Method Is SN completely painless?

[boywhowasneverloved]

I have came across some videos and threads which suggest that it could lead to a very unpleasant death.

 

[ScaredOfMachines]

No method is completely painless. SN is not considered to be a very painful method by itself, and there are medicines that can help make it more an even more comfortable one. I think that most of the unpleasant side effects also kick in after you lose consciousness as well.

 

[L'absent]

Look, the whole topic of suicide with sodium nitrite is pretty complicated. What we can say is that, even though there's some information on the toxicity of this substance and what it does to the body, we don't have enough complete and rigorous scientific data to give a precise and certain answer on how it works exactly in a suicide. We know that sodium nitrite causes methemoglobinemia, which blocks the transport of oxygen in the blood, leading to suffocation and difficulty breathing, but the exact details of what happens in the body in this context are still unclear. Many of the existing studies rely more on testimonies or case reports, but scientifically speaking, these testimonies count for very little because they are not verifiable, replicable data. Basically, the available information gives us a rough idea, but there aren't enough autopsy studies or toxicological analyses to explain everything definitively. So, as of today, we can't give a rigorous scientific answer on how all this really works. If you want to know more, it would be best to talk to experts in toxicology or forensic medicine, who might have access to more complete cases or more detailed studies.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Not completely but it's a method that causes a lot less pain than other suicide methods out there that the average person can access. Of course N and using the sacro pod are two methods which are more painless than SN but we won't ever be able to access these things due to pro lifers wanting us to suffer in existence for as long as possible meaning that we need to rely on the next best thing which is SN.

 

[death_bed221]

I have came across some videos and threads which suggest that it could lead to a very unpleasant death.

Its probably unpleasant. U are dying after all. But most reports say its not painful. There are worse ways to go

 

[Corvette90]

I am fascinated by this method currently. I'm also curious as to who initially came up with this method. Sounds like it has just become popular the last five years. I have heard of clever people poisoning themselves with other chemicals but science is not my strong suit, also access can be difficult. I like the fact you just have to measure and then just mix in water , seems simple enough. I don't have access to the PPeH but it may be mentioned in there? I'm in England,UK and only heard about this mysterious salt being used to ctb recently. Just found out what it is and also that there has been a huge lawsuit/criminal case ongoing. Obviously it is very sad that young people impulsively used this method and sounds like quite a few changed their minds after ingesting it. This is obviously a tragedy for those families but now I'm a bit frustrated as I have no clue how I'm going to get my hands on this salt. There are many reasons I like this method only down side I feel is the potential diarrhoea ( sorry tmi, but I have issues with my digestive system). Like others have said no method of dying would be completely pain-free but I think that's why people recommend taking pain relief meds in conjunction with antiemetics etc. Everyone's body is different but this method does sound pretty lethal and I like that it can be done in a private space.

 

[idelttoilfsadness21]

Look, the whole topic of suicide with sodium nitrite is pretty complicated. What we can say is that, even though there's some information on the toxicity of this substance and what it does to the body, we don't have enough complete and rigorous scientific data to give a precise and certain answer on how it works exactly in a suicide. We know that sodium nitrite causes methemoglobinemia, which blocks the transport of oxygen in the blood, leading to suffocation and difficulty breathing, but the exact details of what happens in the body in this context are still unclear. Many of the existing studies rely more on testimonies or case reports, but scientifically speaking, these testimonies count for very little because they are not verifiable, replicable data. Basically, the available information gives us a rough idea, but there aren't enough autopsy studies or toxicological analyses to explain everything definitively. So, as of today, we can't give a rigorous scientific answer on how all this really works. If you want to know more, it would be best to talk to experts in toxicology or forensic medicine, who might have access to more complete cases or more detailed studies.

Seems good for my heart condition which always is beating fast or too slowly and makes me delirious from the inside out

 

[human909]

I don't know much about SN but i am pretty sure that it is painless and not painful at all if you do it correctly.

