Is there a list of things to do before suicide? (Legally, Medically, not like bucket list stuff)

[InezSerrano]

I guess organ donor stuff? Writing a will? Writing a suicide note? If you die from SN can they even use your organs? I found this list:

Delete porn folder.

Putting bank details where they can find it so they can get access after I'm declared dead.

Put family records and photos on an easy to access external hard drive.

Throw away anything related to sex or sexuality in some dumpster so they don't have to deal with that.

Leave my keys and maybe a note in an envelop for them to find in the morning.

I think I'll put my password book on my desk so they can access any of my accounts, though I don't see why they would need to.

I'm going to put a tarp underneath me just in case I'm not found for a few days.

I'm just going to shred all the papers I have, except class notes because it would take a week and official documents they might need.

Is there anything I'm not thinking of?

I've got some pet fish, but they'll be fine for a few days.

 

[Seiba]

No, there's no objective list of things you do have to do before leaving. You're going to be better at coming up with things over people who only know you marginally on a forum. A suicide note will help with grief, so having that on the bucket list is valuable since from the sounds of thing you care about your family. You can also do a delayed email to law enforcement so your body isn't rotting under the tarp for a few days.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Delete porn folder.

Throw away anything related to sex or sexuality in some dumpster so they don't have to deal with that.

Most of my entire To-Do-Before-CTB checklist is some variation of these two things.

 

[waitingforrest]

There isn't a exact list everyone follows as everyone is different. But if you want my input, think about how you want to be remembered, what will happen to your body/expenses, dealing with the grief that ctb might cause on others. Keeping those things in mind helps me at least.
For me, I plan to destroy every trace of my existence and then dissappear to ctb. I plan on going out as a missing person. I know that it will cause more grief and false hope,, but I accept that. But for someone who wants to be buried or such, their plans might be different.
Just do what feels right to you. Though easier said than done.

 

[Seiba]

There isn't a exact list everyone follows as everyone is different. But if you want my input, think about how you want to be remembered, what will happen to your body/expenses, dealing with the grief that ctb might cause on others. Keeping those things in mind helps me at least.
For me, I plan to destroy every trace of my existence and then dissappear to ctb. I plan on going out as a missing person. I know that it will cause more grief and false hope,, but I accept that. But for someone who wants to be buried or such, their plans might be different.
Just do what feels right to you. Though easier said than done.

Oh yeah, I forgot but this poster reminded by accident. You can look into getting your own urn and setting up a fund for cremation to have that stuff be easier on your family. I don't think they're going to let you organs be used if you kill yourself, regardless if the body can be used or not. A more informed poster might need to chime in on that.

Does the Donated Body Program ever refuse to accept a body?

Body donors must be free of infectious diseases such as HIV, AIDs, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C or Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease. Donor's body weight must be less than 250 lbs. If there has been a violent death, suicide or vital organs have been removed for transplant purposes, the body will be not be accepted. The UCLA Donated Body Program recommends that an alternative plan be put into place should the body not be accepted into the program at time of death. Local funeral providers can assist in pre-arranging for this possibility.

Can your organs be donated after you commit suicide?

Answer (1 of 7): It depends, on the method you use, where you die, and how long it is until you are found. You can only donate the ‘main organs’ if you are in a hospital and being kept alive with machines. You must either be pronounced brain dead, or your family must decide to withdraw care if t...

www.quora.com

"You can only donate the 'main organs' if you are in a hospital and being kept alive with machines. You must either be pronounced brain dead, or your family must decide to withdraw care if they decided your recovery would not be compatible with a quality of life.

The heart, lungs, kidneys, pancreas, liver, etc. must be kept 'perfused' with oxygenated blood. This can only happen in a hospital. Then the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) needs to have time to make matches of recipients and get them prepared for the transplant. This usually takes 1–2 days.

So to donate those organs you will have had to injure yourself in a way that would not destroy those organs, and be found, and able to be kept alive long enough to reach a hospital and be stabilized, yet not so long that you begin to get septic or have your organs go into failure."

The former is ULCA's policy on donated bodies. The latter is about just donating organs. SN messes with oxygen as do all methods that kill you -- obviously to some extent. Unless you're kept alive somewhat passing away in a hospital your organs will not be usable.

 

[InezSerrano]

Oh yeah, I forgot but this poster reminded by accident. You can look into getting your own urn and setting up a fund for cremation to have that stuff be easier on your family. I don't think they're going to let you organs be used if you kill yourself, regardless if the body can be used or not. A more informed poster might need to chime in on that.

Does the Donated Body Program ever refuse to accept a body?

Body donors must be free of infectious diseases such as HIV, AIDs, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C or Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease. Donor's body weight must be less than 250 lbs. If there has been a violent death, suicide or vital organs have been removed for transplant purposes, the body will be not be accepted. The UCLA Donated Body Program recommends that an alternative plan be put into place should the body not be accepted into the program at time of death. Local funeral providers can assist in pre-arranging for this possibility.

Can your organs be donated after you commit suicide?

Answer (1 of 7): It depends, on the method you use, where you die, and how long it is until you are found. You can only donate the ‘main organs’ if you are in a hospital and being kept alive with machines. You must either be pronounced brain dead, or your family must decide to withdraw care if t...

www.quora.com

"You can only donate the 'main organs' if you are in a hospital and being kept alive with machines. You must either be pronounced brain dead, or your family must decide to withdraw care if they decided your recovery would not be compatible with a quality of life.

