BipolarGuy

BipolarGuy

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You have to send money to A BEFORE you receive the product. There is no escrow system.
A has been known to ghost people having been paid, or after people have contacted him saying they haven't received anything.
Furthermore, not everybody wants to drink a solution designed for injections - Yuk!

C sells it elsewhere, in powder form.
There is an escrow system, and so he doesn't receive payment until you receive the product.
BUT serious concerns are being raised about the purity of his product.
There are reviews on his own profile complaining about this, with one review claiming that the purity was only 50% !

There are other suppliers, for example on made-in-china.com, but that site has a very bad name regarding scams.
I contacted a supplier on there who said that the minimum order quantity is 25g for $1200 !
But I asked for a sample, which their profile says they offer, and I was offered 7g sample for $350.
I don't know if this is legitimate, but they are a business listed on that website.
I said that in business it's extremely rare to be asked to pay hundreds of dollars for a sample, but would they be willing to send me an invoice after I receive and test the product. They said NO, I must pay up front - my spidey senses are saying SCAM.

Everyone moans about the price of pentobarbital.
Quite right too!

But the real problem seems to be a lack of reliable suppliers, who supply a quality product.
 
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rt1989526

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Yes, this is why I've given up on the N dream and will have to use SN.
 
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The risk with buying a sample is that they could give you a high purity product and then when you buy the actual item, you get a watered down product.
 
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AlreadyGone

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I wish I could tell you there is. But that is why I am giving up on N and may have to go the hanging route.

You basically have 2 options to choose from for N and both options suck.
 
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Fedrea

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May 14, 2020
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You have to send money to A BEFORE you receive the product. There is no escrow system.
A has been known to ghost people having been paid, or after people have contacted him saying they haven't received anything.
Furthermore, not everybody wants to drink a solution designed for injections - Yuk!

C sells it elsewhere, in powder form.
There is an escrow system, and so he doesn't receive payment until you receive the product.
BUT serious concerns are being raised about the purity of his product.
There are reviews on his own profile complaining about this, with one review claiming that the purity was only 50% !

There are other suppliers, for example on made-in-china.com, but that site has a very bad name regarding scams.
I contacted a supplier on there who said that the minimum order quantity is 25g for $1200 !
But I asked for a sample, which their profile says they offer, and I was offered 7g sample for $350.
I don't know if this is legitimate, but they are a business listed on that website.
I said that in business it's extremely rare to be asked to pay hundreds of dollars for a sample, but would they be willing to send me an invoice after I receive and test the product. They said NO, I must pay up front - my spidey senses are saying SCAM.

Everyone moans about the price of pentobarbital.
Quite right too!

But the real problem seems to be a lack of reliable suppliers, who supply a quality product.
Yuuuuuppp
 
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Ulisses

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I gave up N because I couldn't find a reliable seller.
 
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The risk with buying a sample is that they could give you a high purity product and then when you buy the actual item, you get a watered down product.
There is this point of course. But when they're wanting $350 for 7g, which is close to the price of gold, for a SAMPLE, it does get your back up.
 
GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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I said that in business it's extremely rare to be asked to pay hundreds of dollars for a sample, but would they be willing to send me an invoice after I receive and test the product. They said NO, I must pay up front - my spidey senses are saying SCAM.

I don't get why this is surprising. They're drug dealers. Why would they trust you, a total stranger, to pay later, anymore than you should trust them?

Everyone who sells N is shady, and they don't have to be any other way, it's illegal activity, not regulated business.

For those of us who want it, it sucks. We have to either take risks or find another method. We can complain about unfairness all we want, but it's just one more thing in life that's victimizing and unfair. Shit, I live in Mexico and still can't get it. I've had to move on from it, because being pissed and frustrated about it didn't change anything, ya know? If you're upset, you're allowed to be, and I have compassion for it, but I think at some point your head is going to get tired of you banging it against immovable, uncaring walls.
 
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BipolarGuy

BipolarGuy

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I've split your post up, I hope you don't mind :)

I don't get why this is surprising. They're drug dealers. Why would they trust you, a total stranger, to pay later, anymore than you should trust them?

But they're not a drug dealer.
They're (apparently) a chemical supply/distribution company.

Everyone who sells N is shady, and they don't have to be any other way, it's illegal activity, not regulated business.

For those of us who want it, it sucks. We have to either take risks or find another method. We can complain about unfairness all we want, but it's just one more thing in life that's victimizing and unfair. Shit, I live in Mexico and still can't get it. I've had to move on from it, because being pissed and frustrated about it didn't change anything, ya know? If you're upset, you're allowed to be, and I have compassion for it, but I think at some point your head is going to get tired of you banging it against immovable, uncaring walls.

Yes you're right. I'm going to have to just accept that getting hold of a drug that is largely used for euthanasia isn't going to be easy.
I knew that already of course.
But it is frustrating that even people who are referenced by Exit are just shady drug dealers.

Anyway, SN seems like the next best thing.
 
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checkouttime

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Jul 15, 2020
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The problem we have here is the source is potentially supplying a product for a person to CTB.

Now you could say, well they sell heroin or whatever drug and someone could CTB using this. I just don't think its looked at the same way.