 

[CogitoMori]

We know that sodium nitrite causes methemoglobinemia, which blocks the transport of oxygen in the blood, leading to suffocation and difficulty breathing, but the exact details of what happens in the body in this context are still unclear. Many of the existing studies rely more on testimonies or case reports, but scientifically speaking, these testimonies count for very little because they are not verifiable, replicable data.

Scientists need to get batshit again and start recording their deaths after exposure to chemicals

 

[orbwithinorb]

I've read enough reports of it not being painless for me to stay away from this one.

 

[tbh2023]

Look, the whole topic of suicide with sodium nitrite is pretty complicated. What we can say is that, even though there's some information on the toxicity of this substance and what it does to the body, we don't have enough complete and rigorous scientific data to give a precise and certain answer on how it works exactly in a suicide. We know that sodium nitrite causes methemoglobinemia, which blocks the transport of oxygen in the blood, leading to suffocation and difficulty breathing, but the exact details of what happens in the body in this context are still unclear. Many of the existing studies rely more on testimonies or case reports, but scientifically speaking, these testimonies count for very little because they are not verifiable, replicable data. Basically, the available information gives us a rough idea, but there aren't enough autopsy studies or toxicological analyses to explain everything definitively. So, as of today, we can't give a rigorous scientific answer on how all this really works. If you want to know more, it would be best to talk to experts in toxicology or forensic medicine, who might have access to more complete cases or more detailed studies.

Well said!

 

[TheHolySword]

It's generally more about discomfort than pain for SN. But everyone's experience is difference. There is probably some amount of pain, vomiting may be the most painful thing about it though in most cases. Most methods aren't painless, and the ones that are, are easy to not do right and have much worse consequences for failure.

 

[Endofpain]

It doesn't have to be. I have seen people on here talk about propofol anestesia and benzos for a painless exit with NaNO2.

I wonder why NOBODY is talking about Diethylether. It is largely unregulated, reliefs anxiety, is euphoric and is easy to get. It is famous for its use until the 60s. Its use was only discontinued due to flammability hazards.
Ethers therapeutic index is favourable, it is superior to chloroform.

There are historic accounts on its use on terminally ill tuberculosis patients. They sounds similar to the effects of NaNO2.

 

[theshund]

I'm still convinced sleeping pills are the best thing with SN rather than sedatives. There's a risk of vomitting so you need to lie sideways and put something solid at your back to avoid choking. Time it right and you'll be asleep for the associated discomfort. And if you wake up and find you vomitted, try again another time and switch up your anti emmetics programme.

 

[alltoomuch2]

It doesn't have to be. I have seen people on here talk about propofol anestesia and benzos for a painless exit with NaNO2.

I wonder why NOBODY is talking about Diethylether. It is largely unregulated, reliefs anxiety, is euphoric and is easy to get. It is famous for its use until the 60s. Its use was only discontinued due to flammability hazards.
Ethers therapeutic index is favourable, it is superior to chloroform.

There are historic accounts on its use on terminally ill tuberculosis patients. They sounds similar to the effects of NaNO2.

Ether is quite irritant to the airway so you'd probably cough a lot and have a burning sensation in your airways. It also stinks. How is it easy to get? I don't think it's easy to get in the UK.

I'm still convinced sleeping pills are the best thing with SN rather than sedatives. There's a risk of vomitting so you need to lie sideways and put something solid at your back to avoid choking. Time it right and you'll be asleep for the associated discomfort. And if you wake up and find you vomitted, try again another time and switch up your anti emmetics programme.

Do you mean diphenhydramine (Nytol).?

 

[theshund]

Ether is quite irritant to the airway so you'd probably cough a lot and have a burning sensation in your airways. It also stinks. How is it easy to get? I don't think it's easy to get in the UK.

Do you mean diphenhydramine (Nytol).?

God no! Not nytol. You want a prescription sleeping pill. It's not hard to get. Just tell the doc you have really bad insomnia.

Something like Zopiclone will work well if you triple dose.

 

[Endofpain]

Ether is quite irritant to the airway so you'd probably cough a lot and have a burning sensation in your airways. It also stinks. How is it easy to get? I don't think it's easy to get in the UK.

