. If I can brighten up someone's day, just for a moment, that's a victory. If I can show someone Christian Love and Charity, even if small, that is a victory, to me. You never move on completely, some days the past hits just as hard as if I were there. I lay in bed and think of all the things that I have done in my life and want to die of embarrassment for who I was and self-loathing. I try to learn from that, to be better tomorrow.

I hope this helps.
 
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TheLastGreySky

TheLastGreySky

Specialist
Nov 24, 2023
352
I am a terrible irredeemable unloveable piece of shit. Keeps me up at night. Makes me want to die. I am not a good person to say the least
I know this might not be what you want to hear (especially given what site we're on) But no one is unlovable. I have changed and when the time draws closer to ctb for me I'll post publicly about all the terrible things I've done. I can't redeem myself to those who matter. But, personally I think that's drastically different than being irredeemable. I'm sorry to say that all of my selfish and poor decisions in my life all amounted to me trying to feed a hunger in my youth that instead consumed me.
I realized much too late that my anhedonia is always going to be a part of me. If I knew then what I know now things would of been different.
But, in my ignorance I tried to feel the hole inside my soul with everyone and everything.
If, I had actually loved myself; I would of loved them better.

I know it might be confusing for me to mention both how selfish I was and how I didn't love myself in the same sentence, but they're drastically different.
I've made peace with my sins. I've forgiven myself in a sense... but this life is just... disgusting. An endless routine of working to life, and for what?
A studio apartment? I've had a two story house before and really, I can't really explain what is different between the two and being homeless (which I was as well)
Other than a bed. There's so much that I wanted to do, that I'm trying to do now, not because I think it'll prolong my life or amount to anything,
but because I want to leave with as little regret as possible. But geez... I honestly don't know how tf to write a note to my girlfriend. That's going to be a bitch.
I'm pretty sure "opps." Is not worth even the paper it's written on. Although, at least to me i'd be pretty funny. There's nothing anyone can say or do to stop us from destroying ourselves. What we've broken we have to fix. And well, I have tried for 3 years, and all I've done is upset "normal" people.
Anyway, I hate myself, 100% because of who I was, and I just hate my old self more than I love my new self. Honestly, only thing I've been remotely interested is in Mortal Kombat 1. Isn't that childish?
I do sort of REALLY want to burn my hands with battery acid but I don't know how to hide it and keep it from getting infected before this check drops.
I am an awful, useless person. I am a waste of space, resources, everything. This world would be a much better place if I had never been born.
Out of general curiosity , might I ask why? You can answer publicly or privately, if you want. I want to sort of learn what led others to this point. It's interesting.
In my youth I had my moments, but since then I think overall the karmic dial has moved to the positive side. In other words, I think when I leave this planet, I will generally be leaving it better than when I arrived.
I understand this. I believe in heaven, but for me it has nothing to do with purification, but more of I want to have the past me as unrecognizable as possible in my mind. I want to ctb, but I don't want the old me to ctb, I want to "end" the old me, before I leave this world. IF that makes sense lol.
I'm much younger than you are and I've just barely reached adulthood this year, but I've ruined lives and I'm not exaggerating when I say that. I've been both the abused and the abuser, I hurt someone real bad when I was 12 and I continued to do so with others well into my early to mid teens.

It took me longer than it should have to realize how shitty I was, but by then it was already too late.

How do you live when nothing feels real? That's something I have yet to figure out myself, and I'm sure I never will given how I've been severely depressed and suicidal since before I was 10.

How do you make amends? You can't, at least not always. No one is owed forgiveness, that's something I had to learn the hard way. But I'd argue being forgiven by those you hurt isn't all that necessary to do better.

How do you move on? Your situation is a lot different than mine obviously, so I'm afraid what worked for me would likely not work for you. But do know that regret is something that will likely always hover over you to some extent, you just learn how to manage it so it doesn't fuck you over as much as it once did.

I've heard forgiving yourself is a vital step to moving on from people who have done far more heinous things than you or I, but I'm not sure if I personally can do that.

I'm sorry if you weren't looking for advice and your questions were just a part of your venting.

I don't know any better than you do and I hope this didn't come off that way, a lot of this advice was mostly for me I guess as I struggle greatly with guilt myself. It's a constant tug of war between yourself to live like this, but I'm sure you know that exhaustion more than I ever could.

Regardless, I hope you find peace within yourself one day, be it in life or in death. I'm sorry life has led you here, but I suppose it's better than being left alone in your thoughts, at least I hope so anyway.

Redemption isn't possible for everyone, but that's okay I think, so long as we never hurt anyone else again. What's done cannot be undone, all I can do is try and do better until I die and hope that at the end of my life, the bad things I've done will pale in comparison to the good I've managed.

I doubt it ever could, but I still feel compelled to try, even though I know it's irrational and ultimately just a vain attempt to make myself seem better than I actually am.
I like your responses in a lot of ways I feel that discussion alone really helps with understanding.

Thank you to all the people who've replied (so far and to come) I'd love to talk with all of you tbh, you're all very interesting people with valid feelings and opinions.
Unfortunately, I can't reply to everyone while giving everyone the adequate attention and energy they deserve, but I'll read every comment.

I think life and death are philosophical topics that deserve to be explored without a filter.
Things like how can someone have an abortion and yet it's illegal if I try to ctb? This world is fucked up. And I think everyone deserves to form their own opinions and feel their emotions (or lack of) unadulterated. Despite what choices we make in regards to if they end their story or write a new chapter,
I just hope you all know that you're not alone. I could be Freddy Krueger turned Mrs. Rodgers, or a pseudo Jeffery Dahmer, or just a fucking generic carbon copy bastard son of a bastard son. It's the internet, so who knows?
But, that's for me to know and to reveal in time. If you can see the beauty in your pain than do so, or if you're just waiting for the last grey sky too,
We're all naked here in the lions den. And where we go or what we become we do so by choice. But, jsuk self ostracization isn't something I personally endorse.
If we're mud then we're mud. At least lets be as real as we can be in this fake world as long as we're in it.
 
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