I mean supplying someone with heroin and they then die, you could get in serious trouble(did watch a program the other day and a dealer was up for a serious charge).

but if you supply a drug that is pretty much a nailed on drug for CTB and nothing else, could you not be on an attempted murder or worse charge. I don't actually know the answer, its just a thought on the matter!

you could also argue dealers sell heroin and know users could OD, and they don't care.which i would agree with. but knowingly selling something that someone is going to take to CTB may not be easy for alot of people.hence why its hard to find.
 
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Deafsn0w

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Sep 4, 2018
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Sadly it's always risky to buy N from unknown suppliers or drug dealers. I think it would be better if you can try make your own N at home. You can google, "how to make Nembutal at home" and you can find a recipe for it.

FYI, making N is very complicated at home unless you have a PhD degree in chemistry.
 
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checkouttime

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Sadly it's always risky to buy N from unknown suppliers or drug dealers. I think it would be better if you can try make your own N at home. You can google, "how to make Nembutal at home" and you can find a recipe for it.

FYI, making N is very complicated at home unless you have a PhD degree in chemistry.


If only!, I'd throw a nembutal party!!!!
 
OnlyTheWind

OnlyTheWind

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Aug 29, 2020
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As I may have alluded to before; C's product is likely being sourced from a third party and he has not disclosed this, which has led to this drama. What do you think would happen if he said - "Yeah, I get it from a supplier whose product is hit and miss"? This is about maintaining the potential for customers, and the emergent situation is something of a double edged sword for him. We need more options on the market for this substance. Whoever is producing illicit substances is bound to have access to equipment/ knowledge to produce the pure N we seek.
 
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AlreadyGone

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Taking it day by day
Jan 11, 2020
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Sadly it's always risky to buy N from unknown suppliers or drug dealers. I think it would be better if you can try make your own N at home. You can google, "how to make Nembutal at home" and you can find a recipe for it.

FYI, making N is very complicated at home unless you have a PhD degree in chemistry.

And the equipment necessary to make it
 
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Sadly it's always risky to buy N from unknown suppliers or drug dealers. I think it would be better if you can try make your own N at home. You can google, "how to make Nembutal at home" and you can find a recipe for it.

FYI, making N is very complicated at home unless you have a PhD degree in chemistry.
Not true I used to have 2008 or earlier version of the peaceful pill handbook and in it was a section called the peanut project where bunch of elderly participants created their own pentobarbital powder form. It had diagrams and everything and steps listed. I'm sure of this if my memory serves me right.
 
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nitroautnz

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I think everyone on this forum want N fo ctb, i will go for it instead of the exit bag because in the end will cost me the same amount, but N can be sized by the custom and create you issue.
 
BipolarGuy

BipolarGuy

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Aug 6, 2020
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@GoodPersonEffed I'm considering writing a letter of complaint about C.
What are the contact details for C's manager?

I'm also considering starting a petition on Change.org and making my local member of parliament aware of the difficulties we're having with C, what are your thoughts?

Maybe as a result of the complaint I will be sent a £10 voucher for Starbucks.
 
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Cherrypea

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So just buy 2 bottles from c then if it's naff quality you have the quantity to make up for it. It's not like you are saving for your pension or anything.
 
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So just buy 2 bottles from c then if it's naff quality you have the quantity to make up for it. It's not like you are saving for your pension or anything.

C sells powder.
 
BipolarGuy

BipolarGuy

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So just buy 2 packets of powder or bottles of powder or sachets of powder. That's missing the point really!
It doesn't work like that.

Let's say you get it tested and it says 50% purity.
You can't just mix two lots of 50% together to get 100%.

:D
 
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Deleted member 94

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It doesn't work like that.

Let's say you get it tested and it says 50% purity.
You can't just mix two lots of 50% together to get 100%.

:D
I think what the person is saying if you get 20g with 10g of pento then buy 40g instead and use full 40g which should have 20g of pento. This is just my interpretation.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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So just buy 2 packets of powder or bottles of powder or sachets of powder. That's missing the point really!

Hell yeah. If someone has $1500 to spend, just buy double. If c shipped to where I live, that would relieve any anxiety I had about purity.
 
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Deafsn0w

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I think what the person is saying if you get 20g with 10g of pento then buy 40g instead and use full 40g which should have 20g of pento. This is just my interpretation.
Doesn't it increase risk of vomiting?
 
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Deleted member 94

Wizard
Mar 24, 2018
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Sadly it's always risky to buy N from unknown suppliers or drug dealers. I think it would be better if you can try make your own N at home. You can google, "how to make Nembutal at home" and you can find a recipe for it.

FYI, making N is very complicated at home unless you have a PhD degree in chemistry.
Please see link for making all sorts of recreational drugs including N


recreational.drugs-professor.buzz.pdf
chemistry.mdma.ch › hiveboard › rhodium › pdf › archive

You don't need a PhD just make sure end product is real by having it tested at energy control
 
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checkouttime

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Not true I used to have 2008 or earlier version of the peaceful pill handbook and in it was a section called the peanut project where bunch of elderly participants created their own pentobarbital powder form. It had diagrams and everything and steps listed. I'm sure of this if my memory serves me right.

so does that still exist to be read? I remember seeing something ,where a group of exit members were making nembutal in a video, now you have mentioned that!
 
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Doesn't it increase risk of vomiting?
Yes if you aim for the full 20g but I was trying to explain what the previous poster was hinting at.

It's sad that c is cutting the stuff he is mostly likely trying to get more from his batch by dilution so he can sell to more customers. People looking for a high won't care about 50% purity only us who need it to be higher so we can ctb
 
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