Do you mean diphenhydramine (Nytol).?l

Diethylether is effective. You won't feel any burning sensation after a few seconds. It is also super available. (Even sold on "common sites".)
You won't feel pain, you won't be anxious and you won't care about a single thing in the world. I have tried it on its own.
I don't have experience with other drugs, but Et2O took out all SI.
If I will have to resort to SN, I wouldn't go without it

 

[axab43]

I've read enough reports of it not being painless for me to stay away from this one.

In the handbook quoted on here, they said they had done various observations of people taking SN and came to the conclusion it was fairly painless. I think it is listed on this forum somewhere.

 

[Odwin]

So, you know, every death that isn't a shotty to the temple is painful in its own way.

Take, for example, executions by lethal injection. Before they administer the deadly dose, they give you two other injections: one to relax you and another to numb the pain.

And from what i understand it is still painful.

 

[cait_sith]

Diethylether is effective. You won't feel any burning sensation after a few seconds. It is also super available. (Even sold on "common sites".)
You won't feel pain, you won't be anxious and you won't care about a single thing in the world. I have tried it on its own.
I don't have experience with other drugs, but Et2O took out all SI.
If I will have to resort to SN, I wouldn't go without it

Very interesting, I found places to buy this stuff. Do you just put some of it on a cloth and huff it or how do you get the effects? Would you do it before taking the sn or after? How long are the effects, you need about 20 minutes for getting unconscious after taking the sn but there have been reports going to 40 minutes.

 

[Endofpain]

Very interesting, I found places to buy this stuff. Do you just put some of it on a cloth and huff it or how do you get the effects? Would you do it before taking the sn or after? How long are the effects, you need about 20 minutes for getting unconscious after taking the sn but there have been reports going to 40 minutes.

The variation in time betwern SN cases concerns me too. I can already see me laying there, waiting for it to take me out.
With ether, I tried it by inhalation through a rag as you described.
However, ether lasts only for a few min when inhaled (unconscious).
For my ctb I plan to put a soaked rag into a empty bottle and inhale it from
there. This way I can redose and keep me sedated without needing to drip more on some rag...

I would start with ether, taking out any SI and keep me sedated by inhaling more.

 

[cait_sith]

The variation in time betwern SN cases concerns me too. I can already see me laying there, waiting for it to take me out.
With ether, I tried it by inhalation through a rag as you described.
However, ether lasts only for a few min when inhaled (unconscious).
For my ctb I plan to put a soaked rag into a empty bottle and inhale it from
there. This way I can redose and keep me sedated without needing to drip more on some rag...

I would start with ether, taking out any SI and keep me sedated by inhaling more.

I see the short duration as a big problem. If you have to continually huff something to not panic you might panic in between the huffs so it can't really replace Benzos. Maybe ether works better for things like full suspension where you only need a short time, I will try it out.

 

[Endofpain]

I see the short duration as a big problem. If you have to continually huff something to not panic you might panic in between the huffs so it can't really replace Benzos. Maybe ether works better for things like full suspension where you only need a short time, I will try it out.

Sedation is not immediately gone after that time. But you are right, you have to huff to keep your dose up as most of it is exhaled unchanged once it is in your bloodstream.

 

[LinxLunar]

Hey, so last year I wanted to CTB with SN but since I'm a "scientific" type shit, I wanted to know which effect I could have if I didn't died. So I took a third of the dose I should have taken to die just to "try" if we can say so (I was seeking attention too but yeah). So I can write my story and all the effect if y'all are interested.

 

[be or not to be]

Hey, so last year I wanted to CTB with SN but since I'm a "scientific" type shit, I wanted to know which effect I could have if I didn't died. So I took a third of the dose I should have taken to die just to "try" if we can say so (I was seeking attention too but yeah). So I can write my story and all the effect if y'all are interested.

Please, tell us more

 

[LinxLunar]

Please, tell us more

I will make a complete thread about it. It may interest a lot of people.