The heart, lungs, kidneys, pancreas, liver, etc. must be kept 'perfused' with oxygenated blood. This can only happen in a hospital. Then the OPO (Organ Procurement Organization) needs to have time to make matches of recipients and get them prepared for the transplant. This usually takes 1–2 days.

So to donate those organs you will have had to injure yourself in a way that would not destroy those organs, and be found, and able to be kept alive long enough to reach a hospital and be stabilized, yet not so long that you begin to get septic or have your organs go into failure."

The former is ULCA's policy on donated bodies. The latter is about just donating organs. SN messes with oxygen as do all methods that kill you -- obviously to some extent. Unless you're kept alive somewhat passing away in a hospital your organs will not be usable.

So they don't accept suicide bodies?

 

[Pen>Sword]

Encrypt your hard drive or SSD using Veracrypt. Simply deleting isn't enough. It's easily recoverable. If you really want a fool proof plan, then smash it for good.

 

[InezSerrano]

Encrypt your hard drive or SSD using Veracrypt. Simply deleting isn't enough. It's easily recoverable. If you really want a fool proof plan, then smash it for good.

I have an encrypted LVM volume. My archives are not encrypted. I plan to curate those, that's something I need to go over. I may decided I want nothing saved and then I will destroy them.

 

[_Seeking]

Is anyone writing their obituary? My grandfather wrote his in the last weeks of his life dying from cancer, I always thought that was a good idea. I want to write mine, though once I'm dead I think my family will write a bunch of BS and hide the suicide. I want people to know the truth about what America's war on opiates is doing to chronic pain patients, but what I want never meant a lot to them.

 

[InezSerrano]

Is anyone writing their obituary? My grandfather wrote his in the last weeks of his life dying from cancer, I always thought that was a good idea. I want to write mine, though once I'm dead I think my family will write a bunch of BS and hide the suicide. I want people to know the truth about what America's war on opiates is doing to chronic pain patients, but what I want never meant a lot to them.

Hoe do obituaries work?

 

[Ethereal Knight]

wiping out my computer's data is the biggest thing I have to do. other than that, everything is secondary.

the second biggest thing is deciding wether I'm gonna divulge / publish my personal photography collection or not.
I don't think anyone would wanna see personal photos, besides my daughter.
if I decide to publish them, I may choose wordpress / blogspot, as I don't consider facebook / istagram reliable. I know they delete dead people's profile if their family asks them to do that. they may delete if for other reasons too.

a colleague of mine who CTB disappeared from facebook. I would go to his profile from time to time to see his photos and posts, but never though about saving any photo. now it's gone. deleted.

I also don't want to overthink about photos, because they will be completely forgotten anyway in probably less than 60 years (one generation). I'm just one more person, amongst many. the earth will take its natural route and things will change as they always do.

sometimes photography can only bring melancholy, sadness and pain, anyway.

on sex toys: I wouldn't mind if they found the ones I have.
sexuality should stop being a taboo subject in the future anyways. it may still be in our time, but that hopefully will change. it has to. making it taboo doesn't help anybody in any way.

I want people to know the truth about what America's war on opiates is doing to chronic pain patients

wow. I didn't know that. are they over-restricting access to opiates?

 

[StarryStarry]

In the U.S. make sure you have a will - can just be written out and a DNR = that's really important.

 

[myopybyproxy]

wow. I didn't know that. are they over-restricting access to opiates?

afaik @InezSerrano suicide automatically disqualifies one from being an organ donor.

they gave them out like candy last century (1880s-1910s even to infants as a colic remedy), and now due to backlash for that are making it nigh impossible for those who are in pain to get a script. just pop a paracetamol and you'll be good as new in no time! too bad if your pain is chronic - have fun navigating the overpriced and unregulated black market fraught with scams and unknown amounts of fentanyl in an attempt to self medicate and make your life liveable - and when your doctors find out they label you drug seeking and refuse to help you in the slightest.

drugs have always existed and making them illegal doesn't fix anything - just look at what happened during prohibition. portugal, switzerland, denmark, the netherlands - no country is perfect but they are doing something right when it comes to opiate addiction.

 

[Ethereal Knight]

drugs have always existed and making them illegal doesn't fix anything

even if it fixed, still woldn't justify banning it, as each person has the right to put anything they want in their bodies, and this is no one else's business.
"my body, my choice."

 

[myopybyproxy]

even if it fixed, still woldn't justify banning it, as each person has the right to put anything they want in their bodies, and this is no one else's business.
"my body, my choice."

yep. but now bodily autonomy is only acceptable when it results in profit for or furthers an agenda of some higher-up. you may have your bodily autonomy as long as you're a dutiful cog in the system, (re)producing and consuming and nodding along to all their propaganda. as soon as you step out of line and begin questioning, you're labelled as mentally ill, oppositional defiant, borderline, paranoid, delusional - and once that label adheres, it follows you to the grave. nothing you say will be taken seriously - it's just your illness talking, duh - and your body is no longer your own to make choices about.

 

[davidgeorge]

A list is a good idea, for those of us who are list makers. Maybe the community should build a list and then people can make their own decisions.

Having arranged a funeral I would have liked to have known which photos to use, which hymns to sing and especially the music to play. Sounds odd but it would have given me comfort to know that stuff as it's hard trying to work out what the deceased would have wanted, let alone the big stuff like burial or cremation. I feel sorry for anyone else who has to organise a funeral; it's hard, it takes time, it's thankless